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And Now... The Rest Of The Story

Jeff and John sit down on GameSpot's weird wrap-around green screen and address some issues that were long overdue.

Hey guys. So, in case you missed it, this is the video we broadcast at 4PM yesterday, where we discussed the business side of business, my past history with GameSpot, and some of your questions.

Tomorrow, with any luck, we'll start getting back to actually recording Quick Looks and, like, covering video games. Well, part of the time, anyway. The rest of the time will be spent getting lost on the 3rd floor of that building over and over again because everyone moved desks while we were gone. Thanks for watching.

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@knightlyknave: Pretty sure they just left the business. I remember hearing one of them worked for Stuff or Maxim or something.

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Norwegian News papers, we know about everything, first at the scene motherfucker!

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I think people are missing a huge point here. If GS or CBS try anything funny to compromise the site, then there is no doubt in my mind that Jeff and the crew will leave AGAIN. They left GS with nothing but the clothes on their back. Now they have a huge fanbase and videogame companies backing them up. People KNOW who they are and what they do. If they had to leave GS (which I don't wish, just giving worse case scenario) they will leave and so will we.

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Alright, so what I want to know is what happened to those evil managers that used to work at Gamespot? Did they get fired or, god forbid, promoted?

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@Vortextk said:

Let's say nothing changes about giantbomb, or the main guys. But no will or norm? No yelling from across the studio during tnt? No bar area? No bitching about the crappy room they do their podcasts in or being in a basement? No rorie man handling ryan's fingers? No puppies? It all really really sucks from that viewpoint. It's hard to give that up. It's like watching your favorite tv show end and the cast breaks up, even if in this case it's not all of them. I don't think they're sell outs or greedy, and not going to pretend to know their finances, but until we're months out from now and I know what the new giantbomb is like, it's just not a great feeling. I haven't been on ign or eurogamer in quite awhile because while I liked the depth of news and articles from consuming all of these sites, GB was funnier and more personal and I could relate to every single name that ever wrote an article or spoke a word because I knew a little bit atleast about each one. Goodluck, I don't plan on leaving, I'm just a bit sad.

Matthew Rorie is worth addressing in this video at least. I'm not a subscriber to Giantbomb, I'm a subscriber to Whiskey Media. That means all of the awesome Screened content that is produced. Why didn't they address that? I understand bringing the Warlords machine, but could you throw Rorie in the back of the truck as well please.....

Seriously, Gamespot? Blegh. Opinion entitled!

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Glad he finally got to talk about it even though it was pretty obvious what had happened. Glad Gamespot isn't under that regime any more, but I was there mostly because of Jeff and the rest of the GB crew. I won't follow any other gaming site thanks to the wonderful thing they have created with Giant Bomb! Here's to hoping that they don't change too much!

Although it is super sad that the whole Whiskey suite won't be together anymore. No Big Live Live Show Live 3 or Happy Hour :(

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Good watch....glad Jeff is in a better place now... ...on a side note....I love Jeff's shirt =)

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@Krakn3Dfx said:

I just realized John Davison looks nothing like how I pictured him in my mind after years of listening to him on various podcasts. I always pictured Chase from House, which...no.

John Davison is pretty awesome tho, glad to see he's kind of running things at Gamespot now, they could do a lot worse.

I quite enjoyed John Davison's time on OPM around the early PS2 era, those were good times. Davison, Gary Steinman, Joe Rybicki, Todd Zuniga, good times.

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Hope this move clears out alot of the trash that GB has picked up.

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Jeff seems really happy. I think everyone in the crew is. That's what matters. Happy cows, make delicious cheese.

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Congrats, guys. I can tell Jeff is really psyched to hang out with his old spotter bros. Thanks for the video 'splainin stuff! I'm excited for the added resources that you guys may now have at your disposal. And I, for one, have no plans to discontinue my premium membership. So long as you PROMISE that Vinny and Jeff will do an Endurance Run of Persona 5 when it comes out. :D

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Three-hour Bombcasts CONFIRMED.

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@msavo said:

I'll be curious how long it takes for everything to go south. Who will be forced to leave or added to the team? What compromises in terms of content will be made? Hopefully we get a couple of good years out of Giant Bomb until that happens.

Wow, that is a fabulous piece of pessimism.

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I was considering getting premium membership just a week ago, before all this crap. So glad I didn't. I would really like to see how Ryan feels about all this, he's been keeping pretty quite. And that little "I love Mondays" earlier this week... lol, there was no mention from him of why he loved that Monday. I was starting to really get into the whiskey media family as well, so it will be missed. I'll tune in once or twice to see how it's shaping out for them, but now that they are apart of CBS/Gamespot there is no way I can show my support anymore. Not sure how tight money was for them, but I'm just going to say it right now. Your all hailed holy man "journalist" with integrity Jeff is a sell out. I'm sure it's for a good cause, like you know being able to eat and pay your rent. At some point, given the opportunity most people would sell out. So I'm glad life will be better for the crew as people! I didn't follow Jeff or Ryan's story from gamespot to giantbomb, and I don't really care. The only explanation they needed to give anyone is that they needed more money.

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Good Video

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Shit is intense.

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"Far dirtier then... well... ahh... we've said some pretty messed up stuff..." - Jeff

Giantbomb. This is why I love you.

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I just realized John Davison looks nothing like how I pictured him in my mind after years of listening to him on various podcasts. I always pictured Chase from House, which...no.

John Davison is pretty awesome tho, glad to see he's kind of running things at Gamespot now, they could do a lot worse.

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I mean IGN has 1up, Now Gamespot has Giantbomb, or should I say FOX and CBS owns them now. Either way, Giantbomb will always be my favorite Gaming site. They seem like they have a lot of fun working together. If that's not going to change, then I'll always be a loyal fan.

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Let's say nothing changes about giantbomb, or the main guys. But no will or norm? No yelling from across the studio during tnt? No bar area? No bitching about the crappy room they do their podcasts in or being in a basement? No rorie man handling ryan's fingers? No puppies?
 
It all really really sucks from that viewpoint. It's hard to give that up. It's like watching your favorite tv show end and the cast breaks up, even if in this case it's not all of them. I don't think they're sell outs or greedy, and not going to pretend to know their finances, but until we're months out from now and I know what the new giantbomb is like, it's just not a great feeling. I haven't been on ign or eurogamer in quite awhile because while I liked the depth of news and articles from consuming all of these sites, GB was funnier and more personal and I could relate to every single name that ever wrote an article or spoke a word because I knew a little bit atleast about each one. Goodluck, I don't plan on leaving, I'm just a bit sad.

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(Sniff)..... Can someone point me to a "best of" of sorts involving Will smith and the GB crew? maybe set to the backdrop of that really sad song that always plays during the "help us save these starving children/ animals" Commercials...... and one for Rorie too!

I'm gonna miss those Happy Hours.....

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It is great to clear the air. I loved gamespot before the big debacle, so it is relieving to know that the management that ruined it in 2007 is now gone. It will be an interesting few months and I'm definitely keeping an open mind about it.

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@FreedomTown said:

@Legend said:

This whole thing is messed up. I don't like it. I don't like how they kept us in the dark for so long. I don't like the way they announced it. I don't like how Rorie (from what I can tell from his tweets) had no idea they were going to announce it when they did. I don't like how even he doesn't know exactly what will happen to Screened. I don't like any of it.
This decision was %100 business. The staff knows how much many of us hate Gamespot. They know we would've supported them even more if they were about to go out of business. Seriously, imagine how much money people would give on, say, Kickstarter to keep the site going. But no, they didn't care about any of that. They just found themselves a good business deal and went with it whether the users like it or not. And from what I can tell, most users don't like it one bit. They didn't even explain why they made that decision in the first place, and they probably never will (I'm guessing money but who knows). I'm just so disappointed to say the least...

Of course it is money. I agree with everything you stated here. This whole thing is a slap in the face. Most supporters of this have their head in the sand if they think GB and Gamespot will not merge....and more then likely.....everything will just be absorbed into Gamespot slowly but surely. This is just common sense.

I don't know. I find it hard that I, as a free user of this here video game website, have any right to complain and bash the staff for this. It is what it is. I am going to take their word that the site will contiune to grow and get better. If 6 months down the road this place is stale/boring/visibly changed for the worse because of CBS than you(we) can get up in arms and leave. But to sit here and pontificate on theoretical situations seems selfish. They have to do what is best for the website and their lives. Personal goals came into play here and they can't keep every single disgruntled internet user happy. Once the content starts flowing again I think everyone will calm down.

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I'll be curious how long it takes for everything to go south. Who will be forced to leave or added to the team? What compromises in terms of content will be made? Hopefully we get a couple of good years out of Giant Bomb until that happens.

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@mehojevich said:

they defected to gamespot and those lying turds?? hmmm i understand the reach to the people through their shit (gamespot) but fuck those hippe/hipster fake fuckholes

Gamespot seems to be one step away from G4 or something you'd see on SpikeTV. Fake people, stale, old, boring, outdated, innacurate, etc..etc..etc...

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@Majkiboy said:

Dude, so many people commenting without watching the video!

That's kind of how this has gone all along. Lots of freaking out and getting angry.. then blatantly not knowing a thing about the situation.

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too much green screen is bad

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Dude, so many people commenting without watching the video!

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they defected to gamespot and those lying turds?? hmmm i understand the reach to the people through their shit (gamespot) but fuck those hippe/hipster fake fuckholes

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@jt1080 said:

So many selfish ignorant comments. Be happy for them, jesus christ. This is awesome news and I want to congratulate everyone at the Giant Bomb team. You deserve this.

Can't wait to see what's next and collaborations with the GS team.

people here just want to protect GB and the crew from bad things because they like GB and the crew. its never cool to see good people get f***ed over so everyone is just a bit protective.. and considering the past and the reality of big companies, i can understand why people are weary.

Its good to grow, its good to make dreams come true, with or without outside help.. Everyone just hopes they stay Valve and dont turn into Activision.. thats all.

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@Matfei90 said:

@gunslingerNZ said:

@Switchthemunky said:

Now they've got a bit more cash, they should think about doing the World Tour.

That's exactly the sort of crazy homegrown spirit I feel will disappear with this move though... I mean think about it, that whole thing came about because of some drunk shit that was said on the street by the staff after spending the whole day livestreaming about topics as high brow as the best way to microwave bacon.

I can't see that taking place in this new office space. This really is an "office space" as well, a lot of that video stuff which organically developed in the WM open plan office and their original basement office just isn't going to happen on the 3rd floor of CBS towers...

I wouldn't want to hold them back and I'm happy the website is growing up but it's still sad to see.

This is what makes me sad. Losing the organic video content (which is what makes Giant Bomb and (the now old) Whiskey family so awesome and the prime reason I come to these websites and subscribed) will suck alot of the magic out of the personalities and totally insane antics we've come to expect and enjoy from these guys. Got my fingers crossed it wont happen, but I'm not optimistic in the long run.
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I really believe that this is a good thing :)

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@DiGiTaL_SiN said:

One thing is still unclear to me after all this, how come the Kane and Lynch video review completely contradicts the score they gave the game. Jeff starts the review with "Kane and Lynch is an Ugly Ugly game" and then the final score is like 6.0 which is considered "Fair", to me the video review felt more like a 3.0. And if you read the comments on the video review you'll see that I'm not the only one who thinks something is not right there.

I think Jeff should shed some light on what happened there specifically.

If you have been following the debacle for the beginning, you would have known that the video review wasn't even meant to be launched in its current form. Jeff mentioned multiple times that there were problems with the audio and that the final product was rushed and didn't reflect what they had hoped for.

And does the video review really hold any merit when it comes to written words? Forget the past and lets move on.

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@FreedomTown said:

@Legend said:

This whole thing is messed up. I don't like it. I don't like how they kept us in the dark for so long. I don't like the way they announced it. I don't like how Rorie (from what I can tell from his tweets) had no idea they were going to announce it when they did. I don't like how even he doesn't know exactly what will happen to Screened. I don't like any of it.
This decision was %100 business. The staff knows how much many of us hate Gamespot. They know we would've supported them even more if they were about to go out of business. Seriously, imagine how much money people would give on, say, Kickstarter to keep the site going. But no, they didn't care about any of that. They just found themselves a good business deal and went with it whether the users like it or not. And from what I can tell, most users don't like it one bit. They didn't even explain why they made that decision in the first place, and they probably never will (I'm guessing money but who knows). I'm just so disappointed to say the least...

Of course it is money. I agree with everything you stated here. This whole thing is a slap in the face. Most supporters of this have their head in the sand if they think GB and Gamespot will not merge....and more then likely.....everything will just be absorbed into Gamespot slowly but surely. This is just common sense.

Its also complete conjecture. You need to check your assumptions if you think any of that is "common sense".

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@FreedomTown said:

@SomeJerk said:

"The staff knows how much many of us hate Gamespot." Lemme correct that for ya. "The staff knows how much many of us are uninformed bumbling retards who think that the Gamespot of 2012 is the Gamespot of 2007." There.

No, I don't think anyone is confused over what year it is.

It is probably because people know the 2012 Gamespot is 1000x worse then the 2007 Gamespot. Have you actually went there lately? It is an embarrisment.

The community for this site lately has not been doing a stellar job of showing how much better the place would be without...

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What a crazy day that was....

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@SomeJerk said:

"The staff knows how much many of us hate Gamespot." Lemme correct that for ya. "The staff knows how much many of us are uninformed bumbling retards who think that the Gamespot of 2012 is the Gamespot of 2007." There.

No, I don't think anyone is confused over what year it is.

It is probably because people know the 2012 Gamespot is 1000x worse then the 2007 Gamespot. Have you actually went there lately? It is an embarrisment.

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I can't wait to see the great content moving forward.

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@Legend said:

This whole thing is messed up. I don't like it. I don't like how they kept us in the dark for so long. I don't like the way they announced it. I don't like how Rorie (from what I can tell from his tweets) had no idea they were going to announce it when they did. I don't like how even he doesn't know exactly what will happen to Screened. I don't like any of it.
This decision was %100 business. The staff knows how much many of us hate Gamespot. They know we would've supported them even more if they were about to go out of business. Seriously, imagine how much money people would give on, say, Kickstarter to keep the site going. But no, they didn't care about any of that. They just found themselves a good business deal and went with it whether the users like it or not. And from what I can tell, most users don't like it one bit. They didn't even explain why they made that decision in the first place, and they probably never will (I'm guessing money but who knows). I'm just so disappointed to say the least...

Of course it is money. I agree with everything you stated here. This whole thing is a slap in the face. Most supporters of this have their head in the sand if they think GB and Gamespot will not merge....and more then likely.....everything will just be absorbed into Gamespot slowly but surely. This is just common sense.

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@rjayb89 said:

DEATH TO RORIE

Poor Rorie, maybe he can turn the office into a Dog Day care Center :).

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Hmmm....nobody got that chill I did when Jeff noted the whole backdrop was a green screen. Just stop and think about warlords on that monster....or what they will due when drunk....

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What's going on with Matthew Rorie?!

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Just found a twitter account called CBSGiantBomb

I think its a hoax, but found it funny!

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Most of the hate here comes from ignorance. All the management that was in place when Jeff was fired is gone. I have stayed over at GameSpot and here since that happened and the GS guys and GB guys have regularly mentioned each other and reviews from each other etc.

Kevin Van Ord, Tom McShea, Justin Calvert, and the rest of those guys tell it like it is. I have heard McShea be just as critical about games as Jeff ever has been and even more so at times. It's been 5 years. Get over it.

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I've always liked John Davidson and it's good to see that everyone is happy.

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Somehow I am a bit MORE iffy about this combo than before I watched this interview. Still cautiously optimistic, though.

So wait - is British guy now Jeff's boss?

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I had fun playing Kane and Lynch D:

(I also bought it for about $20).

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Still excited for the news.

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@MmaFanQc said:

sooo.... Jeff Gerstmann was fired from Gamespot (CBS management) because they said he (Jeff) couldn't be trusted after he gave a poor score to a review....

now they go work for them again?

this wont end well.

It was CNET management at that time. CBS Interactive purchased CNET Networks in 2008 and if you have seen the video, Jeff mentions that if there was a problem with Gamespot you wouldn't have seen him On The Spot and this deal would have never happened. GS is not the devil as some people here are making it sound like.

Personally, I am glad that this is happening, not only it's good for the future of Giant Bomb but it's also good to see them put the past behind them and start with a clean slate.

Certainly looking forward the future of things.

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@SpicyRichter: Maybe not next week, but it will soon.