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War Has Apparently Changed

Activision and VICE have teamed up to remind you that war is all kinds of weird now. Maybe it always was. Anyway, this is supposed to set up the tone of the next Call of Duty game (as well as every other modern military shooter made over the last few years and Metal Gear and...).

May. 1 2014

Posted by: Jeff

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At the start, I was moderately interested in the concept of a Call of Duty game where it's not all "America bitches" and you instead work for a PMC.

But by the end of the video it seems readily apparent that it's going to just be MW2 but with PMCs instead of Russians. Right?

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K really though.. remember when Vice was good? This is depressing.

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Damn it I read the title and thought Fallout 4.

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@tearhead said:

I saw the title and thought this was news on Fallout 4. = (

So did I ... bummer

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and here I thought this was a fallout 4 announcement trailer :(

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When I read the Title description...it didn't seem like it would have came from Patrick or Alex...Maybe Drew or Vinny? Then I looked..

IT WAS JEFF.

:3

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This is deeply shocking...

Jeff posted a video!?!

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Fascinating little clip, but what's my take away because gaming or pretending to play solider in a game is the last thing on my mind.

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Oh God.

*Sigh* turns of laptop and gives up breathing.

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They're about six years late to the PMC party. :|

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I feel like VICE is better than this, but if this sorta dumb shit lets them keep the doors open I won't be too upset.

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Who hasn't heard of G4S?

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As a piece of advertising, that was pretty solid. But I don't know about treating it as anything more than another embellishment piece from Vice. For example, G4S is the third largest company by number of employees. They aren't even top 100 when it comes to something like revenue. And many of those employees are guys sitting at the front desks of office buildings or watching CCTV monitors in museums. Hardly the types to stage a coup. You might actually remember them as the company that lost the London Olympic security contract because they couldn't get their shit together.

On top of that, most "private military contractors" aren't the soldier of fortune types (man, remember that game?). They're guys and gals driving supply trucks, running the commissary,constructing buildings, doing administration and logistics. Again, not the types to be parachuting onto the White House in our not too distant dystopian future.

I'm certainly interested in where Sledghammer is going to take the CoD franchise. But man, I've really tired of Vice.

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Syndicate 2, ey?

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War, war never changes

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@adrian79:

@adrian79 said:

Cant we just go back to WW2 already? I haven't shot any Nazi's for at least 3 years and im getting withdrawal shakes.

How about WW1 for once? I want to hand-drop small bombs from a shaky plane made from drift-wood and mothers table cloth to dump it on some poor horses head. Gas-masks & trenches. The first tank. Think about it.

Yup, I really want to see some WW1 games.

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@singingmenstrual: Sledgehammer Games could actually be changing things up, you don't know.

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When will they make a shooter set in a crazy off the rails future. I'm thinking Back To The Future 2 crazy future here.

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@adrian79:

@adrian79 said:

Cant we just go back to WW2 already? I haven't shot any Nazi's for at least 3 years and im getting withdrawal shakes.

How about WW1 for once? I want to hand-drop small bombs from a shaky plane made from drift-wood and mothers table cloth to dump it on some poor horses head. Gas-masks & trenches. The first tank. Think about it.

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The fuck did I just watch?

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And still people will buy it in droves.

Fuck me, but I just want one big goofy ass Timesplitters-esque shooter to turn everything on its head and make the FPS shooter genre relevant again beyond fun games like Borderlands 2 or Dead Island.

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Edited By tearhead

I saw the title and thought this was news on Fallout 4. = (

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So, I am unsure, from this video should I conclude: "war has changed"?

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PMCs, bros

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Fuck this!

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戦争、戦争だけは変わらない。(War, War never changes.)

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Hey, we've been feeding you the same rehashed unimaginative gameplay within the same limited game designs, so we've been working hard researching and writing a story revolving around PMC's!

"Spend some of your billions on some new goddamn game technology! Sit down and think up ways to expand your game design and make the player have more real-time interactivity with his surroundings and items! Hire some Hollywood people to come up with new and exciting missions and operations that don't have mounted MG's every five feet!"

No no, we're researching PMC's for the story, that'll get you talking and completely overlooking gameplay...

Nowadays it's either safe/typical game design or Dark Souls and Spelunky, and if you dislike the latter well then you're fucked for another 20 years with games like Bioshock Infinite, Mass Effect 3 and the new Wolfenstein.

*feels fucked*

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@kacho_on: Yeah, so? That is still a private security job, just because they're in the news for being assholes doesn't mean they are mercenaries...They can still be an asshole corporation, but putting them together with Blackwater is silly. They don't do the same thing.

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Wow no one has ever done a military game about PMC's taking a bigger role in waging wars....except for Army of Two, and Metal Gear Solid, and Tom Clancy's HAWX, and....just about every other military game in recent years.

And the question "what if they start taking over" gave me a nosebleed from the sheer stupidity....

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I hope this isn't the case, but I half expect this game to be your character taking orders from a non-self-aware and un-ironic version of Senator Armstrong.

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War never changes.

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Edited By Waffley

Setting aside the actual real-world discussion of PMCs, this seems like a "safe" move for a Call of Duty game. Focusing on one or several "evil" PMCs would allow them to go for shock value way easier without offending any other countries/groups.

Aaand I guess it would be kind of a cool idea to pull directly from Syndicate and let you have your own corporation within your inner circle of friends.

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Peace Walkerrrr

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Douglas Shetland did it

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Cool Video

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@vodun: You are being silly now

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-24694214

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We have pmc's, but what is the status of The War Economy and SOP?

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Ummm. that "third largest company", G4S, is a Danish company that does stuff like ambulance services, money transport, mall security and alarms. So sure, they're a "private security firm" but if they've invaded any countries recently they're the best covert ops outfit yet.

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"Hey guys, we've got this amazing new idea we just came up with: PMCs!"

Apparently the people who make Call of Duty think the people who play Call of Duty don't play any other video games.

I wouldn't mind the idea though, if they would just do something a little different with it. Like, how about instead of PMCs "turning against" the USA, what if a future, corporate-dominated USA instead starts using PMCs to accomplish so much "consequence-free" military action that it ends up accidentally becoming an evil empire? And then the dwindling forces of the legitimate, enlisted US military has to lead a coup d'etat against itself to save the Constitution and democracy and shit?

Now that would be provocative and interesting. This is just Army of Two.

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Video games.

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Vice makes documentaries for douchebags. Still, hope the game turns out better than Ghosts did. I just want a fun campaign to play through.

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Fuck blackwater and that pos Prince.

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PMCs are good for suppressing civilians or poorly armed rebels. Good luck getting a guy to sign up for a suicide mission if you aren't going to bury him with a flag on his casket, though.

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Edited By Itwastuesday

Call of Duty and VICE are PERFECT for each other. They both have, at best, an ignorant bemusement regarding other cultures (at worst expressing outright racism), one is an overly-scripted shooter and the other produces overly-scripted shock docs, and both make a downright annoying amount of money.

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Cant we just go back to WW2 already? I haven't shot any Nazi's for at least 3 years and im getting withdrawal shakes.

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Edited By Fenrisulfr

Despite the worrying video, there's nothing new to this idea. Mercenary groups of ex-military (and even an entire military) made of mercenaries, have existed throughout human history. It's only within the last few hundred years that they've grown out of style due to the shift in battlefield tactics and strategy But since there's been a resurgence of small group tactics, it would only make sense that a lot of ex-military would be jumping ship from being tied down to a country (and being poorly paid) to find greater opportunity elsewhere doing the same thing.