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Here's That Crazy Ass Metal Gear Solid V Trailer Everyone's Talking About

So which part of this do we want to try and wrap our heads around first? My vote goes to the flying fire whale.

Mar. 27 2013

Posted by: Alex

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@sub_o said:

@firecracker22 said:

I'm so fucking in.

Even though I'm confused as shit. Was Ground Zeroes ever a thing? Is it still a thing? If both GZ and PP are MGS5, then which one is part 1 and....you know what? Fuck it. I don't care. Just release it (or them, whatever) and I'll buy it and play it.

Kojima Productions is a developer that I just like. Everything I've played with their fingerprints on it, I've enjoyed. So, they've earned my (consumer) trust in the madness that Hideo Kojima brings.

From what I heard during the conference, it seems like MGS 5 is a duology (?). First part is Ground Zeroes, which take place after Peace walker (Big Boss / Naked Snake arc). Second part is Phantom Pain, 9 years after Ground Zeroes, which I believe to be precursor to original MGS on PSOne.

Yeah, I just looked it up and apparently a rep for Konami...or KP...had confirmed that it's literally two different games. So, chronologically...we'd have to play Ground Zeroes and then play Phantom Pain.

I think Phantom Pain would be the precursor to Metal Gear 1. It doesn't look like Phantom Pain will feature a 20-something Solid Snake, so it looks like it'll be before that and Outer Heaven / Zanzibar.

Yeah that makes sense. I was secretly hoping that Phantom Pain is the story about how Big Boss met the Liquid's era FOXHOUND members.

Right now I just want to know the release date and whether it will be on current or next gen consoles.

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@sub_o said:

@firecracker22 said:

I'm so fucking in.

Even though I'm confused as shit. Was Ground Zeroes ever a thing? Is it still a thing? If both GZ and PP are MGS5, then which one is part 1 and....you know what? Fuck it. I don't care. Just release it (or them, whatever) and I'll buy it and play it.

Kojima Productions is a developer that I just like. Everything I've played with their fingerprints on it, I've enjoyed. So, they've earned my (consumer) trust in the madness that Hideo Kojima brings.

From what I heard during the conference, it seems like MGS 5 is a duology (?). First part is Ground Zeroes, which take place after Peace walker (Big Boss / Naked Snake arc). Second part is Phantom Pain, 9 years after Ground Zeroes, which I believe to be precursor to original MGS on PSOne.

Yeah, I just looked it up and apparently a rep for Konami...or KP...had confirmed that it's literally two different games. So, chronologically...we'd have to play Ground Zeroes and then play Phantom Pain.

I think Phantom Pain would be the precursor to Metal Gear 1. It doesn't look like Phantom Pain will feature a 20-something Solid Snake, so it looks like it'll be before that and Outer Heaven / Zanzibar.

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Absolutely painful to watch.

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I'm so fucking in.

Even though I'm confused as shit. Was Ground Zeroes ever a thing? Is it still a thing? If both GZ and PP are MGS5, then which one is part 1 and....you know what? Fuck it. I don't care. Just release it (or them, whatever) and I'll buy it and play it.

Kojima Productions is a developer that I just like. Everything I've played with their fingerprints on it, I've enjoyed. So, they've earned my (consumer) trust in the madness that Hideo Kojima brings.

From what I heard during the conference, it seems like MGS 5 is a duology (?). First part is Ground Zeroes, which take place after Peace walker (Big Boss / Naked Snake arc). Second part is Phantom Pain, 9 years after Ground Zeroes, which I believe to be precursor to original MGS on PSOne.

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Also, I've read other places that some people were confused about why Ocelot looked so much older than he did in MGS3.

This game should be taking place about 20 or 25 years after MGS3. Just something I think some might want to know.

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I'm so fucking in.

Even though I'm confused as shit. Was Ground Zeroes ever a thing? Is it still a thing? If both GZ and PP are MGS5, then which one is part 1 and....you know what? Fuck it. I don't care. Just release it (or them, whatever) and I'll buy it and play it.

Kojima Productions is a developer that I just like. Everything I've played with their fingerprints on it, I've enjoyed. So, they've earned my (consumer) trust in the madness that Hideo Kojima brings.

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@thefantasticfillip: Wow, thanks for that. I've played all the main line games, and I thought I knew the story... but it turns out I only was vaguely aware of half of it.

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Dumb question: Could this be Liquid Snake?

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Maybe I should finally get around to playing MGS3 and MGS4. I've owned them for YEARS...

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This trailer got me really interested to see how this bizarre story will attempt to unfold.

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Am I looking forward to MGS5?
No.
Will I play it?

Probably...once it drops to $19.99.
Why?
MGS4.

MGS4 totally ruined the MGS franchise for me. I know there are tons of people out there that loved 4 but me personally, I hated it because Snake (after all these years) still moves like he was animated from popsicle sticks and the 87 and 1/2 hour movies Kojima puts in there.
You're either a game maker or a movie director Hideo, you can't and you need to stop being both. Pick one and totally drop the other.
So why would I even bother to consider playing this next game?

Well it's kinda like a train wreck to watch everything unfold, the characters are bat shit insane and I've played every MGS game up to this point so why stop now.
Having said, I will not be there day one. I'll pick it up much later down the road when it becomes less expensive.

I refuse to reward Kojima's movie making with my hard earned money with a day one purchase.

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@Norusdog: I hear you, dude. I want to love Metal Gear (played them all), but I feel like the further we go, the more stuff I have to pretend isn't there to enjoy the good parts.

The pseudo-mystical stuff at Shadow Moses was one thing, but dudes summoning bees and crazy flaming whales? Come on, Hideo. Seriously man.

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@quarters said:

@max_cherry: This game is a direct follow up to some of the events in Peace Walker, so no, that won't happen. In the Ground Zeroes trailer, they mention several things from that game, and this seems to be based off the true ending of PW. The Ground Zeroes portion takes place in 1974/1975, and the part after he wakes up will probably be around 1983.

Do we know how long it's been since PW at the start of this game? If you remember the GZ trailer he was using some tech that I wouldn't place in the mid-70s. Basically, I want this game to set up MG1 and finally take this series full circle and it would probably need to start later than 74 and 83.

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I still can't decide if I want this to be my first Metal Gear or not. I thought MGS4 looked interesting, but everything I heard about it made it seem like the story would make even less sense to me than it did to those that had played the previous games. I wonder how accessible this will be.

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sold

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no solid snake..no hayter...don't care. this looks stupid anyway...a beautiful trailer does not good game make..nope.

looks like more kojima horseshit...I'll pass on this one...what an abortion to Metal Gear's name. flying flaming whales? fire pegasis? whatever Kojima

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Zanzabarland

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Whites only hospital

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Awesome trailer. I can't wait for more Metal Gear.

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Great music choice. Too bad I find Kojima's universe to be incredibly convoluted. Still, awesome trailer, and I do like the MGS games I've played.

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Right hands up people who didn't see this one coming.......anybody?.........You in the back did you? Oh sorry just scratching your head.

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@max_cherry: This game is a direct follow up to some of the events in Peace Walker, so no, that won't happen. In the Ground Zeroes trailer, they mention several things from that game, and this seems to be based off the true ending of PW. The Ground Zeroes portion takes place in 1974/1975, and the part after he wakes up will probably be around 1983.

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@will_m said:

@fiberpay said:

I only played MGS2...........I don't know what the fuck this is.

I only played MGS1, MGS2, MGS2 Substance, MGS3, MGS3 Subsistence, and MGS4 all multiple times and I DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS. But I like it and this trailer was enchanting.

I dont care what this is, Kojima-san, but I'm on board.

Ah, you see, it's probably all answered in Peace walker.

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@fiberpay said:

I only played MGS2...........I don't know what the fuck this is.

I only played MGS1, MGS2, MGS2 Substance, MGS3, MGS3 Subsistence, and MGS4 all multiple times and I DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS. But I like it and this trailer was enchanting.

I dont care what this is, Kojima-san, but I'm on board.

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Thoughts:

Oh, cool. They added summons to the Metal Gear Series.

Okay, that's funny.

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God I love Metal Gear, no matter how crazy and messed up the storytelling might be. You just got to love Kojima for doing what the hell he wants and that it sells copies. This looks crazy!

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@cale said:

Why is there no Hind D?

"A Flying Fire Whale?" just doesn't have the same ring to it.

Colonel, what's a flying sea mammal doing here?

2 F-Killer Whales just took off from Galena and are headed your way.

Nah, just not the same.

I'm gonna swat down a couple of bothersome whales.

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Flying fire whale is the Wind Fish. This is a Metal Gear/Zelda crossover.

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No David Hayter?

if that is true then nope.

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I don't know what I just watched, but I liked it.

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What anything now here?

Words four order random?

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@on1inepersona said:

It would be amazing if this whole game take place in Big Boss' coma.

Also its like Kojima finally saw Apocalypse Now.

@on1inepersona: Someone better send him Crank then!

It's all Big Boss's autistic snow globe dream.

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@thisisdell: at the end of the trailer you can see it - it's a song by Garbage

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@thisisdell said:

What song is this? Cause I like this shit....

Shazam says it's "Not Your Kind of People" by Garbage.

edit: Also it says so at the end of the song in the lower right-hand corner.

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What song is this? Cause I like this shit....

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It was pointed out in the Neogaf thread regarding the first showing Phantom Pains. The Burning man with the glowing eyes resembles Volgin.

Diamond Dogs is also the name of David Bowie album that was released in 1974.

I don't suppose the British flag in the hospital room has any sort of historical connection? In comment section from other sites, Cyprus has been brought up.

This is a shot in the dark but could there be a chance that the man with the bandaged face could be Frank Jaeger? I didn't play Portable Ops and don't know what happened to him after San Hieronymo. He eventually meets up with Big Boss in the 80s.

After what is shown, I looking forward to see how MGS5 turns out.

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It would be amazing if this whole game take place in Big Boss' coma.

Also its like Kojima finally saw Apocalypse Now.

@on1inepersona: Someone better send him Crank then!

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Mother Base? Mother base!?!?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

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They have to be throwing Peace Walker out, right? Given that Big Boss was in a coma when that game took place.

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That was the stupidest thing I have ever seen in my entire life.

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I... okay, look. I love me some MGS. I think the series is pretty crazy - it does some real cool action Hollywood stuff mixed with just the right amount of crazy anime japanese stuff that makes me not take it too seriously, but really love it. With that said... I thought this trailer was awesome. It's Kojima alright.

But Hayter... I dunno man. He is _such_ a part of the character, whether he be Solid Snake or Big Boss, he is THE voice of Metal Gear. I don't know how Kojima could not have signed him back on... does that mean the Japanese voice actor Akio Otsuka is not on board?

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One clue I've spotted is toward the end, but don't know how it relates. When the female voice reads the title "V has come to." it sounds slightly German, as in "Wie hast komm du?", which I think means "Why have you come?". My German is pretty rubbish, though.

Could be; 'He has come to..' meaning, he's awoke from his coma.

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So... no David Hayter.

I know what I'm going to say sounds trivial and completely ignorant, but I'm probably going to skip this one now. After how many years and how many games they just go with another dude? No thanks. That will be far to jarring to me. That voice is iconic and it shouldn't be fucked with.

Granted I get that they used a different guy for Big Boss in MGS4 but it doesn't matter. It's just... dumb to mess with something like that that people can clearly identify.

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What anything now here?

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Metal Gear Solid is the best.

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@dberg said:

@lclay said:

I've never played a metal gear solid game, the whole thing just seems so fucked up crazy and impenetrable.

This trailer does not help.

There's a fun sort of madness in trying to keep up with the story, but the games are cool on their own even if you don't get it. It's like watching only the third Jason Bourne movie or something like that. Sure, a lot goes over your head, but there's still spys and shit shooting eachother and doing silly stuff and people get killed like 5 times before really being killed.

I think what screws me up is that there is like 6 of the same character who all look exactly the same in MSG. So I don't know who is who on screen so any attempts to try to follow what is going on is met with my brain exploding. On the plus side the writing is always overly complex as if to imply something absolutely crazy is going on, the editing and sound stuff is always great and it looks pretty. So while a lot of may end up as nonsense from a substance perspective, at least it has style.

My biggest issue with MSG is that they have never really been all that fun to play. This looks like it tries to bridge some of the gap at least from the parts of gameplay footage I saw.

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@lclay said:

I've never played a metal gear solid game, the whole thing just seems so fucked up crazy and impenetrable.

This trailer does not help.

Well of course if you're looking at the 10th game in a series it's gonna look like it doesn't make any sense, there's over a decade worth of mythology surrounding it. I'm sure if you also started watching an anime on it's 300th episode it's gonna look like utter nonsense. But everything starts with that first step, Metal Gear Solid.

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I only played MGS2...........I don't know what the fuck this is.

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It would be amazing if this whole game take place in Big Boss' coma.

Also its like Kojima finally saw Apocalypse Now.