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Nintendo Has Some New Pokémon it Would Like to Show You

Pikachu has some new friends, none of which are as cool as Squirtle.

Jan. 8 2013

Posted by: Alex

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Pokémon X/Y

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I just want them to make it easier to transfer from older games. The hoops you have to jump through is always a huge pain. The 3DS has an app ecosystem, some kind of transfer app would be appreciated.

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Glad they finally made the jump, still not interested though. 

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@pyrodactyl said:

@Crushed said:

Another Pokemon announcement, another outcry of people who haven't actually played the games in over a decade trying to tell Nintendo to make horrible fanservicey decisions.

you're right, we should all be happy that they release the same game every 2-3 years. Pokemon is pretty much madden at this point. Roster updates, minor gameplay tweeks. Pokemon should be so much better than that.

Here's what you can come up with in a 2 minute brainstorm on improving the pokemon franchise and bringing it to console while differentiating it from handheld versions:

take the first 150 pokemons (more would be way to much work to model and animate). Make it an action RPG in the exact template of all handheld pokemon games. Direct control over your pokemons in an 3D semi open world. HOW FUCKING COOL WOULD THAT BE? I would run to a store to buy a WiiU right this second if they announced that.

But no, same game from 1999 every other year is fiiiiiine...

Fucking awful. Why take out the strategy and turn it into an action game? You're completely missing the point of Pokemon if you think that's a good idea.

Also, just because the first 150 were the ones you grew up with, doesn't mean they're the best. Even if you've convinced yourself they are.

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Ah shit now I have to buy a 3DS, my wallet is crying in the corner right now.

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What is Pikachu doing in Paris?

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@WinterSnowblind said:

@pyrodactyl said:

@Crushed said:

Another Pokemon announcement, another outcry of people who haven't actually played the games in over a decade trying to tell Nintendo to make horrible fanservicey decisions.

you're right, we should all be happy that they release the same game every 2-3 years. Pokemon is pretty much madden at this point. Roster updates, minor gameplay tweeks. Pokemon should be so much better than that.

Here's what you can come up with in a 2 minute brainstorm on improving the pokemon franchise and bringing it to console while differentiating it from handheld versions:

take the first 150 pokemons (more would be way to much work to model and animate). Make it an action RPG in the exact template of all handheld pokemon games. Direct control over your pokemons in an 3D semi open world. HOW FUCKING COOL WOULD THAT BE? I would run to a store to buy a WiiU right this second if they announced that.

But no, same game from 1999 every other year is fiiiiiine...

Fucking awful. Why take out the strategy and turn it into an action game? You're completely missing the point of Pokemon if you think that's a good idea.

Just by giving you control over the Pokemon doesn't mean you have to take the strategy away. Especially if you include factors such as the environment you fight in. You might be thinking of some sort of beat em up but if it became more of a dragon age style game play where mana (or pp if you will), and movement come into play then that could be a lot of fun.

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Dude! They ruined fire pig with lame evolutions. THEY COULD HAVE MADE A BADASS FIRE BOAR! They didn't...

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@Draxyle said:

I loved Pokemon Red, and I have no idea why I never played a single game in the franchise after that. It's probably about time I took a dip back in.

I also loved Pokemon Red as a kid, so I took a plunge back when the remake, Pokemen Fire Red, came out. It was great. I then proceeded to play the contemporaneous Colosseum because you can steal pokemon from their trainers and who doesn't want to do that?

But now, I feel like it's overkill.

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Is Squirtle a Squirt Turtle or a Squirrel Turtle?

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I swear, Pokemon looks more and more cartoony with each game.

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Oh gosh, an actual 3D pokeymans RPG! It's finally happening!

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Going gorilla :)

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I can't wait. I've dipped into Pokemon games over the years but I've not taken one seriously since Blue.

This one looks rad!

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So Pikachu lives in Paris?

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@WinterSnowblind said:

@pyrodactyl said:

you're right, we should all be happy that they release the same game every 2-3 years. Pokemon is pretty much madden at this point. Roster updates, minor gameplay tweeks. Pokemon should be so much better than that.

Here's what you can come up with in a 2 minute brainstorm on improving the pokemon franchise and bringing it to console while differentiating it from handheld versions:

take the first 150 pokemons (more would be way to much work to model and animate). Make it an action RPG in the exact template of all handheld pokemon games. Direct control over your pokemons in an 3D semi open world. HOW FUCKING COOL WOULD THAT BE? I would run to a store to buy a WiiU right this second if they announced that.

But no, same game from 1999 every other year is fiiiiiine...

Fucking awful. Why take out the strategy and turn it into an action game? You're completely missing the point of Pokemon if you think that's a good idea.

Also, just because the first 150 were the ones you grew up with, doesn't mean they're the best. Even if you've convinced yourself they are.

You'll have to point out where I said action game somewhere in my post. I don't want them to turn pokemon into god of war or batman or bayoneta. I don't even want them to stop making the game they're making right now for handhelds.

Now if you think tactical menu based combat is suited for a game on a console you're the crazy one. A pokemon game on a console would need flash, flare and excitment. Something action RPGs offer that menu based tactical combat does not. Besides you didn't play a whole lot of action RPGs if you think they can't be tactical or more about your intelligence than your reflexes.

Also, if they can include the 900ish pokemons I don't care, more power to them. Including at least the first 150 would be a good move since, yo, nostalgia=more sales.

So yeah, direct control over your pokemon as it does intense tactical combat in a huge arena agains gym bosses or batteling/capturing wild pokemons in a semi open world. Think about it... THINK ABOUT IT...

Remember, this is just me spitballing here. If nintendo has better plans I will be very happy to buy a WiiU to experience them. As long as they start thinking big instead of playing it safe with their limitless potential franchise.

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Damn...looks like I gotta buy a 3DS now!

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@zoozilla: X and Y. and the third one will be Z. like the three dimensions. get it. I think that's more effort than some others would do.

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@beard_of_zeus: X and Y leading to Z. as in XYZ the three dimensions of geometry.

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@pyrodactyl: I do agree that the battles need more "flare". Standing infront of each, barely moving is a little silly. But that's something I think could be better remedied with better animation and more environmental issues. I don't see why they'd need to replace the turn based battle system in order to do that.

I can think of far too many RPG's have been completely ruined by switching to a real time battle system in an attempt to make things more fast paced and actiony.

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@tallTuck94: They just need to make it more flashy, better looking more exciting and for the WiiU or other console. In short: they need to make anything but pokemon stadium 3.

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Does this game let you import from the DS games? If so, I kind of want to go back, play through all of the old games and transfer them up,game by game and system by system, so I could bring my super badass Charizard from Blue into this game.

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@Ronald: You can't get Pokemon from Blue into the GBA games. That's what they made Fire Red and Lead Green for.

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HOLY SHIT! Pikachu just blew up France! He's a terrorist! Um... actually that kinda makes sense in a weird way.

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I don't know about you guys, but Froakie is the illest mofo of the bunch.

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FUCK YES

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Yeeeesss.Hahahahahaha.Fuck yeah.(Cough) Hmph.That seems like it will be something to look forward to.

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Gotta keep up my mad rampage of taking these games way too seriously.

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@beard_of_zeus said:

@zoozilla said:

Pokemon X and Pokemon Y?

Wow, they're not even trying anymore.

Well one is for boys, and the other is for girls, obviously. That, or maybe they aren't trying... :P

I'm glad they finally got around to making a 3DS Pokemon game. Now I can actually use the wireless functionality! Stupid DS only supporting WEP.

@beard_of_zeus: I think its a play on how the game is finally 3D and going to be on the 3DS. You know the x and y coordinate plane, with the 3rd game being pokemon Z

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I stopped caring about pokemon 10 yeas ago, and Zelda 5 years ago. Nintendo you need to do something to shake up some of your franchises. I get you're going for the younger audience so they won't realize you keep making the same games over and over again, but it sucks for the rest of us.

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Squirtle is fucking awesome. Wartortle was always my favorite though.

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My problems with new Pokemon are exemplified by the fact that the starters here are a Bidoof in grass-type cosplay, a transsexual Flareon, and the apparent result of a Swablu fucking Frogger. And I wish they would stop making legendaries so damn ubiquitous in the marketing.

The new perspective seems potentially neat, if they manage to accompany it with interesting mechanics.

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... So Nintendo, do I give you money now or later?

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@carlfoster91 said:

@beard_of_zeus: X and Y leading to Z. as in XYZ the three dimensions of geometry.

@jukeboxzer0 said:

@beard_of_zeus said:

@zoozilla said:

Pokemon X and Pokemon Y?

Wow, they're not even trying anymore.

Well one is for boys, and the other is for girls, obviously. That, or maybe they aren't trying... :P

I'm glad they finally got around to making a 3DS Pokemon game. Now I can actually use the wireless functionality! Stupid DS only supporting WEP.

@beard_of_zeus: I think its a play on how the game is finally 3D and going to be on the 3DS. You know the x and y coordinate plane, with the 3rd game being pokemon Z

Haha, thanks guys. I was making a joke about the whole boys and girls editions thing. I kinda figured the geometry explanation was the legit explanation.

Everyone knows Pokemon is for the whole family anyways. Mommy, Daddy, Sarah, and even Billy!

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@Dark_Lord_Spam said:

My problems with new Pokemon are exemplified by the fact that the starters here are a Bidoof in grass-type cosplay, a transsexual Flareon, and the apparent result of a Swablu fucking Frogger. And I wish they would stop making legendaries so damn ubiquitous in the marketing.

The new perspective seems potentially neat, if they manage to accompany it with interesting mechanics.

My problem with new Pokemon is I don't understand a word of what you just said.

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FROAKIE.  IT'S ALL ABOUT THAT FROAKIE.

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Uh, noob question, I never had a Pokemon game and I might be interested in this, but i have a normal DS. Guess I can't play this game on it, right?

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Pokemon seriously needs an stylistic change.

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Holy molly! I'm still a sucker for Pokemon and this is exactly what I wanted! Yeah they could do with some actual changes to the games, but changing the presentation of it so drastically for the first time in a long time is pretty huge! Also the starters I'd say look the best since possibly generation II.

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@jmic75 said:

I stopped caring about pokemon 10 yeas ago, and Zelda 5 years ago. Nintendo you need to do something to shake up some of your franchises. I get you're going for the younger audience so they won't realize you keep making the same games over and over again, but it sucks for the rest of us.

You don't think this seems to be big enough update? It at least looks nice this time compared to those DS games which were visually quite basic.

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OH GOD NO, they are finished with colors and have moved on to letters. How long until numbers GASP! and then subtitles? ...People, what if pokemon was people? When will it end!!

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Squirtle Squirt - Master Race.

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LOL X AND Y? SO MALE AND FEMALE?

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@zoozilla: Pokemon X and Y, both things that are part of chromosomes in genetics. The Japanese logos even have the double helix embedded into them. Clearly this means that Gen VI's overall theme might be more into genetics.

Alternatively, XY(and Z) are the coordinates of the axis of a 3D plane, referencing the fact that the Pokemon games have jumped to 3D.

As such, X and Y's meaning is double fold.

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Honestly, this looks incredible, i'm way on board.

Also, I imagine the X and Y is both a reference to DNA and also to the axis on a 3D plain, which means inevitably Pokemon Z is coming and we should probably just wait for that, but we won't.

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@Leosol: Yes they can. There's no reason that out of the countless species they have used that they only have to stick to one representative of a typing. They can do whatever as long as they make the Pokemon's design different.

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the starters look like neopets

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Pokemon Y...?

More like Pokemon...why!?

I should get out more...

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It looks like a cool game but i just cant get excited for new generations of pokemon

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@Grimluck343: And I'm pretty sure I didn't even reference past the third generation.

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That is WAY too much ear hair.

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I think im old enough for this series now