Does it matter how many skillups per level with the cap of 5? I get confused about this. Please explain.

I have no idea, you mean visiting trainers and only being able to buy 5 lessons? Because it's there to prevent you from simply buying your way to a new level up.

What?

You are correct that you can only train 5 times per level . . . I have no idea what you are asking.

I bet it's so you can't start leveling up like crazy from one trainer.

And i don't mean level that skill but your global level.

I'd sure boost my level by buying cheap alchemy levels and such to get another level. hehe

Ahhh I see where you are going with this. Thanks.

I only use trainers when i want to level up a skill i hardly use, like blacksmithing.   It gets expensive to train the higher your skill level is.

Trainers will train you up to 5 times per character level.

It doesn't matter if you are gaining skills on your own. They will always train you 5 times per character level. (There may be a cap, depending on the trainer, though).

I assume that you could even run from trainer to trainer to skill-level up 5 times per trainer, but I've not tested that.

I only use trainers when i want to level up a skill i hardly use, like blacksmithing.  

I don't understand when you reach the different levels of a skill, like you can be a Master at Blacksmithing, where do you see your level of that, and when do you gain the new step?

@Mnemoidian said:

Trainers will train you up to 5 times per character level.

It doesn't matter if you are gaining skills on your own. They will always train you 5 times per character level. (There may be a cap, depending on the trainer, though).

I assume that you could even run from trainer to trainer to skill-level up 5 times per trainer, but I've not tested that.

Pretty sure you only get 5 level ups from a trainers per level. Almost positive I leveled from an archery trainer three times, then was only able to level up two times at a 2H trainer. There is a cap on trainers, the archery trainer I was going to only goes up to 50.

@Flaboere: Open your skill menu, the one with the constellations. There'll be a number for each skill. That's your skill-level. The bar shows how close to leveling it up again you are.

Also, specifically for smithing (and alchemy, enchanting for their respective stations), you can see the bar showing you how close you are to leveling when you are working with a blacksmith's forge, it's down in the bottom right corner of your screen, I believe.

@xobballox: Good to know, wasn't sure on that. Thanks.

@Mnemoidian said:

The bar shows how close to leveling it up again you are.

Didn't know that! I should really RTFM.

It also seems that you can't actually level up through training, from what I've seen. It would appear that after a certain portion of the global level bar is filled, training doesn't increase it for the rest of that level.

@Mnemoidian: Thanks, but I knew about that, what I'm asking is, where do I see wether I'm master level blacksmith? Or is it simply like 1-25 adept, 25-50 expert, 50-75 master or something like that?

@Flaboere: Right, no idea about that. but probably

Not really anything I've put effort into caring about, dunno. Felt like there's been better stuff to spend gold on than leveling skills so far.

Afaik, the levels are Novice, Apprentice, Adept, Expert, Master. But Should be able to use Faendal, etc to figure it out, I guess.

@Flaboere: There is likely a Master Blacksmith, but it'll likely be hard to find him. I'd ask around at the other trainers, see if they know who he might be.

Basically only half your level can come from trainers. Training up too much can be a way of gimping your character if you don't spend some time on your combat skills.

@TheDudeOfGaming said:

@Marz said:

I only use trainers when i want to level up a skill i hardly use, like blacksmithing.

I have only one thing to say to you. Dragon armor. Thank you, that is all.

I'm 78 blacksmithing, so well on my way. However, if I weren't a light armor user, I don't know if I'd be interested. Not crazy about the screen I saw of dragonbone armor.

Isn't the guy in Whiterun who runs the Skyforge the Smithing master trainer? I talked to him a few nights ago but can't remember what level he is.

Shit I spent this whole time thinking they would teach you 5 levels per character, not per level. Back to the trainers for me!

Smithing is the single easiest skill to raise. Why buy points for it? Just go to a dwarven mine, buy a bunch of iron ingots, then make dwarven bows till you can't anymore. Just buy most of the materials from the blacksmith in Winterrun, then sell them back the stuff you make with it to get your money back. They materials they have respawn on them after a certain amount of time, so you can just keep doing this over and over. Again, Dwemer mines are the easiest to actually find materials for smithing. Anything labeled a "scrap" piece can be smelted into ingots.