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Giant Bombcast 482: Mega Duck Hunt

Jeff’s back from LA with a bunch of thoughts on Destiny 2, then we turn to Far Cry 5, more turmoil at IO, Injustice 2, some very disturbing Rabbids, weird old consoles, and a few difficult questions.

The Giant Bombcast is the world's most beloved video game podcast, and now it's available in video form.

May. 23 2017

Cast: Jeff, Brad, Ben, Jason

Posted by: Jason

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@cynicologist: I agree--- Ben has been the perfect addition to the crew!

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The new Lucio looks great...what are you going on about?

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The new Lucio looks great...what are you going on about?

New Lucio is the best skin in the game! That slow jazz when you are healing, and up beat jazz when speeding. I LOVE it.

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@azraeldr said:

@larmer: @larmer: Who cares how Ubisoft is pronounced? They make shit games anyway.

Owp, we found the edgy commenter.

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Nice STarskey N Hutch-ass theme song!

Is this a new version of the theme song for all time? I like it

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Boy did I not miss the Giant Bomb crew talking about Destiny.

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Wait, IO employees getting laid off and the Rabbids teaming up with Mario is not one bad piece of news and one good piece of news. That's about the same tone. Rabbids aren't any better than Minions, they're the same, and have probably got a Clark Kent/Superman thing going on.

What's going on in current-day Montana that's so messed up that the Bombcast are going "This is a great setting for slaughtering all the wildlife and fly around with grenade launchers liberating bandit camps"? I didn't know the US was that rough.

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It sometimes astonishes me that these guys don't even know the basic arguments against their stated positions on things. Like "Net Neutrality" which hands a bunch of power to the federal government to fix a problem that doesn't exist, which is definitely NOT a win-win for the consumer. When giant government-protected conglomerate cronies like Comcast and TWC are vehemently supporting something like this, it's worth giving it a second look.

Just one economics example from before the passage of NN: https://mises.org/library/net-neutrality-scam

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Theme of dreams!

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Hey neat! My email got read! Feels good, first timer.

For the record, I would hate to know when my time was up, Jason got my reasoning exactly.

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Damn 117 hours to finish persona, is that the normal amount of time it takes? I heard it was supposed to be in the mid 60s and I'm currently on hour 30.

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Damn 117 hours to finish persona, is that the normal amount of time it takes? I heard it was supposed to be in the mid 60s and I'm currently on hour 30.

Depends on you and what difficulty you play on. I'm a pretty slow player going through on normal and got up to 123 hours while my fairly faster friend went through on the easiest difficulty and did it in like 60.

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with all this Destiny 2 talk, I've been watching a lot of this sites content on the first game. Main themes, Dan has never done a raid and the only one Jeff hasn't done is Dark Below's raid. I would loooove to see them do that one. Also with potentially Ben and Vinny trying Destiny, could be a fun time

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@mormonwarrior: Minor correction here, Comcast and TWC claim to support net neutrality in principle, but oppose any sort of government regulation to make it happen. Hence their support for the repeal of title II classification for internet service.

Of course it's just lip service, both of these companies have been caught violating net neutrality principles in the past and have fought tooth-and-nail for the right to arbitrarily charge different rates for different types of internet packets. Which is why TWC is being sued by New York for throttling Netflix and League of Legends speeds.

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/5t18o4/time_warner_cable_sued_by_new_york_on_behalf_of/

http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/02/time-warner-cable-lawsuit-says-twc-lied-about-internet-speed.html

Without net neutrality protections, enjoy having to pay extra to your ISP to get them to stop deliberately fucking online gaming, for no reason other than they know gamers are willing to pay more for internet.

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For the Dog Poop vs. Roller Skate, just do the dog poop, get those little booties that go over your shoes and wait for the poop to happen then dump the booties.

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"but my yogurt stinks" grossed me out way too hard

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@zaldar said:
@andythemez said:

Nice STarskey N Hutch-ass theme song!

Is this a new version of the theme song for all time? I like it

It's their old theme song.

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Please do Film & Forties: Shrek.

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Daily four-hour hangovers? No amount of money would make that acceptable. You're basically choosing to have chronic migraines.

And you might be able to handle that now, but you'll keep getting older..

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@emphulio said:

with all this Destiny 2 talk, I've been watching a lot of this sites content on the first game. Main themes, Dan has never done a raid and the only one Jeff hasn't done is Dark Below's raid. I would loooove to see them do that one. Also with potentially Ben and Vinny trying Destiny, could be a fun time

Yeah, Jeff also said he didn't think anybody would want to see them doing the early hours of Destiny again, but supposedly all that stuff has changed since their launch streams, with the removal of Dinklage and all that. I'd like to see what that thing is now.

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Holy shit flashbacks with the the intro music.

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Is this the first time they have reused an ad?

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I want to know who was disappointed by persona 5 in their circle because 5 to me blows 4 out of the water in literally every aspect.

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I was watching John Wick 2 and I had the thought that I/O should just pick up the John Wick license. It's more interesting than bald Hitman guy, anyway.

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Absolutely this!! The whole time throughout the rave/catacombs sequence I was thinking about how awesome a Hitman level it would make. Throw in the Continental Hotel as the central hub where you equip your loadouts and costume. SOLD.

@valeo said:

I was watching John Wick 2 and I had the thought that I/O should just pick up the John Wick license. It's more interesting than bald Hitman guy, anyway.

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Injustice 2's story was good, but Injustice 1 was great.

While I appreciate the idea of following the fucked up universe after they oust Superman from power, it's not nearly as interesting or fun as seeing regular-ass DC universe crossing over into the Injustice world.

Finding out which characters turned heel and which resisted, regular Joker causing a ruckus in a world his dead counterpart basically broke Superman and fucked the world up, good Superman managing to make his way across universes to finally beat the shit outta evil Superman. One of the few times I've ever felt hype to see Superman show up.

This one was good though. The Kara angle was the most interesting, but the whole Brainiac invasion was just sorta whatever. I guess it was a generic invasion story the same way Injustice 1 was a generic evil-alternate-universe crossover story, but the difference is I still really enjoy a good alternate universe story.

It wasn't bad by any stretch though, don't get me wrong.

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I live in Montana. I'm the man who wrote about the Huckleberries.

I want to express one thing and i've expressed this before on another post. NOBODY IN MONTANA EATS HUCKLEBERRIES!

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@fisk0 said:

@emphulio said:

with all this Destiny 2 talk, I've been watching a lot of this sites content on the first game. Main themes, Dan has never done a raid and the only one Jeff hasn't done is Dark Below's raid. I would loooove to see them do that one. Also with potentially Ben and Vinny trying Destiny, could be a fun time

Yeah, Jeff also said he didn't think anybody would want to see them doing the early hours of Destiny again, but supposedly all that stuff has changed since their launch streams, with the removal of Dinklage and all that. I'd like to see what that thing is now.

After they changed the early game, I went back and created a new character, it's in line with the new expansions, where they have made the story into quests. The expansions, like Dark Below and house of wolves (the first two in year 1) have been made into their own quests. And rise of iron fixed the encrypting. Now every engram you open is almost always higher than your current gear (even blues).

Edit: also when they made the early game into quests, they straight up removed some from the progression.

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What's going on in current-day Montana that's so messed up that the Bombcast are going "This is a great setting for slaughtering all the wildlife and fly around with grenade launchers liberating bandit camps"? I didn't know the US was that rough.

It's not that the whole country's rough - it's that Montana has swaths of wilderness and farmland, with small populations in most locations at best. It's a good place to put an insane group and have crazy stuff going on while justifying why the police or military doesn't just roll in and take them out.

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Good podcast, but I can't believe the crew was asking questions before Brad even opened the floor for questions. Classic "Would You Rather" blunder!!

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Dogtor, D.O.(g). Treating the ruffest illnesses.

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I found that comment about the new Lucio skin insulting. It's amazing.

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@redhotchilimist said:
@skinnersweet said:

Damn 117 hours to finish persona, is that the normal amount of time it takes? I heard it was supposed to be in the mid 60s and I'm currently on hour 30.

Depends on you and what difficulty you play on. I'm a pretty slow player going through on normal and got up to 123 hours while my fairly faster friend went through on the easiest difficulty and did it in like 60.

other point of reference: I'm more or less "seasoned" in persona and it took me just over 140 hours to finish a mostly normal run + hard final boss because I was overleveled

I spent a good deal of time in mementos just listening to podcasts and grinding for some mad $$$

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I don't get the persona 5 hate either but it could be the mario kart syndrome. Your first is the best and you hate the rest lol. Though I think Ben's opinions are fine. Even if I disagree with some of it.

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Good podcast, but I can't believe the crew was asking questions before Brad even opened the floor for questions. Classic "Would You Rather" blunder!!

For sure, most Would You Rather arbiters would detract major points for that.

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That rabbid dressed as peach awoke something dark and terrible in me; I can only hope that I do not change further.

Man, this is probably one of my favorite bombcasts, nothing was particularly standout but the moment to moment was really really good.

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Well Ben, you are wrong! That Lucio outfit is amazing.

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Jeff's love of Striker is amazing. He is one of dozens of Striker fans...DOZENS!

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@zaldar said:

Internet access and internet speed is not a right it is a privilege like any other economic good just like food housing clothes and health care which are also not rights. It will also help to keep out crazy sites that put up stupid crap like fake news as they won't have the money to buy speed. The internet has been a wild west with crazy ridiculous crap rather than information curated by experts who actually know what they are talking about for way to long. Taming time is thankfully neigh.

You must have a lot of faith in these supposed "experts".

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Jeff's love of Striker is amazing. He is one of dozens of Striker fans...DOZENS!

Add me to that list

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Late in following up on this, but re: Ben's comments on Montana huckleberries: when I lived in Montana, I wasn't adverse to consuming huckleberry products or anything, but the strange thing is that I never knew where the huckleberries were actually produced. I live in Maine now, and I know where I can pick blueberries and where the lobster pounds are - but I knew of absolutely no place that grew the Montana huckleberries that were touted as a great state specialty. Googling reveals that they're supposedly grown in the northwest corner of the state (and I lived in the central-westish part), but they're a weird, inaccurate thing to tout as a statewide product.

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Ben's suggested solution for communicating with a rando in a Destiny 2 raid sounds a lot like the chat system from Final Fantasy XI. I've been in many raids with both Japanese players and Europeans from all over the place and it actually worked really well with their set phrases that translate to your language. Of course a twitch-based shooter might not work that well, though some of the later stuff in FFXI required pretty quick reactions and a lot of team coordination as well.

Goddamn, that game was so, so good. And grindy and inscrutable and arcane.

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@emphulio:Destiny -- can you play it single player? I played solo at launch, "beat it", but missed a ton and grinding got insane and tough. With the updates i bought one of the "game of the year"editions... But its sealed. Any reason to go back if I'm solo?

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@squidracerx: One important thing. According to wastedondestiny.com, I have 983h in Destiny, so these are words of someone who likes this game a lot.

I've played this latest release, Rise of Iron, solo a lot. Mainly because I like to do the daily vanguard bounties and mess with the strikes, but my crew prefers the crucible. If you like to gain loot and raise your light level, then yes. The engrams tend to almost always (like 95%) drop higher gear than you have equipped. They removed the ascendent shard and energy items and combined all different class specific armor materials into one currency, so upgrading gear is a lot easier, also infusion is 1 to 1, you can also now buy armor materials and weapon parts from vendors for glimmer. Rise of Iron strikes are really good and from Taken king onward, the story missions are also fun. If you are still hesitant, then you could start a new dude and see the early game progression.

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So no one is going to mention Jeff the yogurt machine?