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    Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4

    Game » consists of 5 releases. Released Jul 10, 2008

    Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 is a role-playing game developed and published by Atlus for the PlayStation 2. It is chronologically the fifth installment in the Shin Megami Tensei: Persona series. Like its predecessor, its gameplay combines a traditional role-playing game with elements of a social simulation. Its critical and commercial success spawned a sizable media empire, including several spinoff titles.

    Aren't you taking it a little too far?

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    I am fully aware that I won't make many friends with this topic, but is really necessary to spam the walls of J&V in addition to the normal comments?
     
    http://www.giantbomb.com/shout/wall-to-wall/profile/vinny/profile/mrfluke/
    http://www.giantbomb.com/shout/wall-to-wall/profile/vinny/profile/vantesla/
      
    That's probably just a fraction of the P4 wall messages and I don't even want to now how many similar PM's Jeff and Vinny get. If I were them, I would be extremely annoyed by all this. Yes, they care about this game and clearly are aware of the multiple endings, but P4 is far from being a main focus in the office. Otherwise, V&J would be pretty lousy journalists.
     
    I just don't see the need for putting that sort of pressure on them. There are already many helpful comments, this forum and tons of online FAQs readily available in case they truly need help.
     
    Is there anyone agreeing with me? I am afraid this whole thing has grown way out of proportion.

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    #2  Edited By JJOR64
    @atomic_dumpling: Did you really need to make a thread for this?
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    #4  Edited By Stang
    @atomic_dumpling: 
     
    I agree with your sentiments, not with this thread though. People take this game shit way too seriously....and your P4 example proves it. I don't even look at the comments anymore, you should do the same!
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    #5  Edited By Daryl

     People are crazy.

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    #7  Edited By ChrisTaran
    @atomic_dumpling: Yes, I completely agree with you.  Wish the user base would learn to respect the staff and other members better. 
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    #8  Edited By Tirrandir

    I think it has something to do with the Endurance Run being one of the most popular features of the site.  People get passionate about their beloved features.  I say let them do it.  If it gives the fans some peace of mind, what does it bother you to scroll past?

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    #9  Edited By JJOR64
    @Stang said:
    " @atomic_dumpling:   I agree with your sentiments, not with this thread though. People take this game shit way too seriously....and your P4 example proves it. I don't even look at the comments anymore, you should do the same! "
    Agreed.  It's just another JRPG game out there.
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    #10  Edited By jakob187

    ZOMG, PEOPLE COMMUNICATING ABOUT LIKE INTERESTS ON THE INTERNET?! 
     
    Also...the dood's enjoy reading Endurance Run comments...at least, from what Vinny's Twitter says.

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    #11  Edited By Origina1Penguin

    I think they have Drew or Ryan look through the comments anyways, so they don't see any more spoilers themselves.  If not, they should.  I'd much rather have them surprised and enjoying themselves.  Plus it makes for better banter.

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    I am fully aware of my own hypocrisy here. But if we ever want to see another Endurance Run on giantbomb, we need to figure out how to handle these things more, I don't know, coolly? That's all I am saying, I guess.
     
     @jakob187 said:

    Also...the dood's enjoy reading Endurance Run comments...at least, from what Vinny's Twitter says. "

    Don't get me wrong, I totally love the comments. I tried to stop reading them once, but most of them are far too interesting to be ignored. I read them after watching the video, though.
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    #13  Edited By jon93
    @jakob187:  You underestimate the sheer number of rabid users that constantly PM Jeff and or Vinny.
     
    It's something that comes with popularity, and I'm glad these guys stay down to earth about it. I know I couldn't even if I tried. If I were them I would have locked PMs to my account from normal users a LONNNNG time ago.
     
    But that's part of what makes Giant Bomb so awesome isn't it? Really cool dudes talking about video games.
     
     @atomic_dumpling:  "Ok all 5,000+ fans of Giant Bomb, I REALLLLY want you to play it cool and stop annoying Giant Bomb staff so much!" *proceeds to get beaten with Space Lobster plushies*
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    #14  Edited By ashogo
    @pornstorestiffi said:
    " @Stang said:
    " @atomic_dumpling:   I agree with your sentiments, not with this thread though. People take this game shit way too seriously....and your P4 example proves it. I don't even look at the comments anymore, you should do the same! "
    A man of reason. "
    You have to remember that a good chunk of people commenting are probably middle schoolers and the like. The price that comes with the freedom of the internet.
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    #16  Edited By FluxWaveZ
    @ashogo said:
    " @pornstorestiffi said:
    " @Stang said:
    " @atomic_dumpling:   I agree with your sentiments, not with this thread though. People take this game shit way too seriously....and your P4 example proves it. I don't even look at the comments anymore, you should do the same! "
    A man of reason. "
    You have to remember that a good chunk of people commenting are probably middle schoolers and the like. The price that comes with the freedom of the internet. "

    Thing is, I'm not quite sure that that accurately represents the age group that visits Giant Bomb.
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    #17  Edited By AhmadMetallic
    @Daryl said:
    " People are crazy. "

    PEOPLE EQUAL SHIT 
    PEOPLE EQUAL SHIT 
     
    -- Slipknot
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    #18  Edited By zameer
    @ashogo said:

    " @pornstorestiffi said:

    " @Stang said:
    " @atomic_dumpling:   I agree with your sentiments, not with this thread though. People take this game shit way too seriously....and your P4 example proves it. I don't even look at the comments anymore, you should do the same! "
    A man of reason. "
    You have to remember that a good chunk of people commenting are probably middle schoolers and the like. The price that comes with the freedom of the internet. "
    Yeap, the general vibe I'm getting is that a good majority of the site's fans were born in the nineties. It's a double-edged sword I guess; Giant Bomb has a very young and enthusiastic user base that makes it what it is, but it does go overboard at times like this.
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    #20  Edited By ArbitraryWater

    If you haven't noticed, the Endurance Run is very popular. Some people who have read FAQs and stuff to win the game feel like they have to "correct" Jeff and Vinny's failures. Sure, I doubt that they could achieve the true ending without help, but that doesn't mean that everyone needs to constantly remind them that the event is coming up.

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    #21  Edited By zameer
    @pornstorestiffi said:
    " @zameer said:
    " @ashogo said:

    " @pornstorestiffi said:

    " @Stang said:
    " @atomic_dumpling:   I agree with your sentiments, not with this thread though. People take this game shit way too seriously....and your P4 example proves it. I don't even look at the comments anymore, you should do the same! "
    A man of reason. "
    You have to remember that a good chunk of people commenting are probably middle schoolers and the like. The price that comes with the freedom of the internet. "
    Yeap, the general vibe I'm getting is that a good majority of the site's fans were born in the nineties. It's a double-edged sword I guess; Giant Bomb has a very young and enthusiastic user base that makes it what it is, but it does go overboard at times like this. "
    Agree 100%, but just so we don't give younger people too much crap, there are older guys/girls that still find the need to act like immature dicks, when things they love are looked down upon, and these fanatics despite whatever age will claw onto every thing they can, just to get what they think is a good point across. "
    Oh, fo' sho'! My earlier-demonstrated tendency to overgeneralize younger users as pricks is a solid example of how you can be an ass, whatever your age haha
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    #22  Edited By dopeman

    I absoulutely agree with you.

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    #23  Edited By Slaneesh
    @zameer said:
    " @pornstorestiffi said:
    " @zameer said:
    " @ashogo said:

    " @pornstorestiffi said:

    " @Stang said:
    " @atomic_dumpling:   I agree with your sentiments, not with this thread though. People take this game shit way too seriously....and your P4 example proves it. I don't even look at the comments anymore, you should do the same! "
    A man of reason. "
    You have to remember that a good chunk of people commenting are probably middle schoolers and the like. The price that comes with the freedom of the internet. "
    Yeap, the general vibe I'm getting is that a good majority of the site's fans were born in the nineties. It's a double-edged sword I guess; Giant Bomb has a very young and enthusiastic user base that makes it what it is, but it does go overboard at times like this. "
    Agree 100%, but just so we don't give younger people too much crap, there are older guys/girls that still find the need to act like immature dicks, when things they love are looked down upon, and these fanatics despite whatever age will claw onto every thing they can, just to get what they think is a good point across. "
    Oh, fo' sho'! My earlier-demonstrated tendency to overgeneralize younger users as pricks is a solid example of how you can be an ass, whatever your age haha "


    That might be the reason, however i have a though that could add to the explanation of the problem.   
     
    I think most people can agree that people on the internet in general are harsher with words than in real life, "Not always, in general I mind you!” The safety of sitting behind a computer gives everyone a confidence boost. You can speak your mind without worry. The worst thing that can happen is that some other random guy on the internet writes you angry back.  Hell I call people idiots all the time for being overly ignorant/arrogant, however I would newer walk up to a stranger in real life and say the same thing though. We are all using persononas I might say (Giggle), pun very much intended. My second point is a very normal (hence something many probably have) observation I’ve made over the years. This is psychology on a very basic level. We all have ideas on how we would like to be perceived by others. Some want to appear smart, others beautiful or popular and others like they don’t give a fuck about what anyone thinks which a call your bluff on, we all do in major or minor way.

    Many of us nerds highly like to correct others. It makes us feel smart and clever at the same time. It’s specially a common trait among this group of people because many of the people in this category have so much knowledge and base a lot of their identity on how smart and intelligent they are.  A good way to feel that way is by correcting others, because it boosts our own ego, feel smart, feel useful and a little superior even though we might deny it.  It’s a milder version of watching a reality show and laughing at the people on the TV. What your really doing is thinking “Ha-ha good thing imp not that stupid, fat ugly or whatever”. One feels better about ones own vices when other peoples have worse

    Bring these elements together and you got people who like correcting others while having no fear of repercussion, might even add the young insecure people to the mix, hence the overflow of “Why don’t you do it my way” or “OMFG LOLZ WHY THE FUCK BLA BLA BLA YOU SUCK I RULE” messages.

    Comments??    

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    #24  Edited By DavidSnakes

    They're not journalists....Ryan even said that once.  What they do doesn't even vaguely resemble journalism

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    Yeah well, I suppose you could call them editors, writers, PC office dudes or whatever the heck you want. The point is, this is not (yet?) a Persona fansite.

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    #26  Edited By Slaneesh
    @atomic_dumpling said:
    "Yeah well, I suppose you could call them editors, writers, PC office dudes or whatever the heck you want. The point is, this is not (yet?) a Persona fansite. "

    They are indeed editors. Giantbomb reviews appear on rating site such as metacritic.
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    #27  Edited By Dante_the_Jedi

     This is the internet people on the internet are crazy, This is about a video game people get crazy over video games.  I love the ER it is a lot of fun and I love to hear Jeff and Vinny talk about the crazyness that is going on, I would love to see them get the true ending and all but really people need to chill the fuck out about.
     
    Ok if they don't get it that will suck and all but it will not be then of everything thing.

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    #28  Edited By nick69
    @slaneesh: I can agree with that statement.  
     
    And I like how a lot of people that watch the endurance run haven't even played the game, and feel the need to correct Jeff and Vinny's mistake, which I think is pretty stupid. 
     
    Well whatever, it's the internet, no one can stop them from being retards...
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    #29  Edited By sdauz

    dont give out spoilers.... u love the game we all get it.....many ppl who r watching the ER i might add also read the comments and have never played P4...im getting it in the following week ...SO NO GODDAM SOILERS

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    #30  Edited By mrfluke
    @atomic_dumpling:   relax man i dont constantly nag them wall to wall its the first time in quite a while i wall posted them  i  just felt srry that dumb fucks spammed jeff  and spoiled a piece of the plot. i just wanted to tell him 2 relax because the way that spoiler is presented in the panels of the comic is a bit out of context and vague to the actual situation that the spoiler is significant for ... as for the spamming with the messgaes it seems like a more direct way to give them advice.. i shouldnt say advice but just heads up . its just like " hey chie wil get gods hand at level___ and naoto will get mamudo at level ___" and " if you go and grind the paradise you will get a very awesome item" 
     
    if it wasnt for these guys an their er of this game i would have never thought about this game .. and now having played it and reached the true endgame  i can safely say that its the best rpg ive ever played .. im also a punk enough to admit that im a bit a part of the problem  like during certin scenes of that boss battle i was cringing i was like " AHHH YOU SHOULDVE DONE_____ AND _____" but now its watever let them play the game how they want to 4 as much as other people are bitching at the choices they are doing  they  are doing fine  and everybody is gonna be spamming the non spoiler true ending guide in the comments 2 make sure the endurance run truly concludes ( myself included   
     
    its a bit harsh calling my ass out like this but whatever 
     
     i wonder if vantesla's gonna get you , im just here to explain myself im not here to be like " O U BIG DICKHEAD I HATE YOU BLAH BLAH BLAH..." it would be funny if he does that 
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    #31  Edited By mrfluke
    @Tirrandir said:
    " I think it has something to do with the Endurance Run being one of the most popular features of the site.  People get passionate about their beloved features.  I say let them do it.  If it gives the fans some peace of mind, what does it bother you to scroll past? "
    @FluxWaveZ said:
    " @ashogo said:
    " @pornstorestiffi said:
    " @Stang said:
    " @atomic_dumpling:   I agree with your sentiments, not with this thread though. People take this game shit way too seriously....and your P4 example proves it. I don't even look at the comments anymore, you should do the same! "
    A man of reason. "
    You have to remember that a good chunk of people commenting are probably middle schoolers and the like. The price that comes with the freedom of the internet. "
    Thing is, I'm not quite sure that that accurately represents the age group that visits Giant Bomb. "
    its a varied age group on giantbomb. ive been with these guys since gamespot  and i know im not the only one as well that became alumni 
     
    there is just a lot of dumb fucks on here thats all .. like i really hate that some dumbass went so far as to post the comic in the comments and worse yet spamm jeff with the comic 
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    #32  Edited By FluxWaveZ
    @mrfluke: I just think you should completely avoid giving them advice.  The same goes for everyone else.  I was one of the people who would get frustrated when Jeff/Vinny could have done something better in a situation while they played Persona 4 and tried to always post advice, but I've learned to not care about that anymore.  It's their experience with the game that they're basically showing us.  They never directly asked us to help them except for in the very beginning of the run when they used to reference commenters who posted advice.   Them going for perfecting something and following someone's advice will suck the fun out of it.
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    #33  Edited By mrfluke
    @FluxWaveZ: yeh im like that now i just really wanted to point out the significance of grinding  heaven again because that item is awesome and extremely useful  and i just told them what chie and naoto get  at other levels , the only thing im still shooting for is them 2 get the true ending. it would make some great commentary when they fight _______  and the pose that he makes  i could imagine jeff saying something stupid funny . and just like shadow jesus  i would love to hear their commentary on the other 2 creatures . you seem like you  finished the game so you know what im talking about  
     
    its a free country my friend as much as we dont like it, dickheads will  be dickheads and if they are that savage  once they get striked by the banhammer they will just make another account and continue 
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    #34  Edited By mrfluke

    also id say if it bothers people that much just leave your comment and done, 
     
    usually i just scroll past peoples advice 

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