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Edited by Banned0bon

Color me surprised

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Posted by Sankis

Fuck yeah, Dan and Drew and Jason! Thanks for the holiday foresight!

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Edited by ejc93

Good grief! It's a Thanksgiving miracle, Charlie Brown!

Posted by CitizenJP

Solid Scanlon and Colonel Ryckert confirmed.

Posted by SpunkyHePanda

Gotta download this quick in case it's a mistake oh god

Posted by BBQBram

Oh yes. I believe I will.

Posted by blacks329

And here I was thinking we weren't gonna get any Metal Gear Scanlon until next week. Well done gents!

Edited by Banned0bon

Drew and Dan should really start recording these in advance and releasing them in a more consistent schedule. The random anticipation is killing.

Like record two hours each day of recording and then release 1 hour of content every 3 days

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Edited by Sparuscus

Wow, Dan is turning Drew into a cold-blooded murderer. :(

Don't stoop to their level, Drew. You can save the world with PEACE and LOVE~

Edit: Oh god this bridge is incredible

Posted by calvin521

Hell yea, surprise video!

Edited by Dberg

Disguises, ho! :D

Posted by AndrewJPlant

and I was just about to go to bed too. Oh well!

Posted by ripelivejam

Lmao bum ticker

Posted by cooljammer00

Thanksgiving miracle!

Posted by Hassun

That subtitle... JASOOOOON.

Posted by Draxyle

Okay, now I'm glad they missed the AK the first time around. We wouldn't have gotten that bonus to the death montages.

Posted by Counterclockwork87

I love this series but I don't for the life of me understand how Drew can be so terrible at this game! The first time i played metal gear solid 2 ( I had never played the first) I think I beat it in like 7 hours and don't remember dying very much except some bosses...in the world of video games its a pretty easy video game.

I hope he starts using his radar and various skills more often (like holding dudes up).

Posted by AuthenticM

Fuck yeah !

Posted by marbleCmoney

I'm thankful for surprise Metal Gear Scanlons!

Posted by dudeglove

Strut F strikes again

Posted by baka_shinji17

Metal Gear Scanlon. Tactical Espionage Upload. A Jason Oestricher Video.

Posted by Taoto

@sparuscus: It's usually every Tuesday and Thursday. They've been pretty regular about that. This week is probably a bit unusual because of the holiday break.

Edited by Catarrhal

I give THANKS for Metal Gear Scanlon!

Edited by Flappy

I believe in Drew.

Edited by burgavo

Thanx For this Guys this was great.

@drewbert: Just a tip: Please don't give in to Ryckerts homocidal tendencies, If you put guards to sleep before they can make a radio report, and an attack team comes and finds him, they just kick him awake and then they go away (nothing susspisious about a dude sleeping in a hallway with a dart stuck in his forehead I guess), if you hide the body, they won't really look for him beyond the spot where he should have made his report, they will report they can't find him and then they leave.

Also I think guards will investigate blood stains.

well that's enough rambling from me.

have a good amurica holliday!

Posted by Mister_Snig

I'm thankful for cool guy games like Metal Gear Solid 2.

Edited by floomp

I'm pretty sure sleeping guards will work with the retinal scanner. But I think you have to turn around so the guard is facing the scanner while you're carrying him, which is probably why Drew was having issues.

Posted by Phished0ne

Discussion about Lucid Dreaming? more of this please, I want to know what kind of weird shit Dan is/was doing in his lucid dreams. I never got good enough at it to do anything really fun, but its was definitely a crazy experience. The first time you realize you have control without waking up is a pretty awesome, and everyone I've talked to about basically does the same thing, flies.

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@counterclockwork87 said:

I love this series but I don't for the life of me understand how Drew can be so terrible at this game! The first time i played metal gear solid 2 ( I had never played the first) I think I beat it in like 7 hours and don't remember dying very much except some bosses...in the world of video games its a pretty easy video game.

I hope he starts using his radar and various skills more often (like holding dudes up).

You can cheese this entire game by just sniping everything with the M9 or SOCOM as soon as you enter the room. Like, the flying drones in particular are a joke as long as you have any silenced weapon that shoots bullets. And you can easily M9 every single guard in the game aside from the ones that radio in. You can shoot out basically every camera in the game with ease.

I think the issue is that Drew kinda blundered his way through the first game, and never got comfortable eliminating guards. Which is actually the much easier solution, because sneaking around guards nonviolently is actually much, much harder. Especially if you refuse to use the box 90% of the time like Drew.

Also Drew seems to still not understand that there are some obvious enemy blindspots in just about every room where if you just lean against a box at the end of a hallway, you will never be found because patrol routes never have guards go all the way to the wall at the end of a hallway. If he's not just going to immediately headshot every guard he sees, he should at least be thinking of the gameplay as "move from safe spot to safe spot", instead of "enter a room and blindly run around". Part of the issue is that for the sake of "keeping the video moving", Drew doesn't seem to have the patience to wait for guard patrol openings or just hide in a corner while an alert wears off.

Also doesn't help that he forgets about the sentry overlooking the EF bridge every single time. He finally takes it slow and deals with the guard sentry and drones effectively, but only after his like sixth time blundering through that zone.

Posted by Stonyman65

Awesome! I'm bored and couldn't sleep so I was desperately searching online for stuff to watch and couldn't find anything. Then I click over to Giant Bomb and BAM! New episode of Metal Gear Scanlon!

Posted by Humanity

@counterclockwork87 said:

I love this series but I don't for the life of me understand how Drew can be so terrible at this game! The first time i played metal gear solid 2 ( I had never played the first) I think I beat it in like 7 hours and don't remember dying very much except some bosses...in the world of video games its a pretty easy video game.

I hope he starts using his radar and various skills more often (like holding dudes up).

You can cheese this entire game by just sniping everything with the M9 or SOCOM as soon as you enter the room. Like, the flying drones in particular are a joke as long as you have any silenced weapon that shoots bullets. And you can easily M9 every single guard in the game aside from the ones that radio in. You can shoot out basically every camera in the game with ease.

I think the issue is that Drew kinda blundered his way through the first game, and never got comfortable eliminating guards. Which is actually the much easier solution, because sneaking around guards nonviolently is actually much, much harder. Especially if you refuse to use the box like Drew.

It's an exciting turn of events as Drew used the box entirely too often in the first game. He is getting better as I don't see him freeze up and stand still whenever he's about to get detected anymore.

Also I don't know if shooting everything with M9 is cheesing. I'm fairly sure almost everyone did it. I mean heck, in every stealth game I'll methodically take every single guard out in the entire area before moving around, usually piling all the bodies in a single room. Stealth games are all about the power fantasy of sneaking about, seeing someone and knowing they can't see you. It's a weirdly voyeuristic experience.

Posted by Jpensive

Drew Fighting~!!!!!!!!!!

Edited by wumbo3000

LOL Dan with the slip up at the end. Solidus huh?

Posted by BisonHero
@humanity said:

Stealth games are all about the power fantasy of sneaking about, seeing someone and knowing they can't see you. It's a weirdly voyeuristic experience.

While I think that is well realized in something like Mark of the Ninja, where some rooms just have enough redundancies that you have to use multiple mechanics in conjunction to deal with everyone, I feel like that is less true in MGS2. In MGS2 you can just trivialize most of the other mechanics in the game by just simply M9 headshotting every guard that doesn't radio in, and then hiding them in lockers. And there are very few times that the guards are actually watching each other, and I'm fairly certain that both acts of MGS2 have significantly fewer cameras than MGS1 did so they're also largely a non-issue.

I know everyone did it, and I think Drew should be doing it so he doesn't die so many times and get frustrated. But I still think of it as cheesing because it almost feels like it's a design oversight that it's THAT easy to trivialize most of the scenarios in the game.

Posted by Humanity

@bisonhero: I always accepted thats just how Metal Gear plays. Splinter Cell is very similar in that very rarely did enemies cover each other and most of the time you took everyone out one by one - that is after you've shot out every single lightbulb in the building.

Stealth games for the most part are pretty similar in this design choice. If constantly had guards intelligently covering one another it wouldn't be any fun to play.

Posted by cooljammer00

"Olga people, day and night!"

Edited by Watershreder

Anyone able to name a game they only played in five day intervals?

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Posted by cooljammer00

Discussion about Lucid Dreaming? more of this please, I want to know what kind of weird shit Dan is/was doing in his lucid dreams. I never got good enough at it to do anything really fun, but its was definitely a crazy experience. The first time you realize you have control without waking up is a pretty awesome, and everyone I've talked to about basically does the same thing, flies.

It's Dan Ryckert.....What do YOU think he lucid dreams about?

Edited by CaLe

I wonder why they used a different voice actor for Solidus in the English version. The Japanese version used the same guy who voices Snake, without trying to even disguise it.

Meryl and Olga are also both the same voice actress in the Japanese versions as well, strangely enough.

Posted by Oldirtybearon

@cooljammer00 said:

@phished0ne said:

Discussion about Lucid Dreaming? more of this please, I want to know what kind of weird shit Dan is/was doing in his lucid dreams. I never got good enough at it to do anything really fun, but its was definitely a crazy experience. The first time you realize you have control without waking up is a pretty awesome, and everyone I've talked to about basically does the same thing, flies.

It's Dan Ryckert.....What do YOU think he lucid dreams about?

Winning The Title at WrestleMania.

Guaranteed he's dreamt of it at least once.

Posted by LiquidPrince

I don't understand why everyone bags on Rose. Her character seems perfectly fine, and she was used as a way to convey some back story on Raiden. Raiden himself is a bit of nasally brat at this point, but even he isn't as bad as people claim he is. He's no Snake, but he's still pretty cool. Plus he turns into a badass ninja later anyways...

Posted by straydogrenji

Holy moly, did not see this coming! What an awesome Bastille Day treat, cheers guys!

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@liquidprince said:

I don't understand why everyone bags on Rose. Her character seems perfectly fine, and she was used as a way to convey some back story on Raiden. Raiden himself is a bit of nasally brat at this point, but even he isn't as bad as people claim he is. He's no Snake, but he's still pretty cool. Plus he turns into a badass ninja later anyways...

Raiden and Rose both dragged down MGS2, they suck.

That part at the bridge was just...painful. I haven't played this game in over 10 years and only finished it twice, but I still took one look at that and thought "just put the box on when you the cyphers come near", man... (or wait and shoot them first)

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@liquidprince said:

I don't understand why everyone bags on Rose. Her character seems perfectly fine, and she was used as a way to convey some back story on Raiden. Raiden himself is a bit of nasally brat at this point, but even he isn't as bad as people claim he is. He's no Snake, but he's still pretty cool. Plus he turns into a badass ninja later anyways...

Raiden and Rose both dragged down MGS2, they suck.

Great points. It's weird how I couldn't see things from your perspective before. You are a masterful debater, what with all your reasons and points... Really convinced me that Rose and Raiden suck. I mean how could I not see it before...? I rescind my previous comments on how I thought their characters were okay. This man/woman has shown me the light.

Posted by Jonny_Anonymous

Drew still doesn't understand this is a stealth game

Posted by ZmillA

Lucid dreaming is great. Years ago when I was really into it I bought a couple books by Stephen Lebarge. I was also keeping a dream journal and doing reality checks when I was awake. It's a shame Drew's ignorance on the matter is keeping him for greatly enhancing a large part of his life.

Posted by GunstarRed

"I never trust a Frenchman."

Posted by Xel

@privodotmenit said:

@liquidprince said:

I don't understand why everyone bags on Rose. Her character seems perfectly fine, and she was used as a way to convey some back story on Raiden. Raiden himself is a bit of nasally brat at this point, but even he isn't as bad as people claim he is. He's no Snake, but he's still pretty cool. Plus he turns into a badass ninja later anyways...

Raiden and Rose both dragged down MGS2, they suck.

Great points. It's weird how I couldn't see things from your perspective before. You are a masterful debater, what with all your reasons and points... Really convinced me that Rose and Raiden suck. I mean how could I not see it before...? I rescind my previous comments on how I thought their characters were okay. This man/woman has shown me the light.

When people first played MGS2, they didn't expect to be caught up in the relationship between Raiden and Rose, and that brought down the experience for some.

I personally have no issue with the two, though "Jack, do you know what day it is tomorrow?" is still an in-joke amongst my friends and I.

Posted by squirrelbait

Early into this ep. First comment - Dan and Drew remember you can drag knocked out enemies and hide them in lockers. Had the perfect opportunity to do that about 4:30 in instead of socoming that guy.

Edited by elfinke

Intentional or not, the thumbnail with the Premium+doves overlay is perfectly aligned to make the left-most dove look like pursed lips on the balaclava clad soldier. Nice.

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