Endurance Run: Chrono Trigger - Part 29

The Lavos roar is the best soundbite to come out of the 16bit era. Every time you hear it, you know things have hit the fan.

Great episode, definitely a defining moment of the entire game.

@Neurotic said:

I never understood how the Twin Golems fight works either. I had Brono and Bucca's last techs so I just exploded them a lot. I hope they figure out this prison break part quickly, like I didn't.

Yeah, the prison break thing is one of the more complicated areas in the game.

Brono melting would have had more impact if he'd been anything but another silent cipher of a 16 year old JRPG protagonist.

Thank God Bobo and Brog are still around! They've at least got personality.

it's fuckin crono dude

also too bad they aren't using marle because her reactions to the crono incident are the most touching

@max3000: It works on news stories, too; that's how I got mine.

@Addfwyn said:

Good work, glad to see they figured that one out pretty fast. The Ocean Palace Incident is a pretty interesting point in the lore of the Chrono universe, so many of the links with Trigger and Cross (and I suppose Radical Dreamers) comes from that moment. Took me a while before I exactly figured out EVERYTHING that happened during it though. Such great story for the time.

Not too surprised they are confused, I didn't even fully understand everything that happened in the Incident until finishing Cross and Radical Dreamers both.

I got the gist of it but I still don't know exactly what goes on.

Their reactions seemed pretty sincere. I didn't get choked up when I got to this point playing the game as a teen. I think Crono is too much of a blank slate for the player to form any real attachment to him.

I thought "What button did you press!?" was pretty good. And man, that Lavos scream. You don't really feel any malice coming from it when it's just kind of sitting there, but then it lets out that scream and you know from the feeling in the pit of your stomach that everything is about to get fucked up. It's a shame they talk over it in the video.

I always thought "Destruction Rains From the Heavens" was an awesome name. It's one of those cases where, I think, a more direct translation from Japanese works. Over the top just enough to fit the ultimate ability of the final boss.

Bucca is no stand in for Brono, should've went with Byla at least. T_T

edit: Also that was fucking hilarious, Bobo surviving getting a punch in and laughing maniacally right before getting downed.

Them NOT having trouble with the Golem Twins is just the perfect pay-off. It's like they're idiot savants at Chrono Trigger.

Truly, TRULY, nothing stops the endurance run.

Some serious story beats in this one.

So much JRPG

I hope they remember to get their stuff back. I'm pretty sure you can leave without it. Also, that description reminds me of the Goonies.

@Spatulalad said:

Brono melting would have had more impact if he'd been anything but another silent cipher of a 16 year old JRPG protagonist.

Thank God Bobo and Brog are still around! They've at least got personality.

To be fair, this game came out way before all the other games,w hich made silent protagonist a trope in JRPGs. And as kinda mentioned in the comments, if you had other people in your party at the time,t he moment carries a bit more weight.

@Draxyle: Kefka's laugh is high up there in my opinion

Well, that sure was something.

Having not played Chrono Trigger, I predict they continue their fight against Lavos, defeat him, then go to 1000 AD and meet Crono at the very beginning of the game. Then they all share a laughing animation that Patrick is so fond of.

@mithical:

Well, a lot to talk about there, I'll assume anyone that clicks the spoilers is familiar with all 3 games in the trilogy pretty well, so fair warning!

Whew, does that help?

Grrrrr, payback!

@RageKage14 said:

I can tell they're invested in this game the way that a major character death is met with extreme apathy.

Brono is barely a character.

@RageKage14 said:

I can tell they're invested in this game the way that a major character death is met with extreme apathy.

Brono would have to be a character first in order to be a major character. He's basically a cursor.

Shit got dark.

Why is there an age gate on youtube? Youtube is fucking stupid about this.

@Spatulalad said:

Brono melting would have had more impact if he'd been anything but another silent cipher of a 16 year old JRPG protagonist.

Thank God Bobo and Brog are still around! They've at least got personality.

The main character dying totally has impact because he was the only character you were allowed to play as. At this point in the game, you have leveled up with him, gotten new moves, and are invested in the story. You experienced all this stuff THROUGH him, now the game says to play as someone else. Playing as Brog or Bucca or Bobo feels foreign and weird because you are use to someone else.

And even earlier, the little kid said "One of you will die". Who actually thought it was going to be the only person you are allowed to play as? My jaw was open the first time this happened.

Brono, you... GOONIE!

@Landon: It's a good point, and a pretty unusual move for an RPG in this timeframe to just wipe out one of your crew. I had the same feeling at the big twist in FFVI at the end of the World of Balance. I was stunned that a game would just...throw everything out like that and craft something entirely new.

@CH3BURASHKA said:

Well, that sure was something.

Having not played Chrono Trigger, I predict they continue their fight against Lavos, defeat him, then go to 1000 AD and meet Crono at the very beginning of the game. Then they all share a laughing animation that Patrick is so fond of.

Nope. Brono can, in fact, stay dead for good.

Is it just me or is Dalton seem a little like Dhaos from Tales of Phantasia?

Also they better get Magus because, hey he's Magus.

what the hell at the golem twins fight. seriously, that was crazy. That isn't actually an effective strategy right? They just got crazy lucky? I remember that fight being really hard

I really hope they don't leave the blackbird without getting all of their stuff back from the chests first. It's also too bad they aren't using Ayla. She's the only one who's still able to fight after they have all of their stuff taken away.

As for the twin golem fight, personally I just used Barle, Brog, and Brono. Their Water copies are so weak that just constantly hitting them with ice/water techs while occasionally healing with aura whirl or heal does them in easily.

edit: Also, if they choose to fight Magus I'm going to be so disappointed :\

Dalton is such a great jerk. Definitely one of the characters I remember best. Could never be bothered to find that extra, related dungeon the DS Version had, though.

"He's like a porcupine mixed with a vagina" - Ryan Davis, Giantbomb.com

Patrick's over-thinking combat finally wins the day!

If it were me, I'd probably reload my last save, strip Brono naked, then go through the cutscene again. No sense wasting my best gear. Otherwise that's the fatal flaw in Chrononomics.

It's the part I was most upset about in FFVII, and Dragon Age: Origins: Awakening... Stop leaving/dying and taking my damn gear, dammit!

It's a porcugina

Dalton is trying to compete with Lavos for biggest jerk.

Man, this stuff is totally why I loved Chrono trigger! Also, they're now using my favorite character! BUCCCCCAAAA! :D

@onan said:

Patrick's over-thinking combat finally wins the day!

If it were me, I'd probably reload my last save, strip Brono naked, then go through the cutscene again. No sense wasting my best gear. Otherwise that's the fatal flaw in Chrononomics.

It's the part I was most upset about in FFVII, and Dragon Age: Origins: Awakening... Stop leaving/dying and taking my damn gear, dammit!

And FFIV with the number of times that characters would die/appear to die/leave you.

Dark second act.

Now the question is will they figure out how to/want to revive Chrono or will they just beat the game. I do wonder if Patrick really forgot about that event or if he was just feigning surprise.

Also I wonder if they will fight Magus or not when the time soon comes.

This and the previous episode are the best in a while. Hopefully they keep up this quality, because Ryan Davis said on his twitter that under no circumstance will they accept any outside help or hints whatsoever.

When I was 15 (1995) I played this game though about 10 times for the multiple endings. They did what I did my first time through if I remember the ER vids correctly. They didn't get a clone from the game tent in 1000AD.... Brono is not coming back :(

Hey, look, one of the coolest RPG scenes ever.

2nd best episode after the Magus castle one.

I'm going to personally vote (not that there's voting) that they kill Magus. I think we all got Magus on our first play through, and I would like to see Frog's improved ending without Magus.

@20x6 said:

When I was 15 (1995) I played this game though about 10 times for the multiple endings. They did what I did my first time through if I remember the ER vids correctly. They didn't get a clone from the game tent in 1000AD.... Brono is not coming back :(

The fair is still there. They can still get the clone.

Also, guesses on how many episodes it will take them to find their stuff? I remember it taking me a loooong time the first time I played. Hopefully they don't miss any crates.

@Talon64 said:

@onan said:

Patrick's over-thinking combat finally wins the day!

If it were me, I'd probably reload my last save, strip Brono naked, then go through the cutscene again. No sense wasting my best gear. Otherwise that's the fatal flaw in Chrononomics.

It's the part I was most upset about in FFVII, and Dragon Age: Origins: Awakening... Stop leaving/dying and taking my damn gear, dammit!

And FFIV with the number of times that characters would die/appear to die/leave you.

For some of us in FFIV, we weren't so lucky as to simply come back... ;_;

Patrick: "This isn't Dark Souls!"

I think I might have just come up with a great future Endurance Run.

i wish they would stop using the same attacks and characters, they need to switch it up

How fitting that the part of the game where everything goes to shit is being played on the year that everything might go to shit.

@MasterWGS said:

Patrick: "This isn't Dark Souls!"

I think I might have just come up with a great future Endurance Run.

Oh gosh, people think the comments for this ER are bad, but I can just imagine the ones coming from commenters watching them die thirty times at the same boss in Dark Souls... Chrono Trigger is already intense enough. Dark Souls would tear us all apart.

I think that Biff just stole the Delorean.

I think I still have this game in my basement. I'll go and find it.

I love how they died less than 2 minutes in and then got through the boss without much trouble. Also that cutscene was awesome. I'm excited for this ER again.

I've been lurking these comments to see what people thought who've played the game before, and now I think you guys have no idea what you're talking about :P I kept hearing "they'll hit a brick wall at the golem twins," but they smoked them with hardly any trouble! Ryan can step up when it's necessary.