Film & 40s: Film & 40s: Con Air

Abby briefly thinking they might actually be on Mercury is great.

Wow! That was one bad movie! I don't think I've seen that in 15 years. Probably be 30 years before I see it again!

That was awful!

@thedigitalistic said:

It blows almost as much as this movie.

Dan knows I'm right :)

I genuinely enjoy this film.

I hope Abby hates The Rock, that would be hilarious.

@dweezilx: Clearly you've never seen Armageddon. Bruce Willis has such a bad accent that he just stops doing it part way through.

To be fair, twice would be too many times.

I like Con Air more than the Rock.

Yeah, if an army ranger veteran war hero defending his pregnant wife from attack can't get a fair trial in Alabama, I guess this really IS the darkest timeline.

Oh GOD, I forgot this movie was written at peak "the justice system cares more about CRIMINALS than VICTIMS!" and is basically porn for people with victim complexes.

Another really bad Nick Cage movie. I look forward to it so we can get to the best bad Nick Cage movies.

Film and 40s is genuinely my favorite GB feature, so please accept this as genuine constructive feedback and not just me bitching: two hours of listening to people mocking and making fun of a good, mediocre or terrible movie is entertaining. Two hours of listening to people complain about a movie is frustrating.

That said, you guys are still awesome and I'm looking forward to next week!

I think I'm going crazy, cause I swear I remember listening to a Giant Bomb commentary for The Rock already. I can't find it though. Have I come from the future?

Alex once mentioned drive angry a few weeks ago so I watched it and it was one of the best movies nice cafe has dome so why aren't yell gonna do that movie

Man, such a great terrible movie. Fun to re-watch with F&F for sure. At least it's pretty much all uphill from here for the most part.

@themanwithnoplan:Dan has talked about it in every video series he has been a part of.

Why was Steve Buscemi even in this movie.. I kept waiting for him to do anything

@hornet: I dunno, but I like it and they've done this for literally every one they've done so maybe it's just not the content for you. You post sounds less like constructive criticism and more just you kind of being a jerk.

This is an absolute blast to listen to. I don't think I'll watch Con Air without it.

"We kidnapped a robot" is such a hilarious line.

@sethmode: What part of my comment was jerky? I've enjoyed every single Film and 40s up to this point. The difference here, is instead of poking fun at a bad movie, they're not even talking about it for half the run time, and when they are, it's mostly just complaining and groaning about the same stuff over and over. I get it's supposed to be for laughs, but when they talk over important parts of the movie's plot, and then complain that the few parts of the plot that make good sense, make no sense, because they weren't listening, that's really frustrating.

@thekitkatshuffler: yah they should take a week off so Dan can be there for The Rock.

The character in drag isn't treated poorly by the characters and is given a weapon etc. Doesn't mean it's a poor representation of a trans-person, It's just drag ?

Edit: except for the slap at the end.

Regarding the fire spear thing, they have to knock into ceilings and walls to get to the flames sometimes. Or at least to check that those areas are clear. I'm just guessing though.

Dan not being in The Rock commentary is honestly just stupid. Take a week off, switch movies, etc. If there's one movie that Dan should absolutely be in on it's that. Incredibly puzzling decision.

Can we get Nicholas Cage on the Exquisite Corp to read an intro?

This is a very good Film and 40s and an enjoyable movie.

It's a crime Dan isn't doing The Rock.

@themanwithnoplan: Alex and Rorie did The Rock for the Screening Room back in the Screened days, which was essentially this same feature except live streamed.

Con Air > Face/Off

Welp, Con Air aged like shit. Cage clearly gives no fucks with that accent and the editing, direction and action is awful. How Malkevich goes from the middle of the Vegas strip to landing in a power plant has always baffled me when I first saw it and it looks even stupider now that I've rewatched it. I guess I just had fond memories of it cause it was in the pantheon of 90s airplane hijack movies that defined my childhood. The others of course being Passenger 57, Air Force One, and Steven Seagal's best movie, Executive Decision. I watched Executive Decision lately and it actually holds up surprisingly well. They should do a Film and 40s of the first 20 minutes of that movie just for their reaction to Steven Seagal alone.

The Rock is legit good though. It's still got some Michael Bay-isms, but its not nearly as dated as Face/Off and Con Air.

I'm 110% in support of a Keanu F&40s season after we're done with Cage. He has tons of good movies, most of which I haven't seen in a long while.

@swordstruck: I agree

Dan needs to watch Bad Boys 1 and 2 like yesterday.

I still enjoyed this episode but some of it was, to be honest, really annoying to listen to. Con Air has some real bad parts (everything with Steve Buscemi's character, for example) but there's plenty of fun to be had with the dumb shit in this movie. What's not fun is 2 hours of people yelling "why is this happening? who is this guy?" Obviously the plot is hard to follow when you're doing commentary and drinking but that's fine. Just watch the movie. If you miss shit, who cares? Not everything has to be overanalyzed and explained.

Also, it's dumb that you guys are doing The Rock without Dan. Just take a week off, no one will mind.

@milkman: @stanek1: I actually watched it for the first time a couple months back, so it's possible my mind (having listened to these people for years of my life) imposed some of the staff's voices and opinions in my memory of watching it.

Also, seriously? Ya'll are gonna watch The Rock without Dan? There's gotta be some other Nic Cage movie that's less of a "Dan Film" to watch while he's gone. :(

Con Air is better than Face/Off, possibly The Rock too ?

@alex Sir, I'd like to throw my voice into the choir requesting the postponement of "The Rock" until Dan returns from his vacation.

Maybe instead do "The Wicker Man" or "Bad Lieutenant : Port of Call New Orleans?"

They're slower movies and Dan wouldn't add too much to the commentary.

@stustap: Nope. Wrong.

I can prove it, too.

See, if Con Air is 5.

Then Face/Off is 6.

Then The Rock is 7.

See? Maths!

Everyone was hilarious during this, Jeff being here for this was fantastic as well.

I've never seen the Rock so pretty excited for that!

To Abby and Vinny, I find it hilarious that the two "Memes" you were talking about were actually the same thing, based off of a Kate Beaton comic

Abby's Southern Accent is so, so much better than Cage's (Her Australian could still use some work)

Con Air is a bad movie that is entirely redeemed by its final 15 minutes or so. Fun fact, my Art History teacher actually used the plane crash as an example of perfection within an artistic movement.

And I absolutely have to chime in with others and say I'll happily forego getting wasted for a week to allow Dan to join in on The Rock.

This feature is the closest I'll ever probably get to watching The Rock with Dan, and I absolutely don't want to miss out on that. I know y'all value regularity and consistency but legit just postpone it a week.

Boy they really tore this one apart huh. Some deserved, some not. For example the cipher for the letter. They do realise that's mail the Virus received from their boss and prisons can read inmate mail right?

And I enjoy Con Air more than either (but it's also not a good movie). My current collection contains neither Face Off or The Rock; I just don't enjoy them. In fact, the recent F&F for Face Off made me want to watch Broken Arrow more than anything.

Me too! Watched it recently, because it's mostly dumb fun, but the transphobia part was really shocking and off putting.

Man, if I didn't have subtitles, this would have been a fucking nightmare. I remember watching the first Fast and Furious, and being able to watch it without subtitles because everyone picked their spots without talking over plot points, this was just pure talk from the most sensitive commentary ever...

This is funny; I thought I would be alone in this opinion.

Guys... This is bad. Like Con Air is bad, but the commentary is worse, which is a real shame, cause you guys are funny people. What's the point of talking about John Wick through all of a sweet Steve Buscemi scene? Like the commentary should generally flow from the movie, instead of the movie being completely incidental. Otherwise, just do a goddamn movie podcast. I don't want to complain, but I was really looking forward to this, and it's just frustrating to listen to.