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Ranking of Fighters 0037: Guilty Gear & Iron & Blood: Warriors of Ravenloft

Science can lead to amazing breakthroughs. We kicked it into high gear in the name of SCIENCE!

Every fighting game ever made, ranked and rated into an extremely scientific list by actual* fighting game scientists!

May. 20 2019

Cast: Ben, Jason

Posted by: Jan

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Love these.

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The scientific community will be outraged about the improper title

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Let's fight!

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nice bait and switch at the beginning there.

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Iron and Blood was released October 31st 1996. Good birthday gift for Ben.

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This series is great, but without the full science team it just isn't nearly as good as it can be.

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Ben, disenfranchised means you lost the right to vote. Disillusioned is what you are.

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GUILTY. GEAR.

I am a huge evangelist for this series, and I'm really excited to see some science applied to it!

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You can buy the Switch port of Guilty Gear 1 for $19.38 Mexican Pesos

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My friends and I had a demo disc of Iron & Blood. It was absolutely awful but we still quote it to this day, so I guess that says something. COMMENCE!

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Let me tell you a story from my youth. Imagine trading in a bunch of your old games for a pair of new fighting games for the original Playstation and Iron & Blood being the better game with a wide margin. That's how extremely terrible Killing Zone is...

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Amazon's official Product Description for Iron and Blood: Warriors of Ravenloft contains a copy-pasted summary of Jeff Gerstman's review of that game from Gamespot (back in 1998).

Hint: He didn't like it.

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That blonde girl from the D&D game looks almost identical to Princess Zelda, wow.

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I hate judge's week.

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reverendhunt  Online

I've said it before and I shall always say it unless something new comes along which displaces it: Best video series on GB.

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The story reason behind why Dr. Bald head became Faust is that when he accidentally killed a little girl during surgery, Baldhead went insane/transcended to a new state of being. That's why Faust can do things like teleport and summon meteors while Baldhead doesn't.

Also in the story they do the Clark Kent thing of having no character being able to recognise Faust because the paper bag, even though he's still a 9 foot tall dude who fights with a giant scalpel.

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It's been a while since I watched the anime adaptation, but Bastard!! is basically Berserk but the protagonist is a wizard, also all of his spells are named after butt rock bands.

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Probably Eddie as in the mascot of Iron Maiden?

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A one armed DnD dwarf? Merle?

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Now that Guilty Gear 1 is scienced it's time to continue with Guilty Gear 2, right?

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@reverendhunt: Best ongoing for sure. Just wish there were more Jeff+Jason episodes.

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Iron and Blood is definitely from that awkward mid-90s era of Dungeons and Dragons games between stuff like Eye of the Beholder and stuff like Baldur's Gate. They were definitely slapping the license onto whatever, and it shows.

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Only thing missing is Jeff's historical spiel about the development and release of this game. He's like the gaming almanac.

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"This isn't a fighting game; this is Hungry Hungry Hippos" is one of the best scientific assessments this series has delivered.

I really like the chill vibe with Jason and Ben. They bounce off each other nicely and have good back-and-forth conversations. I am a fan of Jeff, but he is set in his opinions and tends to show flagrant disregard for the scientific consensus at times.

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This science is FRAUDULENT! Iron and Blood is a goddamn TREASURE!!!

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its the benpacks! guiltygears

i haven't played the first guilty gear (my first one was ggx) but it's maybe my favorite fighting game series

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Finally.

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\m/ >_< \m/

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Iron & Blood was actually supposed to come out for the the never-released M2, the follow-up to the 3DO. I remember seeing the screenshots numerous times in Next Generation magazine in 1995, being hailed as the "YES THESE ARE ACTUAL SCREENSHOTS" future of gaming.

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deadliest warrior legends will always be #1 in my heart

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Heh. Nice Braindead reference there, Jason *thumbs up*

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Watching you guys have fun with fighting games and getting really into the matches is such a good time. I miss Jeff on RoF though.

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@jeff do Guilty Gear's health bars make any sense to your eyes

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That first iron and blood match looked like the stage you fight eyedol in killer instinct.

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rip the iron throne

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@dya said:

rip the iron throne

RIP the Iron and Blood throne

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Ben asked what version is Advanced D&D, Jason says 4th probably

Advanced D&D is its own version(technically 2e as AD&D is its own branch from original)

4th edition didn't come out until 2008

also these health bars are the WORST

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Finally, I found the game I was looking for. As a kid I didn't own any consoles but I was layed up with a hurt knee and had a friend lent me their Playstation. I played so much Iron & Blood: Warriors of Ravenloft but could never find the name of the game when I was older. This is a great blast from the past.

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Please just don't record these if Jeff isn't there. This and the last one with him not there was just boring. No one really talks or explains anything. This series should be about showing off these games, what they do well and what they suck at. Explaining why they are good or bad, and evaluating them between the other games and having fun. This was just watching two people play a fighting game and then stopping.

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At 49:21 there was a weird chirping sound, and I got scared to death that a bird had somehow gotten into my house...

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Oh boy! Now I that Ben mentioned it Guilty Gear does have that Bastard! influence. I remember watching that anime and how it was the first anime that I watched that incorporated rock by having one main protagonists had spells named after rock songs like "Guns and Rows." Too bad the series never was completed.

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Ky Kiske is named after the first two Helloween vocalists! One of the few references in there I actually get.

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Blood: Warriors of Ravenloft was appropriately scienced. That is the worst fighting game I've ever seen.

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Balls is Better