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MooseyMcMan

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My ludicrous theory on The Phantom Pain.

Let me start this off by saying that I acknowledge that the chances of this theory being true are probably pretty slim. But, I haven't seen anyone else say this yet (not to say that no one else has, I haven't checked the entire internet). Thus, I thought I'd write this out as a blog on the very slim chance that any of this theory ends up being true.

Also, spoilers for the MGS games. The only reason I say this is because I know a very specific user here who hasn't played MGS4 yet, despite my telling him to for YEARS, but that's his problem. He'll beat it eventually.

Anyway, my theory is that the one armed guy seen in The Phantom Pain trailer is not Big Boss like most people think, it is in fact Major Zero. Yes, Major Zero from MGS3.

My first two pieces of evidence for this come from my secondary theory that what is seen in the trailer is in the United Kingdom. Why, you ask? Well, there's a UK flag in the hospital room.

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Second, the vehicle seen briefly that the one armed man and bandage face are in has the steering wheel on the right side of it.

Now, obviously a flag and a right steering wheel car are not definite signs that the game is in the UK. But, the various theories about the game have thus far placed the location somewhere in Latin America, or the Caribbean. Costa Rica is the leading candidate, due to the whale tail in the Moby Dick Studio logo looking similar to a piece of land in Costa Rica. BUT, people drive on the right side of the street in Costa Rica, meaning that the cars there are left side steering wheel cars.

Now, I of course realize that there are many other places in Latin America/Caribbean other than Costa Rica such as Cuba, where Ground Zeroes (at least partially) takes place. And there are many nations in the Caribbean that were once British colonies, and do in fact drive on the left side of the street. But based on what I know about the Caribbean, Cuba is the only place with decent hospitals, and they drive on the right hand side in Cuba.

I know what you're thinking, "Moosey, you've really lost it this time." No, sir, I haven't! Remember in the Ground Zeroes trailer when it said that, "From FOX, two phantoms were born"? Okay, my theory is that Ground Zeroes is the story of one of those phantoms (Big Boss), and Phantom Pain is the other phantom, Major Zero. Those who played MGS4 already know a fair amount about the split between those two, and we've seen a fair amount of Big Boss's post MGS3 adventures in Portable Ops and Peace Walker. But we haven't seen anything from Major Zero.

Oh, and the part of my theory that is pure speculation on my part is that I think the soldiers shooting up the hospital are working for Big Boss. Why? Why not? Like I said, speculation.

Of course, the counter arguments to this theory are many. Such as the dude looking a lot like the various Snakes in the series, Zero having his left arm at the end of MGS4 (though, so did Big Boss). But like I said, I think the chances of this being true are slim. I just wanted to throw another theory out there to see what others think of it. Either way, Kojima's got me again, and I am very excited to see more of this game in the coming months, and I hope they really go into the one-armed stuff, and make that a central mechanic.

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detective GAF needs to be applied to world's biggest mysteries. we will have answers!

my theory is Ground Zero and The Phantom Pain are episodes that make up MGS V (yes, V, NOT '5'). episodic, a la Tell Tale. and each episode is you playing a different FOX/XOF member in a distinctively different gaming environment (GZ being open-world sneaky sneaky, PP being military horror) based in a different part of the real world (Cyprus in PP, Cuba in GZ, for example), where you traverse or arrive at the next episode via any mode of transport shown in the extended footage of PP. specifically, there will be lots of mirroring/dualities between the playable characters/episodes, with the major one being Big Boss and Gene (Viper), and their big falling-out ("from FOX, two phantoms were born").

'V has come to/come, too' said by some slavic lady at the end of the PP trailer could be referring to Gene (Viper) or Volgin, or, yet another 'V' playable character in one of the episodes.

i don't think anyone's mentioned this on GAF, either, but the 'taboo' subject of Project Ogre (Joakim mOGREn) could well be child soldiers, of whom we see a lot of in the GZ trailer. the Japanese fairy tale (The Ogre of Rashomon) is about five warriors, where one is goaded into going out at night during a storm (GZ trailer) and seeing if the terrible ogre truly exists. this guy ends up meeting this ogre, and in trying to get away/kill it, chops off the ogre's arm. he keeps it in a locked box. the ogre comes back one day, disguised as his old nursemaid ('trojan horse' mentioned in the GZ trailer by scarred face), to take it back. ogre succeeds in taking the arm back, runs away, and is never seen again.

to me, the GZ trailer and PP trailer has the same graphic assets. so much so that GZ and PP could almost be happening nearly at the same time. just from different vantage points.

moreover:

(from wikipedia, keeping in mind the, "am i in a dream?" "am i in hell?" "open your eyes" monologue of the PP trailer and Kojima's love of movies)

"The Rashomon effect is the effect of the subjectivity of perception on recollection, by which observers of an event are able to produce substantially different but equally plausible accounts of it. A useful demonstration of this principle in scientific understanding can be found in an article by that name authored by Karl G. Heider.

It is named for Akira Kurosawa's film Rashomon, in which a crime witnessed by four individuals is described in four mutually contradictory ways. The film is based on two short stories by Ryūnosuke Akutagawa, "Rashōmon" (for the setting) and "Yabu no naka", otherwise known as "In a Grove" (for the story line)."

WHERE IS MY DETECTIVE GAF BADGE??

ive also got this feeling that maybe the Joakim Mogren nonsense may be more than viral marketing, like, maybe it's an in-game character who owns this Moby Dick Studio. this studio makes some sort of videos peppered throughout the game, or one episode (PP).

btw, Kojima answered that in GZ the hair looks whiter than it really is due to the intense strength of the lighting in the FOX engine.

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@Inkerman said:

The more theories I read about this, the more I realise the MGS universe is fucking insane.

pretty much

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@baldgye said:

@Inkerman said:

The more theories I read about this, the more I realise the MGS universe is fucking insane.

pretty much

It has already featured one boss fight where the dude will scream at you for using a Sixaxis controller and your tactical advisor Col. Cambell tells you your best strategy is to shoot the bust of the bosses fathers head. I am somewhat surprised it took a flying whale that is lit on fire eating a helicopter for your to finally notice that MGS is basically bat shit insane.

But then that's part of why I love Metal Gear.

Anyway the dude isn't Zero. Is it in England? I doubt it. I expect it is somewhere like the Gaf people keep spamming (Cyprus) just based on the few moments where you actually see outside. Also this is obviously not a standard, or even necessarily legal hospital we are dealing with. It isn't like MGS 4 or MGS 2 didn't take place in more than one locale or anything. No way it is just one game that takes place over time in different areas ;p.

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