Unfinished: Quake Champions 04/28/2017

Ooh Quake!

Hmmm. Not sure.

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Noice. For the record, that Blood covenant map is re-imagined campgrounds dm6 from Quake 3. Might even be closer to dm6 pro which popped up late in the Q3A life.

I really enjoyed this game, they really captured that Quake movement so it felt super familiar.

Maybe by the third video our resident quake man will start strafe jumping

Is it just me or is it not fast enough?

Edit: I usually don't get mad a this kind of stuff but this video made me furious. WHY AREN'T YOU BUNNY HOPPING OR STRAFE JUMPING?

I got my beta code the other day but by the time I redeemed the beta weekend was over. Looks like the next Beta weekend might be this weekend?

@stonyman65 I honestly don't want that in this video...

Looks alright I guess. To be honest though if I wanted some Quake action I would just play Quake 3. I don't need nor want any class differences or loot boxes.

@sammo21: I know, I know, I hate to be "that guy" but....Quake is sacred.

They seem pretty down on the game in general. I'm pretty bummed because as a big fan of Quake I want it to be successful.

Still, early days though so things could change.

Btw Anarki's passive doesn't give him extra speed, it just allows him to turn in the air. His active heals him (boosts his speed slightly whilst using it so he can get away as he can't shoot when using it).

Ooooooh, that machine gun sounds good and CHUNKY,

Don't believe them and try it for yourself. It's wonderfully fast and a good mix between Quake World and Quake 3 Arena of old. It's a really good Quake game.

@yates: Er? I'm not sure how "Everything I've heard about this game has been pretty positive" and "This game is pretty good" means that GB is down on the game in general.

Also BRAD IS BAD AT...oh. Ohhhhhh wait.

HIS NAME IS ORBB YOU FUCKS

Edit: at about 44:00 Brad reveals that he remembers Orbb's name. I am sorry for doubting you, Brad.

Oh, this is an Unfinished? I thought it would be a Quake Look.

BOOOOOOOO!

They can't take Quake Live offline because they already did that years ago. They took the master servers offline and gave the community the tools to host their own servers.

@theyear20xx: I've now lost my hype for this.

@theyear20xx: https://youtu.be/1KYuWEaqU9E?t=43s

There's nothing I dislike about this game from what I've played, but there also wasn't anything about it that made me actually want to keep playing it.

I don't remember the name of it originally but Blood Covenant is a classic map.

They basically said it's no better than the other arena shooters out there but has the Quake name on it to so it might have a player base. They also didn't seem to like anything new they added.

It was hardly glowing praise. I came away thinking their impression was that it was ok but they were slightly disappointed by it.

Heh the difference in Brads tone on this game between conversing with Rorie or Jeff is rather amusing.

Gameplay seems fun and I don't mind these "hero" characters in the game, but FUCK that microtransaction bullshit, especially if this is gonna be a full price release, and even more so if they keep this 3 currency horse crap.

I think this looks pretty cool. But I have 0 history with Quake outside of a couple of hours of Quake Live.

...BRAVO sir/madam.

This made me think about the new Unreal Tournament. Is that worth revisiting now? There was nothing bad about (flak canon still felt great), but it was pretty unfinished at the stage when I played it.

Jeff saying that locking the classic skins is a "nasty solution" is kind of lame.

What's up with all the walking in quake champions? Strafe Jump!

I definitely agree on the bland/uninteresting look of the weapons. (Although Quake has never been all that impressive in that regard. UT is usually better with that stuff.)

The fact that they are not recognizable enough is a bigger problem though. And that the sounds are not as impressive. Especially the super nailgun.

I'm still infinitely disappointed in Bethesda/iD for this. First they put out Wolfenstein: The New Order, and it was fucking amazing. Then they came out with DOOM2016, and blew my goddamned balls off.

But Quake? Quake they just poop out an Arena DM game, instead of re-imagining the Lovecraftian future medieval space nightmare campaign that the original was. I want THAT. SO BADLY.

That announcer voice sure is bad! And so much of it too... TEAMS ARE TIED; LEAD LOST; TEAMS ARE TIED...

@stonyman65: The game gets pretty fast once you start bhoping/strafe hoping

@sakr: It's free to play and you buy characters/cosmetics

I agree that there's a super interesting game to be found in a re-imagined singleplayer, but unfortunately that's not what Quake fans want. They want a literal remake of Q3A but also make it better and introduce modern quality-of-life improvements but also leave everything exactly the same as I remember, and it has to have 2 million players online at all times or else it's a dead game and not worth playing.

Arena shooter fans are impossible to please and it bums me out that newer, more interesting takes on the genre are always tossed aside for lame nitpicky reasons.

I can't tell if Jeff's complaints are an actual critique of the game or it just being a case of "it's not Quake 3 Arena".

As someone who put some time into Q3 myself, I'm looking forward to playing this. It's fucking fast, so they at least got that right. Also the hit sound.

Yeah, that all is what Quake Live is for. It's fantastic. DOOM fans also wanted the DOOM2016 DM to not suck if we're going to go with making what the fans wanted. If what I'm seeing of Champions was the DM component of a larger game that also included a Q1-style campaign handled as well as DOOM's, that would pretty much be instant GOTY.

I miss servers.

@paulunga: A lot of it is just "it's not exactly like the thing i liked 20 years ago so fuck it"

As someone who doesn't have nostalgia for Quake 3 but fell in love with Quake Live a few years ago, i think the gameplay is fantastic.

@tomac: I thought they were saying 'if' it's free to play in the QL? If that's the case then fair enough. It just rubs me the wrong way still, if the characters have to be bought rather than also optionally unlocked through grinding as well...

@sakr: I believe you can pay a one time fee to unlock all the characters.

I mean hey, it's a free to play game. They want you to buy stuff. If you wanna play for free you can stick with Ranger and rent other characters for free.

I don't see any reason to play this over QuakeLive to sate my strafe- and rocket-jumping needs. Which reminds me...why wasn't Brad doing strafe jumps? Is there no strafe-jumping in Quake Champions or has Brad been a fake Quake fan all along and doesn't know how to strafe-jump!?! Strafegate.

It's been a while since I launched QuakeLive. Railgun one-hit-kill modes were always my jam, but I think they were behind the paywall in QLive, at least for a while - should check it out and see if I can do some rails today.

They both sound totally uninterested in Unreal Tournament, despite it pretty much being exactly what they want. Mods, Mutators, user-created maps and skins and stuff, as well as the weapon priorities.

@tomac: Yea makes sense, I don't mind micro transactions in free to play games, my Warframe account can attest to that haha. The sight of those three currencies just got me irritated to no end I guess :)

Cool to see Brad really dial in his aim over the course of the video. It was like watching a different person play comparing the start to the end.

the trend where generic fighting game/dota characters show up in every competitive game these days with the same abilities is starting to get a little tired

Just finished watching this.

A new Quake game could be a lot worse. I will say that. - @brad

I rest my case on why they should have gone for a Q1 Campaign over another Q3A rehash.

Which self respecting Quake player displays the weapon skin anyway ;-)?