So I have been having problems with toss. I'm not sure why either. It just seems its really hard to go long game against zerg, and the early game against terran seems too hard. I feel like zerg just has so many options, and can do so much rediculousness. Has anyone made the shift, and how hard is it to do?
 
EDIT: I am protoss and I am Diamond
 
EDIT EDIT: Let this thread die, its not serving a purpose anymore, as I've made my decision.

do a 9 pool

Terran is just harder to play than it was previously, but it's still possible to win. People are just having a hard time adjusting to TvZ now that you can't basically guarantee massive damage with one of like 4 types of harass. You need to start learning how to cut corners and play greedy, then hit your timings. To be honest, terran was way too fucking easy for a long long time, now it's more where it should be.

Just play them a few times, it's not like you can't just go back. 
 
I'd say they are much harder myself, there's so much crap to babysit.

Soo many people seem to have switched to Zerg after the last two GSL's, which really annoys me as someone who has been Z the entire time. Last night in 1v1 ladder I was put into 6 ZvZ in a row.

" @Arkanti: Its not becasue zerg are doing well with the gsl. Hell P did fine in MLG. I just cannnot deal with shit on a personal level, and feel like zerg is so annoying as roach/hydra and muta/ling are hard to deal with. "

" @Arkanti: Its not becasue zerg are doing well with the gsl. Hell P did fine in MLG. I just cannnot deal with shit on a personal level, and feel like zerg is so annoying as roach/hydra and muta/ling are hard to deal with. "

I've been maining Terran since late beta and I'm also hitting the wall with them. I'm having an increasingly hard time racking up any kind of wins without either over macroing in a long battle of attrition or by cheesing the crap out of uneducated opponents. 
 
So I'm going to step away for a bit and maybe come back to see how things are after the next balance patch. But like you I've also been toying with the idea of switching to either Protoss or Zerg in the long run. 
 
But god damn if marines don't just look cooler...and that's what's making it so hard to leave.

I too have been a Terran main, but there's just something about Zerg that keeps me coming back. The main problem I have when I play them is I either have not enough resources, or way too many resources and not enough units. I just have to get my build order down.

I can't speak for the Toss here -- but switching races is definitely quite a tough thing to do. Personally, if I'd switch from Terran to another race, I'd pick Toss, and vice versa. Zerg mechanics are just too complex and require a bit of a different mindset whereas at least Toss and Terran have a few more similarities with each other. I know that Harris tried to switch to Zerg but stopped after a couple weeks and went back to Toss. I find Zerg much harder to play and pick up rather than playing Toss and I think if you really want to switch, switching to Terran is a much better option.  
 
Terran right now is quite solid in terms of a lot of match-ups. I'm comfortable with TvP/Z but my TvT is where it's quite shaky. Obviously mirror match-ups don't really count in terms of balance because it's really all about outplaying your opponent or not making mistakes. Sometimes I've found TvP to be a little stale, but I've found one or two newer builds that can switch it up from simply bio play. 
 
So just deliberate a bit more -- I know there aren't many protoss heroes you can look up to, that might be the main reason why you feel Toss is really difficult to play, and even in the GSL3 there are far more Zergs and Terrans than there are Toss. If you really want to switch to Zerg though, I can always help with TvZ.

I switched from Terran to Zerg mostly because of all the bitching that was thrown at me as Terran and Zerg seemed fun to play.  I played mostly 2v2's and a few custom games with Zerg to get used to them. I was in gold 1v1 with Terran with 50wins and about 35 losses. This morning I just got into dimond with Zerg with 80 wins and around 50 loses. It's been fun playing Zerg mostly because of the speed of their units and they're just a really fun race to play. Also their tactics always seem to be trying to trap opponants which I find fun when it work's well.
 
Even if you don't fully switch, finding out what's beating you playing as Zerg will only make your Protoss play better anyway.

I've been paying Z since the game released an they're a lot of fun but they're def not east to play initially.
Between creep spreaad, vomiting larva and figuring out when to pump drones or army, there's a LOT to deal with an that's on top of everything else.
Maybe its just me but early game z don't seem to have many options.
That being said they are fun to play.

" @sixghost: Yeah I think its because I took a break, and I gotta get back on it. I don't think i'll switch, its just seems that zerg can be so powerful since unit compositions can have radical shifts like from mass roach to mass hydra. "

Sixghost destroyed me last night ;( 
 
But OT, I think Protoss are severely lacking in the late game. I feel out of any of the races, protoss players are probably dying for the next expansion to come out so maybe they can get a new unit or two, because they desperately need it. Its almost like the original SC where Terran didnt have medics until Brood War came out. 
 
You just have to look at the gsl qualifiers to see that protoss is hurting, as they are so underrepresented its pretty sad. I watch tons of pro starcraft footage on youtube, and I've seen Protoss throw away 50 food leads to terran players dozens of times, which imo should never really happen unless youve made a huge mistake in the game.  Another problem with protoss is that expanding is a huge problem for them. While terran have the PF which is basically invincible to ground attacks (which is a bit ridiculous), Protoss have nothing to protect their expansions, except a highly immobile army. Terran can drop around and really put the hurt on protoss. Its weird because Terran are so cost efficient, while protoss really need a lot of resources to produce units, and yet terran have such an easier time expanding.
 
It remains a problem for Blizzard to sort out though, as in low level play (plat and lower) Protoss actually have the highest winning percentage of all the races. Yet on the the higher ups, Protoss have quite a lot of problems.

As for Zerg, I find them incredibly fun to play. Im not very good yet, but theres a couple of really fun tricks they have up their sleve (burrowed banelings, baneling bombs, burrowed roaches, INFESTORS, etc). I definitely enjoy them a lot more than other races. I started playing as protoss though, and would 4 gate the hell out of everyone, and transitioning to zerg is a bit of a jump, but its really worth it imo. 

its the hardest of the possible transitions, but totally worth it

The Zerg mechanics are really hard to grasp your head around until you play a bit more of the game. You need to do babysit a shitload of things with the Zerg though, with the damn hatcheries and queens and creep and whatnot. 
 
I think I'll comfortably stay with Terrain/Protoss.

I'm thinking about switching to Zerg, but I have been thinking about it even before the first GSL. The only reason why I went Terran is because I was the most familiar with it but I have always wanted to play Zerg. I say the hell with it, who cares if you loose your Diamond rank, its not like your gonna go pro, so why not have fun and switch it up. Thats what I think I'm gonna do.

Zerg is a big macro switch from either of the other races thanks to the larva balancing you have to do on top of production/economy. I've tried to play Zerg a couple of times, but unless you can pick up on that change right off the gate, you'll likely come back to Toss.

The answer is always Random man. I main random now, and I'm loving it. I'm bad with all races equally, so I get to play as everyone and the game seems fresher. Just finished too Terran matches, and they're my least favorite. But I sure do love Random.

" @gunslingerNZ: Yeah hydras already have ridiculous DPS that will destroy toss gateway units like no other. They already do amazing dps per cost, they don't need more.  And after some practice games I feel like I'm going to stay toss, but it seems you just can't fuck up. Maybe its the level I'm playing at but if you fuck up you're dead. "

" @tankintheair315 said:

" @gunslingerNZ: Yeah hydras already have ridiculous DPS that will destroy toss gateway units like no other. They already do amazing dps per cost, they don't need more.  And after some practice games I feel like I'm going to stay toss, but it seems you just can't fuck up. Maybe its the level I'm playing at but if you fuck up you're dead. "

Oh god. If Hydras got buffed I'd blow the front of my pants clean off. They're already such a strong unit, if you get good creep spread they tear through Toss gateway and air units like they aren't there. "

I've really wanted to switch to Zerg as well. I've been playing Starcraft (1 & 2) for a long, long time and I've always been in love with the Zerg, but they are just too damn hard for me to play for whatever reason. I'm a ~1300 diamond toss and zerg is just completely foreign to me; I can't manage queens, my hatcheries, creep, overlords, map control and everything all at once without completely failing. 
 
I love my toss, but they just seem so limited... someone else mentioned it in this thread, but they have such a limited potential for harass and can't really put on effective early pressure (they can, but it's especially risky) because the zealot is so damn slow. I want something like a medivac, or a banshee, or a muta, or even ghosts. Plus, Ekaj raped me yesterday with his super-duper EMP timing push which makes me rage and say that EMP is OP (it's basically a storm that does 100% damage instantly and plus the ghost is a templar that can cloak and do regular damage). 
 
I want my reaver back, or I want some damn movable/salvageable static defenses (wtf Blizzard?) 
 
/rant 

Go for it!  This game practically BEGS you to try all three races and find how each piques your interest :-)  Good luck with being Zerg!  I used to love Zerg in the StarCraft & StarCraft Brood War days, but I haven't touched them yet in SC2.  I am still loving the Terrans.

" do a 9 pool "

Im thinking about switching to zerg from terran. terran requires too much micro and multi-tasking which i have a hard time doing. but then again the whole "having to choose whether to make a drone or an army unit" kinda scares me.

I learned quite a lot from watching the Fruit Dealer play. Before, I was occasionally playing with Zerg. Now I mostly play with them. They have some great tactics.