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Posted by Intrepid

Was never a big fan of Daisoujou (I think Alice is cooler), but Samsara is the ultimate light spell in the game and it can't be inherited.  So I'd say you stumbled on a pretty cool skill.

Edited by FluxWaveZ
@Insectecutor: Yeah, I know but he said that they should go back to the 9th floor if they lose against the boss, and if the boss was farther they wouldn't go to the 9th floor, but whatever other floor would precede the boss one.
Posted by JoeOE18

I don't know about everyone else, but I think it would be kind of cool for them to level up the B-Team. Even if it's completely pointless. I have no idea why I think this however.

Posted by Ventilator
@FluxWaveZ: 
 
@FluxWaveZ said:
" @Ventilator said:
"How long do you plan on keeping up with your "It is casting fire so maybe ice is the weakness?" logic, I mean, has it ever worked? :D "
I don't think they have kept that mentality.  They cast lightning on a rock so I think they just test everything now without thinking too much about it.  And anyways, you have to test all elements to see if the enemy is weak anyways so it doesn't matter. "
 
 

Vinny totally said "Maybe ice" at 7:20 after seeing that the enemy does fire, so yes, they still have that mentality. :)
Posted by Darkstar614

oh man, Makarakarn gone, what a horrible choice. Though not that there's anyway they could of know that it is godly against this boss.
 
Also grinding up the B-team doesn't take that long, they get bonus exp for fighting stuff that is higher level. Just throw in 1 or 2 for 9th paradise and they'll be back in action.

Posted by FluxWaveZ
@Ventilator said:
" @FluxWaveZ: 
 
@FluxWaveZ said:
" @Ventilator said:
"How long do you plan on keeping up with your "It is casting fire so maybe ice is the weakness?" logic, I mean, has it ever worked? :D "
I don't think they have kept that mentality.  They cast lightning on a rock so I think they just test everything now without thinking too much about it.  And anyways, you have to test all elements to see if the enemy is weak anyways so it doesn't matter. "
 
 

Vinny totally said "Maybe ice" at 7:20 after seeing that the enemy does fire, so yes, they still have that mentality. :) "
Right.  But you have to try anyways because how will you know if you don't?  If there's the slightest hint then go for it because you have nothing to lose.
Posted by Castro
@Scarabus said:
" Jeff is sounding less and less enthusiastic with every new episode. "
I don't know if that's the case. I could be totally wrong, but it seemed like they were both kind of upset at Nanako getting taken. I'm sure that Vinny and Jeff both want to see what's going to happen next so it's all good. I could be wrong though. I was pissed when they went to Naoto's dungeon when they could have been rescuing Nanako. Maybe you're right. Maybe they aren't that into it. I don't buy it though. They would HAVE to be curious. Right?
 
Also, I've never played the game before but I can't wait to see what happens in December. Also, Persona 4 is rad. When Persona 5 comes out on PS3, I will purchase... a PS3. Done deal.
Posted by FrenchFriedFool

*Obligatory reminder to pull out Tam Lin so you get Enduring Soul*

Posted by Metroid545

don't worry about the boss, he bgins just using normal attacks, (Gods hand) (megidolaon) but around 2/3 hp he will start analzing you guys and than hitting your weaknesses so cover them. At 1/3 hp is a surprise but just be prepared with healing items!

Posted by Hyuzen

Jeff, i like the cut of your jib. send in the B team to the void quest or strip club and pump them up.

Posted by firehawk12

B team levelling!!!!!!!!
Posted by Sarumarine

Daisoujou? Nice Persona. Trying to get into Iron Maiden or something?
 
As for next episode . . . I'm hoping for a boss fight.

Edited by Creamypies

Endurance Run: Persona 4 - Part 124?
 
What's with the extravogent name guys? Are we starting a new ER while this is still running?
 
EDIT: Oh wait, I see all of the names have been changed.

Posted by BenderUnit22

Forget about Kanji and Teddy, they're a lost cause. Decide on Naoto or Chie now, don't switch around all the time or you'll end up with 2 underleveled characters.

Posted by FluxWaveZ
@Hyuzen said:
"Jeff, i like the cut of your jib. send in the B team to the void quest or strip club and pump them up. "
It would be faster leveling if they returned to the first floor of Heaven and trained there if that's what they want to do.  Way more EXP/cash and Charlie's powerful enough to solo those shadows.
Posted by endaround
@BenderUnit22:  
EXP scales and scales big time.  You never end up with underleveled characters.  The most diffence between the MC who is in every battle and others who get switched out  is like 2-3 levels and after the final skill aquisiton it isn't a big deal. 
Edited by monkie89

They really need to get rid of Rangda. She has had nothing left to learn for a long time and her lightning is weak - hell, she doesn't even have a Mazio spell. Do more fusing and get powerful Personas...
 
Makarakarn can be extremely useful too. And Cerberus was only 4000 EXP away from learning Fire Amp...
 
Leveling up the B-team at this point would be pretty pointless, but if you really wanted to you can swap them in and go into Heaven. Get the player advantage on every fight and rely on weaknesses to knock the enemies down. If Charlie can cast every type of spell then it wouldn't be much of a problem, you'll just NEED the advantage. The EXP scales as well, Charlie may be getting 2000 or so from these fights, but Kanji would get TONS more.

Posted by MatthewMeadows

- To Vinny or Jeff - 
 
Don't wanna be "that guy" but I don't think you'll beat the boss as is. Chie isn't a high enough level and Yukiko hasn't learnt Mediarahan. You'd be wiser just hunkering down and grinding a few levels on Floor 8/9 for an hour or two. 
 
Good luck.

Posted by FluxWaveZ
@monkie89: Cerberus' magic stat. wasn't that high anyways, but yeah, they just keep Rangda in for her weak Zionga and repel physical.  They should fuse Rangda and try to inherit the repel physical.
Posted by crazypuppy

You forgot to unequipped Naoto armor and replace it with Chie armor.
 
Who cares about the B team :-p. You already have a good healer, a good magic dealer and a good attacker. I say stick with the A team.

Posted by ArcticDonkey

Chie's last few skills make her AWESOME so please leave her in.
Edited by wflanery

Kanji and Teddie will level up really quickly fighting higher level guys, just take them to the 1st Paradise (when you leave you can still enter at the 10th Paradise).
 
edit: Plus, Kanji has an awesome follow-up attack (crit to all).

Posted by Slaneesh
@Wright said:
"is kanji REALLY happy? "

Yes im wondering that to
Posted by FluxWaveZ
@wflanery said:
"Kanji and Teddie will level up really quickly fighting higher level guys, just take them to the 1st Paradise (when you leave you can still enter at the 10th Paradise).  edit: Plus, Kanji has an awesome follow-up attack (crit to all). "
This.  But I do think they should finish the boss fight first because at this point it won't matter too much.  But if they did do it they would probably have an easier time.
Posted by drew327

If you want the ER to go even longer, level up some of the other dudes.  
 
I did the entire game with chie/yosuke/yukiko and had no problem.  I made Chie a bit more useful by giving her a HP +30% item and she had around 700 HP, then she would do power charge, or just lots of physical skills.  With a maxed S.link, she will "endure a mortal blow".  So, you can run her HP really low, and any enemy attack will still only put her at 1 hp.  Then just complete heal her.

Posted by funkpanda

Please dont waste time leveling up characters you WONT use. There is NO point at ALL to it. Just wastes your time.

Posted by Lakigo

please fight the boss tml...i am sure you can still win even though it might be a bit of a challenge at your lvl

Edited by legendary1

Hint for next boss: Its ALL about dishing out as much elemental damage as you can. So Chie and Naoto are both pretty much equally bad. Teddie does as good as Yosuke/Yukiko and Kanji is still decent, but you would have to spend 2 or 3 floors leveling them up again.
 
Overall, sadly Chie is one of the weakest characters against bosses  in terms of total damage. Naoto can do decently with the Almighty skills, but her SP is toast without the Half-SP cost item you get from the bonus boss of this dungeon. Kanji is in a similar situation as Naoto. Yukiko/Teddie/Yosuke are the overall top characters, though the game is still easily completable even on hard mode with the weaker ones.

Posted by Kowbrainz

i'm going to be pretty bummed if they decide to do a grind ep with the B team tomorrow and make us wait for the boss over the weekend... ._.

Posted by HT101

Great episode and I'm not sure they realized that they made another persona that they need for Trumpeter.  Keep up the good work.

Edited by Ham08

I vote for going in and trying your luck on the boss.  Difficult fights are always more fun to watch ( Remember when you beat Yukiko's shadow, against all odds?  That was awesome!  Remember when the Contrarian King wiped your whole party?  That was hilarious!  Plus it gives us something to talk about. ).   If you lose, you lose.  No biggy.  At least you'll find out if you really need to grind or not.

On the other hand, if you decide to be cautious, I'd say a good level would be around 65 for this boss.

Posted by FluxWaveZ
@HT101 said:
"Great episode and I'm not sure they realized that they made another persona that they need for Trumpeter.  Keep up the good work. "
Yeah, I think they now have all the Personae they need to fuse a Trumpeter.  All they need now is to be level 67.
Edited by stallion74

the ideal level for this boss is 67 along with a well fused Trumpeter...but it's possible to beat him at lower levels too just don't forget to use buffs and de-buffs...and items like diamond shield and assault signal although i don't know if u have those at this point...oh and something else...for anyone who has not played this game and intends to,the Margaret(Empress) social link and her requests help the gamer immensely because she suggests crucial Persona fusions especially towards the maximize of this link...

Posted by MeatSim

If they ever get Samsara that's gonna be a hell of a spell.

Posted by sixghost

I thought I saw a Thor available towards the end in the fusing part. I have no idea what that is but judging by the amount of times it was quoted in the last weeks comments, it seems important.

Posted by Grillbar
@FluxWaveZ:
well all dungeon end bosses were on lvl 10 (mayb not all but pretty close) 
so i think thats why, + he is running a game at home and i think he is about the same spot or mayb a little further
Posted by Gahzoo
@legendary1 said:
" Hint for next boss: Its ALL about dishing out as much elemental damage as you can. So Chie and Naoto are both pretty much equally bad. Teddie does as good as Yosuke/Yukiko and Kanji is still decent, but you would have to spend 2 or 3 floors leveling them up again.  Overall, sadly Chie is one of the weakest characters against bosses  in terms of total damage. Naoto can do decently with the Almighty skills, but her SP is toast without the Half-SP cost item you get from the bonus boss of this dungeon. Kanji is in a similar situation as Naoto. Yukiko/Teddie/Yosuke are the overall top characters, though the game is still easily completable even on hard mode with the weaker ones. "
Power Charge + God Hand would like a word with you.
 
Now Naoto is bad Vs. Bosses because most of them are resistant to Almighty, and SP.
Edited by legendary1
@Gahzoo said:

" @legendary1 said:

" Hint for next boss: Its ALL about dishing out as much elemental damage as you can. So Chie and Naoto are both pretty much equally bad. Teddie does as good as Yosuke/Yukiko and Kanji is still decent, but you would have to spend 2 or 3 floors leveling them up again.  Overall, sadly Chie is one of the weakest characters against bosses  in terms of total damage. Naoto can do decently with the Almighty skills, but her SP is toast without the Half-SP cost item you get from the bonus boss of this dungeon. Kanji is in a similar situation as Naoto. Yukiko/Teddie/Yosuke are the overall top characters, though the game is still easily completable even on hard mode with the weaker ones. "

Power Charge + God Hand would like a word with you.  Now Naoto is bad Vs. Bosses because most of them are resistant to Almighty, and SP. "
God hand is actually rather weak. Testing against the final boss, Chie does 350 damage power charged, while Yosuke/Yukiko both do about 300 damage with a single turn of elemdyne + amp + 50% accessory.  Kanji will probably do a bit less and drains his SP a lot more, but still better damage. Naoto's Megidoloan does about 450 mind charged, again you need that half SP item to spam it, but then you are golden.
Posted by Rasgueado

My advice to the investigation team: decide now if you want to go all the way for the true ending or not. It will take you a little more time to do that...

Posted by iamthemoneyj

Sorry, but I don't think you're ready for the boss...

Posted by BenderUnit22
@endaround: I know, but Chie and Naoto are still gonna lag behind by a margin if they keep switching all the time. Especially when they constantly complain that Chie starts to suck - that God's Hand isn't gonna come any faster if she keeps sitting on the side lines.
Posted by CitizenKane

I can't wait for the boss fight tomorrow.  I always love those, partly because it means it's going to be a long episode.  :)

Posted by EmperorSeth

Oh, and I noticed you stopped with the big honking number on the title image.  Thanks for that; I have no idea why you even started it.

Posted by YoungDetective

TMBG REFERENCE YAY

Posted by PeasForFees
@CitizenKane said:
" I can't wait for the boss fight tomorrow.  I always love those, partly because it means it's going to be a long episode.  :) "
Great to see you taking an active liking to the endurance run :)
Posted by AuthenticM
@Scarabus said:
" Jeff is sounding less and less enthusiastic with every new episode. "
Probably because some fuck spoiled him the ending with that P4 comic.
Posted by Tuggah

T-Shirt Idea:
Picture of Daisoujou with his bell and underneath him "When I ring the bell, you go to hell"
 
C'mon. Do it!

Posted by gamermatt8

No! They did it, they really did it. 
 
I think you guys will come to regret changing Makarakarn. It is EXTREMELY useful for the boss fight of this dungeon. I fought the boss of this dungeon the other day on expert mode and it was pretty much thanks to Makarakarn that i won.
Posted by Drauglim

If you start on floor one again it will NOT  reset you to a lower level, you will still be able to jump in at the boss.

Posted by CitizenKane
@PeasForFees said:
" @CitizenKane said:
" I can't wait for the boss fight tomorrow.  I always love those, partly because it means it's going to be a long episode.  :) "
Great to see you taking an active liking to the endurance run :) "
I didn't watch an episode before my marathon to #100.  Since then, I have been hooked.  :)
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