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#1 Posted by Neon25 (40 posts) -

So the gist is this:

If you bought AC:U you get the DLC(Dead Kings) for free.

If you bought AC:U and AC:U Season Pass, you get the DLC(Dead Kings) for free, Assassin's Creed Chronicles: China, and a free game from Ubi.

If you bought AC:U Gold Edition you get the DLC (Dead Kings) for free, ACC:China and a free game from Ubi.

So it's a win-win for everyone, apart from Ubisoft's financial quarter results.

#3 Edited by Neon25 (40 posts) -

@vinny said:

@sylect said:

@patrickklepek @jeff @vinny @alex @brad what do you suggest then for a person such as myself who is against harassment and death threats (obviously) but feel that many of the ideas behind GG are correct? Please don't respond with not drinking the koolaid, I think there are legitimate problems and that GG has the best chance in years of addressing them. If not GG, how? and when?

I think this is a great question. It might be THE question. Choosing not to consume media you think is corrupt is usually immediate instinct. This industry has changed so much, I have a lot of questions about what it is now and our definitions. Who are the journalists/critics? Who is the audience? Who are the devs? Where are the lines? Are we still talking about GameSpot/IGN and Activision/EA? Are we talking Indie Dev versus YouTube personality? Can you be a dev/critic/fan at the same time? There might be a need or want for an impartial consumer advocacy group. I do believe under GG more harm is coming to this hobby/industry than anything it could possibly answer.

I also think the groups both sides are looking to come to the table don't exist. One side wants the left-wing-journalistic-cabal to sit down. Another side wants the frothing-but-reasonable-death-threat-writer to answer for his crimes. It's like trying to get a Unicorn to debate a Dragon.

Based @vinny . I am pro GamerGate and I can wholeheartedly agree.

#6 Posted by Neon25 (40 posts) -

@dreffen said:

@anwar said:

I've read Jeff's statement and once again this whole thing has been portrayed as a one way street. Only people who were against gamergate or haven't even done anything(afaik some people were harassed who didn't talk about this thing) were targets of harassment, no mention of Boogie or TotalBiscuit, but whatever. What about comments years ago from GB's staff about European journalists? Which are clearly on the take and do this and that? I remember that distinctly happening multiple times. You can call people which you don't know personally or professionally all kind of shit and when it gets back at you(years later and from other people obviously) this is somehow farcical and just a smokescreen for people to instigate harassment. Nice narrative you've got there.

Look, I don't come to video game websites for journalistic integrity, I don't fight that fight. I thought something good might've come out of GG and the majority of events were negative(death threats for everybody). And I for one, don't think that game journalism WORLDWIDE is corrupt, so take it or leave it.

Would you say that the number of death threats Total Biscuit has gotten from being pro-GamerGate or whatever is on the same level of the number of death threats Zoe Quinn, et al have received?

Also you don't really have to look far to know how warped the GamerGate crowd is if they're accepting places like Breitbart and people Adam Baldwin as their standard bearers.

You also don't have to look far to see that GamerGate raised 11,000 dollars for a fundraiser against bullying. ( https://www.crowdrise.com/GamerGateStompsOutBullying/fundraiser/ )

Or that it managed to fund The Fine Young Capitalists project, where women create games.

#7 Posted by Neon25 (40 posts) -

@neon25 said:

While it's nicely written, I'm very disappointed how you still label GamerGate as a hate movement. It's just like saying all Muslims are jihadists. Just because they are a few shitty people in a group doesn't mean all people are shitty. I think you should definitely take a note of that, especially as a lot of people in this "hate movement" are your primary demographic, whether you like it or not.

Still, it was nice to finally get an official statement.

To add to that, it's really sad that Giant Bomb did nothing, while sites like the Escapist actually reevaluated their ethics standards and now if there's any chance that some personal connection might have influenced something in the review, it's simply mentioned in bold font in the header. It's that easy.

#8 Edited by Neon25 (40 posts) -

While it's nicely written, I'm very disappointed how you still label GamerGate as a hate movement. It's just like saying all Muslims are jihadists. Just because they are a few shitty people in a group doesn't mean all people are shitty. I think you should definitely take a note of that, especially as a lot of people in this "hate movement" are your primary demographic, whether you like it or not.

Still, it was nice to finally get an official statement.

#9 Posted by Neon25 (40 posts) -

Nice of you to (not) mention that multiple people pro-GG are threatened and or doxxed as well (including YouTube personality Boogie2988 or the journalist Milo Yiannopoulos or 8chan disabled creator Fred "Hotwheels" Brannon [http://vimeo.com/91583460]), but I guess they're not important because they're not female.

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