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Giant Bombcast 653: That's Hot Soup!

Between the Bethesda acquisition, PlayStation 5 pricing, and our budding Vtuber careers, there's a LOT to talk about this week, along with Mario 3D All-Stars, WWE Battlegrounds, the final version of Hades, quarantine bathing habits, and more breakfast cereals than anyone could eat.

The Giant Bombcast is the world's most beloved video game podcast, and now it's available in video form.

Sep. 22 2020

Cast: Jeff, Brad, Ben, Jan

Posted by: Brad

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Hot Soup is great, but Ma$e Window will live forever.

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thats some hot soup aaaaaand that is a Mario fact

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oh goddamnit did Korone get to Giant Bomb too? is there nowhere I can be rid of this virtual plague

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Hella yabai thumbnail

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How long until the Bombcast is presented entirely by V-tuber avatars?

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YUBI!

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I've fallen deep into a V-tuber hole the past week or so. I can see it not being for anyone, but I do find Korone and some others to be highly entertaining

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Haachama is the best vtuber prove me wrong

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Korone has come to.

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This is bad. Giant Bomb giving free commercial to V-tubers what is next?. PS! i know all about v-tubers, because youtube algorithm hates me.

Have a nice day!.

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Mace Window.

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We all losing our Yubis now

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The one thing I'm a little "weird" with all these games coming also to PS4 is the PS5 Dual Sense controller. I was already pretty side eye on it thinking this is a gimmick like Six Axis and it was obviously not going to be used heavily by 3rd parties that need to sell on PC and Xbox also. Doesn't seem like it's going to be much for Sony 1st party also, I'd figure Horizon Zero Dawn 2 would have had some integration for it.

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Just listened to @jeff outline his Dark Vtuber Future, and that actually happened with Kizuna Ai, who was the first vtuber to break into the mainstream in a big way. The company behind her completely misread their market, and tried to replace the original voice actress with several additional actors, and was met with major rejection from their fanbase.

The way I think about it, vtbuers are basically like wrestlers. They are real human beings performing a corporate owned character, but are also so intrinsically tied with the character that you can't disassociate it from the performer. Just like you can't have someone other than Mark Calaway be the Undertaker, you can't have another performer be Fubuki

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"Heeeey Guuuuuys! Yubi! Yubi!"

The day has finally arrived....and just days after she marathon streamed 'Mystery of Atlantis' too.

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@mysticpirate said:

Just listened to @jeff outline his Dark Vtuber Future, and that actually happened with Kizuna Ai, who was the first vtuber to break into the mainstream in a big way. The company behind her completely misread their market, and tried to replace the original voice actress with several additional actors, and was met with major rejection from their fanbase.

The way I think about it, vtbuers are basically like wrestlers. They are real human beings performing a corporate owned character, but are also so intrinsically tied with the character that you can't disassociate it from the performer. Just like you can't have someone other than Mark Calaway be the Undertaker, you can't have another performer be Fubuki

Pretty much, I can't imagine them doing anything but retiring the character if the VA bails for one reason or another. I don't think anyone cares about the avatars themselves, it's all about what the performer has been bringing to the table. Even a soundalike would probably get sussed out very quickly if a swap was done in secret.

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Someone who's good at video editing please make a video of Optimus Prime talking but just use Jeff's voice when his Mic starting to go out. I'd do it but my skills are more tied to drawing that video editing.

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Not since Demon Phone Call Ben has such a delightful audio mishap made me so joyful.
Robot Jeff is my favorite guest podcast member.

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oh god seeing korone on the front page of giant bomb really freaked me out . my interests weren't supposed to converge like this ....

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@mysticpirate said:

Just listened to @jeff outline his Dark Vtuber Future, and that actually happened with Kizuna Ai, who was the first vtuber to break into the mainstream in a big way. The company behind her completely misread their market, and tried to replace the original voice actress with several additional actors, and was met with major rejection from their fanbase.

The way I think about it, vtbuers are basically like wrestlers. They are real human beings performing a corporate owned character, but are also so intrinsically tied with the character that you can't disassociate it from the performer. Just like you can't have someone other than Mark Calaway be the Undertaker, you can't have another performer be Fubuki

Pretty much, I can't imagine them doing anything but retiring the character if the VA bails for one reason or another. I don't think anyone cares about the avatars themselves, it's all about what the performer has been bringing to the table. Even a soundalike would probably get sussed out very quickly if a swap was done in secret.

Yeah, since that Kizuna Ai situation I don't think any agency is willing to pull another fast one by switching the actor behind the character - Kizuna Ai never recovered from all that fall out.

That being said though, the actors will sometimes "reincarnate" because their character might be bound to an agency or group, but they as the actors might want to move on for one reason or another. Other times they reincarnate because they're joining a group or agency and often want to start fresh. Korone and Okyayu for example had their own characters that were semi well known before retiring them to join Hololive.

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Well its a good start that the first one they talk about is korone and not the eldritch horror that is Haachama chama~

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I have no fucking idea what a VTube is and I feel like whenever I find out what it is, my brain will received irrevocable damage.

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@mcplated said:
@staplegun said:
@mysticpirate said:

Just listened to @jeff outline his Dark Vtuber Future, and that actually happened with Kizuna Ai, who was the first vtuber to break into the mainstream in a big way. The company behind her completely misread their market, and tried to replace the original voice actress with several additional actors, and was met with major rejection from their fanbase.

The way I think about it, vtbuers are basically like wrestlers. They are real human beings performing a corporate owned character, but are also so intrinsically tied with the character that you can't disassociate it from the performer. Just like you can't have someone other than Mark Calaway be the Undertaker, you can't have another performer be Fubuki

Pretty much, I can't imagine them doing anything but retiring the character if the VA bails for one reason or another. I don't think anyone cares about the avatars themselves, it's all about what the performer has been bringing to the table. Even a soundalike would probably get sussed out very quickly if a swap was done in secret.

Yeah, since that Kizuna Ai situation I don't think any agency is willing to pull another fast one by switching the actor behind the character - Kizuna Ai never recovered from all that fall out.

That being said though, the actors will sometimes "reincarnate" because their character might be bound to an agency or group, but they as the actors might want to move on for one reason or another. Other times they reincarnate because they're joining a group or agency and often want to start fresh. Korone and Okyayu for example had their own characters that were semi well known before retiring them to join Hololive.

I'd note however that the Korone & Okayu thing is a fan rumour, and while it's plausible, it hasn't and likely never will be confirmed by the performers themselves. You have very rare situations like Suisei bringing her character along with her when she joined Hololive, but as a whole, the industry is just too young to have seen much movement of performers outside of the indie vtuber -> Hololive/Nijisanji pipeline.

Should the industry survive long enough to mature, my suspicion is that it's going to follow a similar track with pro wrestling where when a performer moves from one big organisation to another, even if the character is owned by the previous company, it'll be an open secret (or maybe even officially recognised) that the new vtuber was formerly X from company Y

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Jeff is Legion from Mass Effect.

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@drchibi: I was there for that. At least I was checking in from time to time and saw the end. I don't know how a human maintains a character for 12 straight hours through the night playing the same short section of game for that long. Had to give it up for the work ethic.

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I feel like Jeff could have a great conversation with Tsukino Mito if not for the language barrier.

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VTuber Jeff is happening

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I very much enjoyed Jeff two-beat lawl at Brad's "but it's the 100 emoji".

Very very much did this make me laugh too because that is stupid as hell and I love this website.

Also, I am so not interested in the consoles. At all, man- Honestly for me it's about the games, and how good they are. Where I can play them only becomes a concern when I CANNOT play the ones I absolutely know I will love. I understand the zeitgeist of gamer culture hype, but;

REALISTIC TALK- between 2017, and now, I have only played three REALLY exceptional games that speak to me on depths that felt innovative or spectacular in some aspect that made it a reinvention of video game genres, bars set for reasons to engage with games that make you think and participate in equal parts in a new way, look spectacular, and are constructed so well they respectively have either invented or re-invented or combined genres- none of them have anything to do with anything having to do with consoles or what the developers by history's record went based on exclusivity and all came out mid generation. Three games total that stood out as examples of how to make more out of less, and just hammer it together so GD well, the compulsion to play it is impossible to resist. I am not great at articulating this, but, I guess I don't see the point in pre-ordering, and also, that I think the game market is SO saturated, that when in three years time,

Absolver, across all consoles is to this day my favorite hybrid video game that masquerades as Dark Souls, but it isn't, it's the best arena-card-battler-guitar-hero-street fighter fighting game, and I care more about Sloclap and their next project than Horizon and God of war. I've dumped over 6000 hours in Absolver and am somewhere in the upper tier of players, own it on both PS4 and PC, and alternate on the situation- BECAUSE- this game's competitive skill cieling is insane, and no meta will ever stay valid by need to build in a tony-hawk/godhand combat deck system, all existing in 1v1 fighting game traditional form, AND in a soulsian open World lobby that, as a common space is a gigantic training stage, more street fighter than street fighter. The team that made it is like, 20-40 people, and it's on all three platforms, and that's awesome, and what I care about, not what console has the bigger D.

Then, Monster Hunter is amazing, everyone knows about that one. I would hope I could assume people know Control is as good as it is as well, but my point is really that these games are maybe not the biggest, but for my tastes per genre and video game, some of the best of all time, and it has literally nothing to do with either Sony or Microsoft. This may change, but it hasn't yet- so until it does, this whole console clamor to me is confusing; it's interesting, and for following the big scheme, it's a fun hobby just to be in the know, but when people emotionally invest in either one of these companies, aka, buy either console before they happen, aka, bring the best of games that are going to hook you for literally thousands of hours on a unique quality loop like the aformentioned titles, having an existential saga of which console to go digital-or-disk-drive at pre-order sellout is game hype culture on both the corporate side, and the player side, feel like 'more' instead of 'good' is acceptable and regressive. I want good video games. That's all I care about, so sell me good video games and have them actually be good, and then I will buy oddly shaped controllers with closed ecosystems.

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korone good

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pro tip, Mario 64 does not hold up, nor has it since galaxy 1 came out. Sunshine however bad you think it is, is miles better than 64.

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Brad might enjoy the Korone Doom 2016 compilation

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@zoofame: Isn't the rolling recording an aspect of that shitty Facebook social space rather than the headset itself?