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Posted by Erik

DUDER, no video. This will be awesome.

Posted by Jerr

SECOND POST!

Posted by PLWolf

Video Review!! hehe
I'm gonna go play more Forza 2. I gots no monies. :(

Posted by skidd

Im liking the amount of video reviews over the past few days, always entertaining to watch.

Posted by Blair

Finally, a review that people aren't going ballistic over.

Posted by Xander

Looks slick.

Posted by Frumpy

It looks too Arcadey, Gran Turismo 5:The Real Driving Simulator is what I'd rather play tbh.

Posted by eroticfishcake

More content is better content.

Posted by FlipperDesert

I want this so bad. :(

Posted by Kohe321

Awesome review!

Posted by WinterSnowblind
@Frumpy said:
" It looks too Arcadey, Gran Turismo 5:The Real Driving Simulator is what I'd rather play tbh. "
Perhaps you should try actually playing the game then?
 
In my opinion, Gran Turismo shouldn't be allowed to use the title "real driving simulator" anymore, because Forza is far more realistic and offers a lot tuning and customisation options.  But well done, we at least managed to go 5 posts before someone brought up GT.
Posted by Frumpy
@WinterSnowblind said:
" @Frumpy said:
" It looks too Arcadey, Gran Turismo 5:The Real Driving Simulator is what I'd rather play tbh. "
Perhaps you should try actually playing the game then?  In my opinion, Gran Turismo shouldn't be allowed to use the title "real driving simulator" anymore, because Forza is far more realistic and offers a lot tuning and customisation options.  But well done, we at least managed to go 5 posts before someone brought up GT. "
How is a Rewind button more realistic, if you crash in real life there's no rewind button.
 
Anyways, like I said, I'm going to put my $300 towards a driving wheel+GT5:The Real Driving Simulator when it comes out.
Posted by Agent_Lost

lol, a pink Hello kitty F40

Posted by MattBodega

Man! That hello kitty skin is Badass!
Man, the Giant Bomb video reviews are so great,

Posted by JoelTGM

good job on all the video reviews. 

Posted by Torben

Hello Kitty? ... bahahahahaha!!!

Get the t-shirt and you will own for life man!

Posted by WinterSnowblind
@Frumpy said:
" @WinterSnowblind said:
" @Frumpy said:
" It looks too Arcadey, Gran Turismo 5:The Real Driving Simulator is what I'd rather play tbh. "
Perhaps you should try actually playing the game then?  In my opinion, Gran Turismo shouldn't be allowed to use the title "real driving simulator" anymore, because Forza is far more realistic and offers a lot tuning and customisation options.  But well done, we at least managed to go 5 posts before someone brought up GT. "
How is a Rewind button more realistic, if you crash in real life there's no rewind button.  Anyways, like I said, I'm going to put my $300 towards a driving wheel+GT5:The Real Driving Simulator when it comes out. "
There are options and assists to make the game easier to play for the more casual audiance.  Not everyone who buys games wants a 100% realistic experience, and I think you'll find Gran Turismo also has a number of assist options you can turn off.
 
I meant the core driving mechanics in Forza are more realistic.  Rewind can be used if you screw up in an endurance race and don't feel like repeating the entire race again.  I think it's a great options to help teach newer players how to play the game, instead of getting frustrated and throwing the controller away, they can simply go back and see what they did wrong.
 
However, doing so will mark your time on the leaderboard as uncertified.  If you're worried about "noobs screwing up the game".
Posted by CactusWolf

I'll probably end up buying this. Looks great.
 
I need something to hold me over until GT5 in March. :\

Posted by MGSolid86

The amount of video reviews and quick looks you've put up over the past two weeks or so is AMAZING!  Keep up the great work guys.  I just pre-ordered the limited collector's edition of this game today!

Posted by Rio
@Frumpy: Because you have to use the rewind button?  Sometimes I just dont get people's logic.  Its not like your hotlap times go up on the same leaderboard when you rewind, and you cant use it online so why does it matter?  Use it if you want or dont, god forbid people play a game the way they want to and have fun with it.
Edited by morphinekiss

Hello Kitty FTW.
 
Can't wait for this and DJ Hero.
 
Really liking the constant stream of video content from Giant Bomb, I'm hoping to see great video reviews on Borderlands and DJ Hero.
 
@Frumpy said:

" It looks too Arcadey, Gran Turismo 5:The Real Driving Simulator is what I'd rather play tbh. "


Have you seen the customization options in Forza? Also, I think we've all been in situations where it's nearing the end of an endurance race, wreck, and never want to do that race again. The rewind feature isn't to make it less realistic, it's to make it more accessible to people. I have to agree with Jeff, if I screwed up on lap 39 of 40, I wouldn't want to pick up the controller for a while or do that race again just because of 1 mistake.
 
Woot, saw the Imprezas in there.
Posted by Frumpy
@WinterSnowblind said:
" @Frumpy said:
" @WinterSnowblind said:
" @Frumpy said:
" It looks too Arcadey, Gran Turismo 5:The Real Driving Simulator is what I'd rather play tbh. "
Perhaps you should try actually playing the game then?  In my opinion, Gran Turismo shouldn't be allowed to use the title "real driving simulator" anymore, because Forza is far more realistic and offers a lot tuning and customisation options.  But well done, we at least managed to go 5 posts before someone brought up GT. "
How is a Rewind button more realistic, if you crash in real life there's no rewind button.  Anyways, like I said, I'm going to put my $300 towards a driving wheel+GT5:The Real Driving Simulator when it comes out. "
There are options and assists to make the game easier to play for the more casual audiance.  Not everyone who buys games wants a 100% realistic experience, and I think you'll find Gran Turismo also has a number of assist options you can turn off.  I meant the core driving mechanics in Forza are more realistic.  Rewind can be used if you screw up in an endurance race and don't feel like repeating the entire race again.  I think it's a great options to help teach newer players how to play the game, instead of getting frustrated and throwing the controller away, they can simply go back and see what they did wrong.  However, doing so will mark your time on the leaderboard as uncertified.  If you're worried about "noobs screwing up the game". "
Options and assists=Arcade. If Gran Turismo 5:The Real Driving Simulator also has the same 'options' and 'assists', it will be an Arcadey game too.
 
But it also has Nascar, WRC, 1000 cars, 80 tracks, new physics engine, dynamic weather racing, much better graphics, support for more driving wheels, and a lot more. So that's why I'd rather invest my time and money into GT5.
 
Plus it will have like a Zillion more players than Forza 3, so the Online mode will always be healthier.
Edited by Evilsbane
@Frumpy said:

" How is a Rewind button more realistic, if you crash in real life there's no rewind button.  Anyways, like I said, I'm going to put my $300 towards a driving wheel+GT5:The Real Driving Simulator when it comes out. "

Ok you don't have to use the Rewind button and people like you wouldn't because it would affect your leaderboard spot so you still have the same difficultly so the rewind button does not make this game any less of a sim.
Posted by natetodamax
@Frumpy: It's a video game.
Posted by eXists

Good review! Can't wait for this game and the seat that's coming with it... yeah baby!
Posted by Frumpy
@Rio said:
" @Frumpy: Because you have to use the rewind button?  Sometimes I just dont get people's logic.  Its not like your hotlap times go up on the same leaderboard when you rewind, and you cant use it online so why does it matter?  Use it if you want or dont, god forbid people play a game the way they want to and have fun with it. "
I don't want a Rewind button in a driving S-I-M-U-L-A-T-O-R, in an Arcade game?Sure, I'd love a Rewind button in Burnout.
 
Like I said, GT5:The Real Driving Simulator is where I will be spending my money. If for some reason I want another Arcadey racing game(Already have Burnout, Pure, NFS, etc) then I'll rent Forza.
Posted by Frumpy
@morphinekiss said:
" Hello Kitty FTW.
 
Can't wait for this and DJ Hero.
 
Really liking the constant stream of video content from Giant Bomb, I'm hoping to see great video reviews on Borderlands and DJ Hero.
 
@Frumpy said:

" It looks too Arcadey, Gran Turismo 5:The Real Driving Simulator is what I'd rather play tbh. "

Have you seen the customization options in Forza? Also, I think we've all been in situations where it's nearing the end of an endurance race, wreck, and never want to do that race again. The rewind feature isn't to make it less realistic, it's to make it more accessible to people. I have to agree with Jeff, if I screwed up on lap 39 of 40, I wouldn't want to pick up the controller for a while or do that race again just because of 1 mistake.  Woot, saw the Imprezas in there. "
Cosmetic Customization=/=Simulation. 
 
I want to race, not paint Hello Kitty on my Ferrari.
Posted by dagas

Only one week until release in EU. It will be awesome! I have my limited edition pre-ordered and ready to go! The only thing I wish Forza did was crazy historical cars like GT. It's not essential, but being able to drive a bunch of old cars is pretty fun. However the pros outweighs the cons by a lot.

Posted by morphinekiss
@Frumpy: Cosmetics =/= All of the customization.
 
Try the tire pressure, toe, camber, ride height, spring stiffness, etc.
Posted by Evilsbane
@Frumpy said:
" @Rio said:
" @Frumpy: Because you have to use the rewind button?  Sometimes I just dont get people's logic.  Its not like your hotlap times go up on the same leaderboard when you rewind, and you cant use it online so why does it matter?  Use it if you want or dont, god forbid people play a game the way they want to and have fun with it. "
I don't want a Rewind button in a driving S-I-M-U-L-A-T-O-R, in an Arcade game?Sure, I'd love a Rewind button in Burnout.  Like I said, GT5:The Real Driving Simulator is where I will be spending my money. If for some reason I want another Arcadey racing game(Already have Burnout, Pure, NFS, etc) then I'll rent Forza. "
OK you do know that all you do is go the options menu set it to super hard and everything gets cut off so whats the problem you have your super hard SIM just for you so just the presence of an easy mode makes the game bad? Thats just silly.
Posted by WinterSnowblind
@Frumpy said:
Options and assists=Arcade. If Gran Turismo 5:The Real Driving Simulator also has the same 'options' and 'assists', it will be an Arcadey game too.  But it also has Nascar, WRC, 1000 cars, 80 tracks, new physics engine, dynamic weather racing, much better graphics, support for more driving wheels, and a lot more. So that's why I'd rather invest my time and money into GT5.  Plus it will have like a Zillion more players than Forza 3, so the Online mode will always be healthier. "
How much are Sony paying you?
 
1.  I guess Gran Turismo "the Real Driving Simulator" is an arcade game too, as aside from the rewind it has most of the same assist options as Forza.  You can turn them off in BOTH games, and I wouldn't be surprised if GT has been delayed to add things like the rewind in.  You can almost certainly expect to see it in GT6.
 
2.  "1000 cars" is an extreme overstatement.  Although it has "1000" cars most of these use exactly the same models and are just slightly different stat wise.  Take a look at the PSP car line up.  800 different cars, and over 50 of them are the Skyline, 30 of them are RSX's, etc.
 
In Forza, they don't need so many clones because you can tune and customise the cars as much as you want.
 
3.  The online community in Forza is already huge, as you can see from these videos and the game isn't even out.  Whether or not GT ends up being better, Forza will always have the bigger community not only because of XBL but because it provides far more options and community featuers, like being able to set up eBay style storefronts to sell cars and vinyls.
 
The graphics is the only thing I'll give you.  GT5 is a much better looking game than Forza.  But if that's all you care about.. then this whole discussion seems pointlesss.
Posted by Frumpy
@natetodamax said:
" @Frumpy: It's a video game. "
It's an Arcadey videogame, like I said:IF I want an Arcadey game with Rewind buttons and Spray paint options, I'll get Forza.
 
But I want a real driving simulator, not a watered down racing experience. So that's why I'm going to buy Gran Turismo 5:The Real Driving Simulator.
Posted by Rio
@Frumpy said:
" @Rio said:
" @Frumpy: Because you have to use the rewind button?  Sometimes I just dont get people's logic.  Its not like your hotlap times go up on the same leaderboard when you rewind, and you cant use it online so why does it matter?  Use it if you want or dont, god forbid people play a game the way they want to and have fun with it. "
I don't want a Rewind button in a driving S-I-M-U-L-A-T-O-R, in an Arcade game?Sure, I'd love a Rewind button in Burnout.  Like I said, GT5:The Real Driving Simulator is where I will be spending my money. If for some reason I want another Arcadey racing game(Already have Burnout, Pure, NFS, etc) then I'll rent Forza. "
Perhaps you didnt read properly.  DONT USE IT!  God damnit people like you have no common sense.  It doesnt effect you at all if someone else uses it and you sure as hell dont have to.  Get over it bro.  Not using the rewind button magically turns it into what the game is, a racing simulator.  And it is an extremely well done simulator whether you want to believe it or not.
Posted by natetodamax
@Frumpy: It's a video game.
Posted by Frumpy

Anyways I've got to go catch a movie, again, if I feel like playing an Arcadey experience down the line then I'll definitely rent Forza 3.
 
Peace

Posted by WinterSnowblind
@Frumpy said:
" @Rio said:
" @Frumpy: Because you have to use the rewind button?  Sometimes I just dont get people's logic.  Its not like your hotlap times go up on the same leaderboard when you rewind, and you cant use it online so why does it matter?  Use it if you want or dont, god forbid people play a game the way they want to and have fun with it. "
I don't want a Rewind button in a driving S-I-M-U-L-A-T-O-R, in an Arcade game?Sure, I'd love a Rewind button in Burnout.  Like I said, GT5:The Real Driving Simulator is where I will be spending my money. If for some reason I want another Arcadey racing game(Already have Burnout, Pure, NFS, etc) then I'll rent Forza. "
Then you simply don't use the rewind button.  If you're a good sim player you shouldn't need it.  It's there for those who do, everyone else can ignore it and gain extra points on the leaderboards for not doing so.  Having the option does not in any way make it an arcade game.
Posted by morphinekiss
@Frumpy said:
" Anyways I've got to go catch a movie, again, if I feel like making uninformed posts then I'll definitely post.  Peace "
Posted by Depth
@Frumpy said:
" Anyways I've got to go catch a movie, again, if I feel like playing an Arcadey experience down the line then I'll definitely rent Forza 3.  Peace "
Troll.
Posted by ez123

Guys, he signed up just to hate on the game, calm down.

Posted by buckybit

This is one of the few Microsoft products I really am eager to buy. 
 
They did so many things right. Brian Beckman is a fan, which probably helps too. 
 
I like racing games although would never drive a car in real life - and didn't the past 4 decades.

Posted by OldGuy

<sigh>
 
Don't feed the trolls.
 
<sigh>

Edited by WinterSnowblind

Well it's worth pointing out that a lot of places in the UK are sending the game early to make up for the postal strikes.  GAME are getting ready to ship the games tomorrow or Monday, so we should hopefully start getting our copies on Tuesday.

Posted by Grognard66

The Hello Kitty car is a first day purchase for me!  ;)
Posted by Cirdain

Or IF YOU'VE GOT FRIENDS!

Posted by Noodles

Loving how you guys are doing video reviews again! You probably have a lot more time for them now that TANG/ER are done for now.

Posted by Nictel

"If you like car you'll like Forza." Well maybe I should b.... 'Hello Kitty Ferrari' *cringe!*

Posted by White_Silhouette

Yeah video reviews. I know they are a lot of work, but would love to see more in the future.

Posted by rateoforange

It's impossible to discuss the relative merits of a game that is out versus a game that is not out.

Posted by Tuggah

I am not into cars and I am thinking of getting this game.  It looks real good.

Posted by zombie2011

I can't wait for this game.

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