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Endurance Run

Endurance Run: Persona 4 - Part 124

Allow Makarakarn to change? Heck! I don't know, where's Chie?

Vinny and Jeff sit down and take a crack at the latest game in the Shin Megami Tensei series. Will they make it through the entire game?

Aug. 6 2009

Cast: Jeff, Vinny

Posted by: Vinny

164 Comments

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Aww snap! Fuse time!

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I have this bad feeling that they will get to the door to the boss on Friday and end the video there.

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I love the smell of Endurance Run in the morning.

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Can't wait. I finally passed them.

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Just a couple more hours till Persona time!

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Dammit! I found the page. Now I'm going to be refreshing this until it's up!

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^ for the record upload time is always the same (6am PDT? not sure what the timezone is called, I'm in Aus) aside from times when there's compression errors or that one time this week when they did it live.

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Yeah, always seems to go up at about 9pm in western australia. :D Part of my nightly rituals now.

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We need more fusion episodes!
 
They're so awesome.

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Alright!  ER/coffee run!  I'm looking forward to Friday's epic ER.

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@Vamino: oh cool, nice to know there's other people in WA watching. :]
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@Vlaphor said:

"I have this bad feeling that they will get to the door to the boss on Friday and end the video there. "

I kind of doubt that... 
 
Edit: NVM, I forgot they were at 8th Paradise.
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Oh hey, they got rid of the obtrusive numbers! 
 
Also I'm glad to see they're fusing a Daisoujou; I just fused one of those bad boys in Persona 3 yesterday!

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Can't wait to see this one, streaming now ;)
 
And another shameless advertisement for the guide I wrote regarding how to get the different endings in Persona 4: http://www.giantbomb.com/guides/true-ending-guide-warning-spoilers/1283/
 
BE WARNED, IT CONTAINS SPOILERS, WATCH AT YOUR OWN RISK.

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Gonna watch this later, but I hope Makarakarn changes into Victory Cry, that'll make the rest of the Endurance Run go a lot faster!

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Gasp, Jeff wants to go grinding :o

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@TigerDX said:
"Gonna watch this later, but I hope Makarakarn changes into Victory Cry, that'll make the rest of the Endurance Run go a lot faster! "
I don't think abilities can change in Persona 4.  That was only a Persona 3 thing.
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Jeff is sounding less and less enthusiastic with every new episode.

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@FluxWaveZ: The abilities can change on certain days. It will tell you if its a Skill Change day
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@Scarabus said:
" Jeff is sounding less and less enthusiastic with every new episode. "
Yeah that really sucks.  It feels like they're just playing now because they feel they have to.
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@MiserableGerm said:
" @FluxWaveZ: The abilities can change on certain days. It will tell you if its a Skill Change day "
Oh, right!  Also forgot about how the Fusion Forecast can change skills.  XP
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@Scarabus said:

" Jeff is sounding less and less enthusiastic with every new episode. "

They're in grind mode.  And grind mode is kind of soul-sucking.  Yesterday was my day off so I spent the whole thing playing Persona 3, and I ended up fucking grinded for, like, seven hours, maybe more!  Grinding really sucks! 
 
But it could also be that they know they're getting near the ending and they don't want it to end... :(
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"Aha, is this our chance?" never gets old.

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The guys have been playing for 75+ hours, you can't really blame them for losing some of the initial enthusiasm.

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@iAmJohn said:
But it could also be that they know they're getting near the ending and they don't want it to end... :( "
 
Let's hope that Persona 5 is not too far off in the near future for a sequal to Endurance Run. ;)
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You can always enter at the topmost floor you arrived at.  This only resets when you finish the dungeon and when the person gets better in the real world after they are rescued.

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Dammit, I don't always want to bring this crap up but, at approximately the 10:30 mark when Vinny says that they shouldn't be passing floors so rapidly and Jeff says when they lose to the boss they can go back to grind to the 9th floor, does that mean that he knew that the dungeon ended at Paradise 10?  Or is it because of the mid-boss... 
 
...I guess it's really not that important anyways.  I gotta stop overanalyzing shit.
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@FluxWaveZ said:
" Dammit, I don't always want to bring this crap up but, at approximately the 10:30 mark when Vinny says that they shouldn't be passing floors so rapidly and Jeff says when they lose to the boss they can go back to grind to the 9th floor, does that mean that he knew that the dungeon ended at Paradise 10?  Or is it because of the mid-boss...  ...I guess it's really not that important anyways.  I gotta stop overanalyzing shit. "
When almost every dungeon in the game is ten floors, it's not so hard to expect that this dungeon is probably going to be the same.
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@Scarabus said:
" Jeff is sounding less and less enthusiastic with every new episode. "
As mentioned, it's more just out of the Grinding involved. They're usually less enthusiastic about either this, Fusing or hanging out with the bummer Social Links  (Yumi, Rise, Naoki, Hisano, etc.).
 
When the plot progresses (and it's very close to the climax) they'll be way more pumped.
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@moji22 said:
" "Aha, is this our chance?" never gets old. "
Same for me.  I still have a little laugh every time I hear it.
 
Also, I couldn't tell if Jeff was just joking and winding Vinny up by suggesting to grind with the B-team.  I assumed he was but then I wasn't sure.
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@PeZ said:

" The guys have been playing for 75+ hours, you can't really blame them for losing some of the initial enthusiasm. "

Nope, I can't blame them.  It's understandable but it still kind of sucks some of the life out of the Endurance Run.  Hopefully finishing up a dungeon will perk them back up.
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@iAmJohn:  Really?  I guess I didn't pay too much attention to that...
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@FluxWaveZ: 
 
Jeff knows there are 10 floors in Heaven because there is always a save point on final floor just like other previous dungeons.So,no surprise.
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Most of the Social Links are not available until you rescue Nanoko, I believe.  Correct me if I am wrong.

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You passed on  The Whore of Babylon!?

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@Ham08: 
 
You are not wrong but that case applies to investigation team members only.Other SLs are still available.
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Kind of a boring episode but hey, the next one will probably involve them beating this dungeon so...high hopes for tomorrow.

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Watching these really helps with playing the game, cause they make all the mistakes so you dont have to. 
Im 17hrs in and ive just done Rise's dungeon...i feel like im powering through it. 
Kinda sad in a way.

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Daisoujou is awesome but in P4 it takes forever to get Samarasa(which is worth it especially if you get the half SP cost item).  You're at max SL and are still 2 levels away though which is like 80,000+ EXP away.  At about 2000 per battle it will take along time which is why getting growth on him is important if you can.  You're better off refusing him on a bonus EXP day if you really want it.  He still is a killing maching with hama boost. 
 
As to going back to earlier dungeons, you can if you want.  If you star at the last level of the lab and work backwards you'll get decent EXP and tons of money. 
 
If you just want to finish Nanako's dungeon stay  out until the next rainy day which is like Friday.  SLs are still important.

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@amino: He said it before he reached the 10th floor, the floor with the save point.  That's what I was saying.
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@FluxWaveZ said:

" Dammit, I don't always want to bring this crap up but, at approximately the 10:30 mark when Vinny says that they shouldn't be passing floors so rapidly and Jeff says when they lose to the boss they can go back to grind to the 9th floor, does that mean that he knew that the dungeon ended at Paradise 10?  Or is it because of the mid-boss...  ...I guess it's really not that important anyways.  I gotta stop overanalyzing shit. "

Err I think the boss is on the 10th floor in every other dungeon in the game.
Edit: wait I'm wrong.
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is kanji REALLY happy?

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You guys are slacking of. Don't try to skip floors as fast as possible. This dungeon generates a lot of xp and you'll really need it later on. Just clear out every floor like you used to do. 
 
Oh and don't level up your B team. This far into the game it is pointless.  

Also, don't switch out Chie again; stick with a fixed party.
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Hey guys, just to answer your question, starting on the 1st floor does NOT reset the dungeon.  The only thing that resets a dungeon is beating its main boss at the top floor.  So if you went in to save Nanako, that would reset the dungeon, presumably to make the bonus boss more of an effort.  If you brought in the B team, that would be no problem.  But you might want to keep Chie in since her end-game is so good and she and Naoto are about the same level anyway.
 
Also, a reminder; bring out at least one dude with a "dyne" spell in all four elements.  And keep Black Frost or Rangda out as you'll need someone with a lot of resistances for parts of the boss.
 
Oh, and normally, when  a dungeon isn't finished, your regular party members will only be available half as often for S.LInk time.  That's not true for this dungeon!  Unless I'm mistaken, they won't show up EVER until the dungeon is finished.  You know, it being Nanako and all.

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@Insectecutor: I don't think so...  At least not Yukiko's dungeon, but the rest are?  Man, if that's the case I severely overlooked this aspect.
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How long do you plan on keeping up with your "It is casting fire so maybe ice is the weakness?" logic, I mean, has it ever worked? :D

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Can't wait for the boss... tommorrow?

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This next boss fight is going to be great...

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@FluxWaveZ said:
" @Insectecutor: I don't think so...  At least not Yukiko's dungeon, but the rest are?  Man, if that's the case I severely overlooked this aspect. "
No, I'm an idiot. I think he knew it was the boss because Vinny was saying it looked like it could be the boss on the 9th floor final door, and when that door was opened it was all crazy rainbows. Also, he didn't explicitly say the boss would be on the next floor he just said "when we lose to this boss", i.e. the boss of this dungeon.
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@Ventilator said:
"How long do you plan on keeping up with your "It is casting fire so maybe ice is the weakness?" logic, I mean, has it ever worked? :D "
I don't think they have kept that mentality.  They cast lightning on a rock so I think they just test everything now without thinking too much about it.  And anyways, you have to test all elements to see if the enemy is weak anyways so it doesn't matter.