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Posted by leejunfan83

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Posted by Keithcrash

I love the Minecraft-esque, pixelated retro graphics! Super avant-garde!

Posted by BasketSnake

Nice, another character for my list.

Posted by poser

Coming 2006.

Posted by CairnsyTheBeard

not coming to new consoles? oh dear

Posted by baka_shinji17

We can all agree that Wolfenstein: The New Order has satisfied our need to shoot Nazi robots on the moon. Or is that just me?

Edited by fisk0

@baka_shinji17 said:

We can all agree that Wolfenstein: The New Order has satisfied our need to shoot Nazi robots on the moon. Or is that just me?

Bring forth the Soviet mechs on Mars! (Man, now I really, really want a sequel to the Battlezone FPS/RTS series)

Edited by Corevi

This seems like bad timing considering Wolfenstein just came out. No Xbox One or PS4 is super worrying. Looks pretty good graphically for a last gen game though.

Posted by KenpachiRamaSama

For some reason I actually like that natzis are coming back to shoot. Maybe because world war 2 was supe interesting.

Posted by UltraBoi

Wait, is this a bad joke or is this real?

Posted by Rowr

O fuck yes, time for the return of the ww2 shooter bitches.

Posted by blacklab

Is it too early to craft a love letter to WWII shooters?

Probably

Posted by Professionlol

I love the Minecraft-esque, pixelated retro graphics! Super avant-garde!

lol

Posted by Terjay

So uhhh... What? This looks like some 1999 bargain bin bullshit.

Posted by TotalHell

Hey, let's not exaggerate.

It clearly looks like some 2007 bargain bin shit.

Posted by Eaxis

Sorry Enemy Front but i've been shoot'n, stabb'n, and strangl'n Nazis in Wolfenstein TNO and it was awesome. (this doesn't even seem half as good)

Posted by Ford_Dent

You know I was just saying that WWII would be a great place to set a first person shooter the other day. Surprised nobody's done it before.

Posted by Blackout62

A war correspondent shootin' Nazis in the face... That's not what the boys back home would call proper ethics and standards of journalism. Right, Patrick Klepek?

Posted by Yummylee

He's covered wars, y'know.

Also this game looks really rotten. The character models all have a very 'budget last-gen game from 2009' look to them.

Edited by GunsAreDrawn

Hey, it's bootleg Adam Jensen

Posted by TheManiacsGnome

Guys.... this isn't a full priced game, sweet jesus some of you can be hyper judgmental.

Posted by deadward

It's a real bummer to see people shit all over stuff like this instantly for not having been able to pump hundreds of millions of dollars into art assets. I really wish there was still room for these kind of mid-tier projects to get made more often.

I'm not super pumped about World War II in particular, but I miss this category of game coming out every once in a while.

Posted by T3MPLESMITH

Too long has it been, since we had a decent WWII shooter.

Posted by simkas

@yummylee said:

Also this game looks really rotten. The character models all have a very 'budget last-gen game from 2009' look to them.

Well, that's kind of what it is. City Interactive has always been a pretty low budget FPS developer.

Edited by Yummylee

@simkas said:

@yummylee said:

Also this game looks really rotten. The character models all have a very 'budget last-gen game from 2009' look to them.

Well, that's kind of what it is. City Interactive has always been a pretty low budget FPS developer.

That Alien Rage they did--judging from the QL--looks significantly better than this, though. Maybe not technically, but it at least had some degree of an art style to it, whereas this just looks terribly bland.

Edited by Zabant

@poser said:

Coming 2006.

Well done sir.

Edited by LarryDavis

Yo this is from the guy that made Black so I'll at least give it a shot. Please don't mention Bodycount.

Posted by SomeDeliCook

I'd be interested if it was for PS4, but its not, and I really don't feel like hooking up the old consoles. Wolfenstein has been fucking great and really satisfied that FPS itch I had since the PS4 launched (Killzone was too boring, Battlefield was too broken) but I can definitely go with another decent FPS game. Shame

Posted by RichardQuarisa

Game aside, I thought that was a pretty well made trailer. Props to whoever made it.

Edited by Edraii

@richardquarisa said:

Game aside, I thought that was a pretty well made trailer. Props to whoever made it.

I disagree, you can't make a serious sounding story trailer and throw in multiplayer footage right away. It's very off-putting trying to sell some sort of serious resistance story and then seeing gameplay with point numbers flying about.

That aside, yeah, quite decent.

Posted by whitegreyblack

I actually really like the janky mid-tier stuff and I'm glad that not everything coming out right now is AAA hype-machine stuff. I hope this lands as a solid 6.0-8.0 and then I'll take a look.

Posted by JuggaloAcidman

Finally! The 480p SD remake of Call of Duty 2 we've always never wanted!

Edited by ThatOneDudeNick

Looks kind of janky, but I'm interested in a WW2 game with a good story. I'm not expecting much, but it'll be nice if it's actually interesting.

Posted by Capstan

For all you Who fans out there: Enemy Front, it's a put-on!

Posted by 2HeadedNinja

Yo this is from the guy that made Black so I'll at least give it a shot. Please don't mention Bodycount.

What about Bodycount?

Posted by AssInAss

@yummylee said:

@simkas said:

@yummylee said:

Also this game looks really rotten. The character models all have a very 'budget last-gen game from 2009' look to them.

Well, that's kind of what it is. City Interactive has always been a pretty low budget FPS developer.

That Alien Rage they did--judging from the QL--looks significantly better than this, though. Maybe not technically, but it at least had some degree of an art style to it, whereas this just looks terribly bland.

Alien Rage?! That game looked like budget generic sci-fi UE3 garbage, poor Jeff for even suffering through that for a QL.

Enemy Front looks way better, even has stealth and sniping in it and the levels don't seem as small as Call of Duty 1-3.

Posted by r3d_zombie

absolutely no interest in WW2, that ship sailed long ago.

Posted by LarryDavis
Posted by RichardQuarisa

@edraii said:

@richardquarisa said:

Game aside, I thought that was a pretty well made trailer. Props to whoever made it.

I disagree, you can't make a serious sounding story trailer and throw in multiplayer footage right away. It's very off-putting trying to sell some sort of serious resistance story and then seeing gameplay with point numbers flying about.

That aside, yeah, quite decent.

I actually think including multiplayer footage worked in this scenario. Hopefully without sounding too pretentious, it felt like the story would be told through your moment-to-moment actions, not grandiose cutscenes. There's an argument to be made for the fact that shooting someone across the map, trying to flank another guy, and then getting flanked yourself and chased into a building is itself the most effective story a game could tell - a story purely told through gameplay. I know that sounds super pretentious, and for that I'm sorry.

That aside though I thought the music and dialogue were fairly well written. Nothing revolutionary, but it got me pretty emotional.

Edited by Do_The_Manta_Ray

It's a game about oppression of the european populace, villifying one part of Europe, and painting the others as the victims, and in rides the brave american to save them all.

Sure, it's a small thing to get upset about, but it's such blatant, pandering bullshit.

Before I get started on a real rant as to 'merica's lackluster involvement in WW2, I'll just sign off and say that this game looks kinda' "meh".

Posted by Elwoodan

No joke I would actually play a game where you played as that dude. Stealth gameplay mixed with picture taking mechanics a la pokemon snap or dead rising.

Posted by VincentAvatar

I'm intrigued. I wonder how much time is actually spent taking pictures (like a War Correspondent might) versus killin' Nazis (like a War Correspondent might rarely do).

Posted by Mr_Creeper

@do_the_manta_ray said:

It's a game about oppression of the european populace, villifying one part of Europe, and painting the others as the victims, and in rides the brave american to save them all.

Sure, it's a small thing to get upset about, but it's such blatant, pandering bullshit.

Before I get started on a real rant as to 'merica's lackluster involvement in WW2, I'll just sign off and say that this game looks kinda' "meh".

'Merica.

Posted by DuckHunter

Is it too much to ask for a game that approaches WWII in a serious and historic tone instead of this edgy metro last light masquerading as 'merica nonsense? This just looks like utter garbage.

Edited by XPorter

I think...with the new Wolfenstein, this will not have as big of an impact. It looks like a solid FPS WWII shooter, and we really need another good WWII shooter, but it just does not look as epic as The New Order. Very stylish teaser, but will the actual game play like that. I will give it chance, but I have my doubts. I am not looking for FX and top notch graphics, I am looking for good, well written story and expertly delivered game-play.

Posted by Humanity

It's a game about oppression of the european populace, villifying one part of Europe, and painting the others as the victims, and in rides the brave american to save them all.

Sure, it's a small thing to get upset about, but it's such blatant, pandering bullshit.

Before I get started on a real rant as to 'merica's lackluster involvement in WW2, I'll just sign off and say that this game looks kinda' "meh".

I'm more interested in your thoughts on the American lackluster involvment in WW2 than anything else now. How did history really happen?

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Posted by Pop

I'm kind of looking forward to a WW2 shooter. Haven't played the new Wolfenstein, but I want something like this, I don't why, it will probably be average, but I want to play it god damn it!

Edited by Do_The_Manta_Ray

@humanity: The back-end of history is an ugly thing. To see beyond the looking-glass, you'll need to open your mind to the concept that anything and everything you've ever been told was a lie.

You see, I was there.. Ask yourself how this is possible, but believe that it could be, or you are already lost. But I shall tell my tale, nonetheless. For I remember it well, the city beaten bronze in the setting autumn sun. It wouldn't be the first, or the last time men bled for what glimmered like gold.

Aaaaaand I'm running out of steam real quick here..

Honestly, it's a very large topic, and going through it in detail would be fun to do over a beer or two, not so much throgh a forum post.

To give you the super-short version, US involvement in WW2 was essentially their naval efforts. Their contributions to the war proper in Europe came relatively late, despite that they considered the western theatre their main priority, and yet it was largely irrelevant to the greater outcome of the war. Italy surrendered without as much as a fight, and it was the Russians/Chinese who defeated the infamous Japanese Kwantung Army, and the Russians who broke the back of the German military machine at the cost of a staggering, unbeleliable loss in human lives. The Americans mainly fought against fortified, defensive positions held by the Germans in France and Italy, famous Omaha beach being a perfect example. Now, good men fought and died there and I don't mean to undermine their efforts in any fashion, but it was in a lot of ways unnecessary in the grander scheme of things. It's a truly good thing that they did push onwards, to help liberate the concentration camps if nothing else, but that wasn't the motive. The race for Berlin was just that, an effort to ensure that the soviets would not gain control of the whole of Germany, which is why they ensured Germany stay divided after the war in rejecting the Stalin letter (highly controversial subject on it's own, impossible to say if Stalin would've honoured it). Many believe that also was the main reason for why they bombed Japan, to have them surrender to the Americans as opposed to Soviet friendly forces. A lot of this stuff sounds really horrid and calculated, and you know what? It is.

That said, 'Merica's involvement in the post-war affairs cannot be commended enough, the foremost examples being the Marshall plan, and the Berlin Airlift. We're talking economic miracle-work here, and it is undoubtedly America's finest moment. The fact that they had done similair work after WW1, and were ready to once again aid the restoration of the German economy borders on saintly.

To return to the orignal topic, so many of these games about WW2 (most of which are ironically made where?) tend to paint the Americans as the heroes in this conflict. It's unjustified. If there are any heroes in this conflict, then it's the Polacks (they fucking rode out their cavelry against the oncoming tanks even when all was lost, holding on to the promise of the coming help from the English. Which never happened as it were), as well as any that helped harbour fugitives. Additionally, there's good chance that the US wouldn't even have entered the war if it weren't for Pearl Harbour, humanitarian reasons and their allies deep involvement in the war be damned. That said, America definitely were the heroes after the war. Except for their treatment of American-Japanese, which was a bizarre parallel to the Nazi mindset.

So, there, that's why I don't like having Europe painted as everything from monster to victim and have the Americans stylized as their saviours. It's undeserved, pandering and more than a little silly. Americans did their part, as did everyone else.

Edit: Super-short version. I stand by that statement.

Edited by Humanity

@do_the_manta_ray: Thanks for the interesting read! Having Polish 'ancestors' I can tell you that on one hand they greatly valued all the American efforts in the war - my grandfather recounted how American soldiers liberated him and his men from a German camp and offered all the starving people their chocolate bars (which was incidentally a really bad move.) Also all the logistical support in the form of equipment and money that the US provided throughout the war. On the other hand they resented how the US, France and England basically handed off their country to the Russians, forcing Poland into years of unwanted communism.

Of course the war can be viewed through many prisms. To this day I think that Hiroshima and Nagasaki are incredible war crimes that almost no one holds against the US. It was an extremely calculated move that killed so many innocent civilians. Alas!

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