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I'm afraid a few cherry picked IRC logs account to nothing.

It never did. Please provide evidence that GG was "founded" as a misogynistic movement. Because I really haven't seen it that way. I saw Adam Baldwin create it. Granted I have... unkind things to say about his conservative beliefs. (He's kind of nuts). It took off from there.

I dunno. I'm sick of it. I'm sick of the media painting those supporting GG as "misogynist manbabies". I'm sick of a minority of GG supporters living up to those accusations and acting like human scum. TALK TO EACH OTHER. Stop labeling everyone as misogynist. Why is this moral superiority groupthink so prevalent that it prevents discussion? STOP. TALK. DISCUSS.

The reason this issue bothers me is the correlations between the so called "Social Justice Moralists" and Jack Thompson years ago. Didn't we laugh Jack Thompson all the way to his disbarment? What's changed? Was his fault not being a woman?

The similarities are there and alarming.

Covering both sides do not result in clicks, acknowledgement of peers, or support of the readers.

Welcome to the state of world-wide journalism. No criticism allowed. Listen and believe. Our story is the right story. Our side is the morally superior side.

The internet has brought many people together, it has also polarized many people away from each other.

I'm afraid this stance will be lost on many people, on both sides of this thing. Those decrying it as a foul, misogynist harassment movement and those saying that "games media" is just a bunch of liberal hipsters practicing armchair activism.

I was hoping GB would stay as a whole away from this issue. If individual staff members post their opinions on other social media fine. But to step into such a divisive topic where both sides hold a sneer of "I'm better than thou" and draw a line as an organization?

That helps no one. Nothing is done. You only made the situation worse. Ignoring harassment on one side while reporting on another screams of pushing a narrative and only fuels the fire. You refuse to discuss. You refuse to talk. You refuse to engage with either side of the debate.

This is not helping. None of this is.

I wish more people would share this sentiment.

A few assholes do not represent a whole.

I made this comment before but it's like saying all Muslims are terrorists, all Christians are homophobic bigots, and all conservatives are racist. It's simply not true.

I'm afraid instances like the MSNBC article will only add fuel to the fire. When you demonize the opposition you only give them more reason to keep going. It's so easy to paint someone who disagrees with you as a misogynist, homophobic, racist, troll and wave away their argument with a sneer of ivory tower smugness. All you have to do is look in the past for examples of this behavior. History just repeats itself, over and over ad nauseam.

@juno500: Well I'm sorry. Apparently news has come out that she wasn't fired and she quit writing of her own volition. I didn't bother looking into it because I've never heard of her. So yeah, I fell into the trap of ignorance. Sorry.

Seriously, the fact that people keep saying she got fired tells me that either a) they don't know anything about this if they were unaware of this simple basic fact, or b) those people are running a smear campaign to make her look worse

I don't appreciate the passive aggressive snark when it's clear I was ignorant on the matter. Mea culpa. I didn't look into it enough. How many times I gotta say my bad? I hope she decides that a few assholes on the internet should't keep her from writing.

@thesoutherndandy: She got fired because she was closely affiliated with the people she wrote an article (sorry, OP-ED) on. It sucks when someone is fired, yeah. Losing your job is never fun. If you lost your job because you broke a certain code of ethics that is enforced by the industry you're working for than you can't really expect much sympathy from anyone. While "games journalism" for whatever the heck that is has rather lax interpretations on ethics due to its nature the "Real world" journalism outside the industry does not. Does it suck she learned this the hard way? Yeah.

Does she deserve the harassment from a group of anonymous online assholes? No. But that's what the internet is, a massive network of anonymous assholes. Don't read too much into what isn't there.

I'm surprised to see a reasonable discussion going on here. I thought the mods would've closed this down a while ago due to how vitriolic and controversial it is on either sides of this thing.

Anyways I'm rather miffed about the 'gamer is dead' articles that are all being pushed by multiple media sites. I've been gaming for my entire life, and now you're telling me I'm some sort of... white male who hates women? I don't understand it. "Gamer" as a label is fine if you want to be labeled as such. I'm a gamer. I'm proud of it. People are always going to be dicks on the internet, to take a vocal minority of assholes and label all "gamers" as being said assholes really does a disservice to the narrative you're trying to push. The people writing all these articles seem to be pushing a political narrative onto a medium where people try to escape political narratives (among other things). This backlash is there because you're labeling a large demographic that is ethnically and socially diverse as "women hating fat white nerds". What did you think would happen when you push a "gamer is dead" narrative? Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

I'm not white, I'm Asian. I don't hate women. I believe women should be equal in all things. I'm for gay marriage and I'm religious. Separation of church and state, temple and state, whatever. So why are all these media sites telling me I should be ashamed and lambasted for being a 'gamer'? Why is this such a bad thing? When did we get to a point where we cherry pick a few assholes on the internet and use that as a way to push a narrative down people's throats? Just... fuck. Can we just play video games? Please? These is nothing good to be achieved for either side of this debate. Nothing good will happen, and it will only hurt the industry.

Anyways can someone sum up what Jeff's response to this "gamers are dead" debacle was at PAX? I don't really want to watch 2 hours of panel.

The moment I saw Sentient Existential Crisis Brown Paper Bag I was on board.