A Lesson in Bad Menu Design

Dear game developers,  
  
In the future, please consider that a game system, one like the Nintendo DS, may be picked up by 4 year olds.  Note that when you design a game, that it may come into the hands of a 4 year old.  As such, in your saved game selection screen, it is typically not advisable to have the "Delete game button" look like the button you click to select that game.   After all, for a child who cannot yet read, they may not realize that they are, in fact, deleting their dad's level 48 Puzzle Quest 2 character.   
  
thank you for your time, 
Sincerely, 
Joobz 
 
PS. I have absolutely no desire to actually finish the game nor purchase any other game from the same game developer.

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Posted by joobz

Dear game developers,  
  
In the future, please consider that a game system, one like the Nintendo DS, may be picked up by 4 year olds.  Note that when you design a game, that it may come into the hands of a 4 year old.  As such, in your saved game selection screen, it is typically not advisable to have the "Delete game button" look like the button you click to select that game.   After all, for a child who cannot yet read, they may not realize that they are, in fact, deleting their dad's level 48 Puzzle Quest 2 character.   
  
thank you for your time, 
Sincerely, 
Joobz 
 
PS. I have absolutely no desire to actually finish the game nor purchase any other game from the same game developer.

Posted by natetodamax

Not the developer's fault for you not paying attention to your child!

Posted by captain_awesome
@natetodamax: I guess you never experienced someone deleting your save game? A save game in which you have put in hours DAYS of your precious life and if someone deletes that file.... A piece of your soul dies with it.
Posted by HellBrendy

Got to agree with natetodamax here, allthough I like your way of crying over a lost savefile in a new way.  
 
Also, why would a four year old play on a Nintendo DS? 

Posted by natetodamax
@captain_awesome: That's not something to blame the developers for. That would be like me buying a Ford vehicle, then getting mad at Ford when my friend crashes it into a tree.
Posted by joobz
@natetodamax: If ford put a "Crash car into a tree" button right next to the ignition, one may start to think it's the manufacturer's fault. 
Posted by BeachThunder

Well, have any of you guys played the game? I haven't. Perhaps it really is designed poorly.

Posted by joobz
@HellBrendy: I'm training the next generation of gamer. :)
Posted by StarFoxA
@natetodamax said:
" Not the developer's fault for you not paying attention to your child! "
Have you ever dealt with a child? They're slippery! One moment they're right in front of you, and the next they're off deleting your save files.
Posted by ZanzibarBreeze
@natetodamax said:
" @captain_awesome: That's not something to blame the developers for. That would be like me buying a Ford vehicle, then getting mad at Ford when my friend crashes it into a tree. "
At this point, I was like "BOOM"
 
@joobz said:
" @natetodamax: If ford put a "Crash car into a tree" button right next to the ignition, one may start to think it's the manufacturer's fault.  "

Alas, at this point, it was
 

BOOM

Posted by ZeroCast

Why leave your DS in a situation were your 4 year old son can play with it in the first place?

Edited by captain_awesome

You guys are underestimating 4 year olds their save file deleting ability. When I was 7 years old I finished zelda oot at the time it was the greatest thing that ever happened to me... AND THEN my little brother of 4 tried to copy my file so he could play as adult link the problem is.. He couldn't do Shit and so of course he deleted my file I was not ... very happy And it is something I will never forget or forgive him about

Posted by supermike6

What the hell is wrong with four year olds playing a DS? Are you all crazy? Everyone plays games at 4! 
 
Anyways, I feel bad for you OP. 

Posted by joobz
@StarFoxA: among other things..
@ZeroCast: I never thought I'd need a gun case for a DS.
Posted by joobz
@supermike6: Thanks!  It's ok.  It's funny in retrospect.  But I am serious, It really is a stupid interface design flaw.
Posted by ZeroCast
@joobz said:
" @ZeroCast: I never thought I'd need a gun case for a DS. "
 
I never said that or implied it, sir. All I am saying is, if you leave your DS laying around and open then you're asking for trouble from a kid who doesn't really know how a DS functions.
Edited by schizogony

joobz, I will cry for you tonight.  What has happened to you should happen to no man.  I'm so sorry for your loss. 

Posted by SethPhotopoulos
@natetodamax said:
" Not the developer's fault for you not paying attention to your child! "
Got a point. 
 
Sucks man.  You'll feel better in a few weeks.
Posted by wolf_blitzer85

In the end, your kid learned the function of the delete save game button.
 
Gotta start somewhere.

Posted by joobz
@ZeroCast: I was just kidding.  But, I didn't leave it out and open.  He had grabbed it off the dresser, turned it on and got into the game. the DS interface is intuitive.  The Puzzle quest one isn't. 
Edited by Brodehouse

If you liked a game enough to play it that much, I don't think the developer is concerned you'll forgo their future games because a saved game got deleted.  It would be like playing Dragon Age for 70 hours, loving it, losing your save game, and then not buying Dragon Age II.  Nonsensical.
 
Devs have a hard enough time developing games for people who can't figure out how buttons works, you're really putting the screws to them if they have to design for people who can't read.

Posted by joobz
@Brodehouse: You make a very good point and I see exactly why you say that.  I wasn't very clear when I mentioned my lack of desire for future games.  My interest in the game was wanning as I played.  It was only my completionist side that kept me moving forward.  When the game was deleted, my interest went with it.  The reason for not playing future games was a combination of both the inability to maintain the game play interest throughout the whole game AND the poor interface.   But, your point is very well taken.
Posted by Azango
@HellBrendy said:
" Got to agree with natetodamax here, allthough I like your way of crying over a lost savefile in a new way.   Also, why would a four year old play on a Nintendo DS?  "
This person has never lived with young children around video games. I have had the same problems as the OP when my siblings were only 3.
Posted by Manhattan_Project
@Azango said:
" @HellBrendy said:
" Got to agree with natetodamax here, allthough I like your way of crying over a lost savefile in a new way.   Also, why would a four year old play on a Nintendo DS?  "
This person has never lived with young children around video games. I have had the same problems as the OP when my siblings were only 3. "
I have and I agree with him. If they are younger than 6 years old, they aren't getting near my save file. They can play some Mario.
Posted by themangalist
@captain_awesome said:
" @natetodamax: I guess you never experienced someone deleting your save game? A save game in which you have put in hours DAYS of your precious life and if someone deletes that file.... A piece of your soul dies with it. "
that's why gamers are stereotyped as loners... 
 
they don't want anyone to touch their saves.
Posted by hedfone
@natetodamax said:
" Not the developer's fault for you not paying attention to your child! "
snap!