I'm sick of all the multiplayer lag and having to mute everyone who comes in the game.

add these features to the PC version, stop being mean

I'm hoping you've posted this on the official forums because, I have a feeling the developers won't likely be listening here and there's not much we can all do about it...

Completely agree, but as Vitor said, you're accomplishing nothing by complaining here.

people have complained on the official forums, and there's a petition for dedicated servers.

Relic's response - no

Relic's reason - because we said so

As far as Push-To-Talk goes, they're adding a "Mute All" button on PC, which apparently will help the P2P be a little better. They're saying it helps make your ping better.

How significantly better remains to be seen, but at least they're doing something. Definitely not what I'd prefer, but whatever, it's still a fun game.

You won't see many developers putting dedicated servers into their MP games unless it's really popular for one simple reason - cost.

I know consumer bandwidth is not ideal for multiplayer games, but it's just not profitable to be setting up multiple servers for people to play on. And even if they did, they'll probably go the route of a few in North America, a few in Europe, and ONE in Japan - cause they can't afford that many. You'll still feel the latency pulling at your pubes and no one gets anywhere; and THQ would lose a chunk of change just paying for the bandwidth.

Which is why most developers and publishers feel a peer-to-peer setup is sufficient because maintaining a few matchmaking servers is just cheap. It doesn't have to be fast as all it needs to do is track the games going on. The bulk of their sales and player-base probably comes from NA and Europe, whom if you're playing locally within your own region it's bearable - there will be enough people to give you a decent game.

But the rest of the world? We become the minority. There won't be enough Japanese and players in the Pacific to get a few good games going so we'll be forced to play with people in the West. We'll lag, but why would THQ care? We already paid the money and we're the minority. And people don't really cater for the minority.

I think Relic listened as much as they realistically could in this situation. I relly don't see dedicated servers happaning to a game with such a small MP scope.
And we just got the Mute All function with the latest patch, so yay!

@White said:

You won't see many developers putting dedicated servers into their MP games unless it's really popular for one simple reason - cost.

I know consumer bandwidth is not ideal for multiplayer games, but it's just not profitable to be setting up multiple servers for people to play on. And even if they did, they'll probably go the route of a few in North America, a few in Europe, and ONE in Japan - cause they can't afford that many. You'll still feel the latency pulling at your pubes and no one gets anywhere; and THQ would lose a chunk of change just paying for the bandwidth.

Which is why most developers and publishers feel a peer-to-peer setup is sufficient because maintaining a few matchmaking servers is just cheap. It doesn't have to be fast as all it needs to do is track the games going on. The bulk of their sales and player-base probably comes from NA and Europe, whom if you're playing locally within your own region it's bearable - there will be enough people to give you a decent game.

But the rest of the world? We become the minority. There won't be enough Japanese and players in the Pacific to get a few good games going so we'll be forced to play with people in the West. We'll lag, but why would THQ care? We already paid the money and we're the minority. And people don't really cater for the minority.

That is all true for consoles.

OP was asking for dedicated servers on the pc. They dont need to be (and SHOULDNT be) Relic servers. If they simply provided a dedicated server client the community would run them (as in all other games). That shit don't cost much to develop and would increase the games lifespan and popularity (fixing most lag issues) immensely. Increased multiplayer lifespan and an active community = more sales for DLC and Relics next game.

That is all true for consoles.

OP was asking for dedicated servers on the pc. They dont need to be (and SHOULDNT be) Relic servers. If they simply provided a dedicated server client the community would run them (as in all other games). That shit don't cost much to develop and would increase the games lifespan and popularity (fixing most lag issues) immensely. Increased multiplayer lifespan and an active community = more sales for DLC and Relics next game.

Economics 101

Cost of implementing and running dedicated server - addition revenue generated by this = likely negative!