Sony Responds to Criticisms of PlayStation Network's 'Welcome Back' Lineup

People complaining about free stuff make me sad.

So, to paraphrase: "Tough shit"

I think the main problem with this is that they're just giving us stuff that, if you wanted, you most likely bought by now, and if you never got it, it doesn't mean much to you. And this is supposed to make up for having personal information stolen. Not to mention you can tell the reason they picked some of those games was just to drum up sales for sequels (InFamous 2 and LBP2). I didn't want or ask for free stuff, and hey, I'm sure I'll enjoy playing InFamous, since I was casually interested but never enough to get it myself. But the way they're handling it just kind of feels like a man in a suit tried to think of the cheapest way to get everybody to like them again.

Should have just given some of us some in store credit, IMHO.

Detecting gross levels of entitlement.

The only one of those I don't have is Wipeout HD

Just give me that awesome cardboard box hat in the picture and I'd be happy!

INSANE that the people who had all these get nothing.

Should have offered a voucher of some online money equivalent to the current value of games available so people can choose to spend on what they want on PSN. But no, that is just too sensible for Sony. 

Cool. I don't own Wipeout or Stardust, so I'm happy. Maybe they should just give credit, but come on people, who else is handing out free games?

Detecting gross levels of entitlement.

Wow, what a dick.

@RE_Player92: 

as opposed to what? Giving players games they either already have or that are cheap to come by anyway? In the end they're still giving stuff away for free so whether it was wallet cash or a free game, they're still not getting those sales

Gamers are such self-entitled pieces of shit. It doesn't surprise me that people whined in that thread and are now whining in this one. Always want a handout and always complain if it's not the handout you want.

Suck it up, losers.

I am one of those that has most but not all of those 5 free games. Dead Nation is what I don't have because I never wanted it in the first place. I have inFamous, LBP, Ratchet & Clank QFB and WipEout HD so I am kinda out of luck.

Maybe a pick 2 games or pick to have some money put in your wallet scheme would have worked a treat for those who own those games already.

Should have offered a voucher of some online money equivalent to the current value of games available so people can choose to spend on what they want on PSN. But no, that is just too sensible for Sony. 

@Mystyr_E said:

@RE_Player92: 

as opposed to what? Giving players games they either already have or that are cheap to come by anyway? In the end they're still giving stuff away for free so whether it was wallet cash or a free game, they're still not getting those sales

If Sony gave everyone say $20 and they went and spent that on a game not published by Sony than Sony would have to pay that company. 77 million users x $20 = $1.54 billion. They are giving away first party games because they are neither making a profit or losing money, well except that they are losing potential sales, but it's not costing them. I understand you might not like the games offered or you have all of them, which is terrible and I do feel sorry for you, but expecting them to hand out money is crazy. 

It must be a slow day for news or something

ignore the meta critic rating and just make it a choice instead of 'pick from a tiny handful'

The fact that something needed to be said by Sony regarding someone's gross sense of entitlement makes me a sad panda.

I don't think he even had to do that much. I'm sure for 90% of the population, this offering will be just fine. They did what they could to offer actual valuable games that people would want to play, but that still won't work for everyone. I don't own InFamous (though I already borrowed it off a friend and played it to completion twice) or Dead Nation (which is apparently meh), but I guess that's what I'll be taking, cause I have the rest of them. And hey guess what? That's still 2 free games for me.

                Gamers are such self-entitled pieces of shit. It doesn't surprise me that people whined in that thread and are now whining in this one. Always want a handout and always complain if it's not the handout you want.
           

Can't believe how people are seriously pissed about this...

Detecting gross levels of entitlement.

Oh, you don't like those free games that you don't deserve in any way form or fashion but which you are being given regardless? Hmmm, well then, sir, may I interest you in cancer of the loins instead?

Also there is still no proof that the hackers got credit info other than those on the SOE games....Even if they do, all you have to do is get a new card with a new number....most banks allow you to do that online without even setting foot into a bank.

Seems gamers are misdirecting their anger here as it seems the hackers are more to blame than Sony is.  It just seems as if there's nothing Sony can do to win short of letting gamers have full access into some sort of Sony money bin. 

Iam one of the people that owns every game except for the DLC for Wipeout. I find it hard to believe that they could not pick a collection of games that not everyone owns. I want to state that I fully appreciate what they are doing but sadly for me I am not getting a lot from this promotion.

The fact that something needed to be said by Sony regarding someone's gross sense of entitlement makes me a sad panda.

So. Who's most likely to own all those games? People who we're actually the most affected by the outage. The hardcore sony fans.

@bko said:

                Gamers are such self-entitled pieces of shit. It doesn't surprise me that people whined in that thread and are now whining in this one. Always want a handout and always complain if it's not the handout you want.
           

Yeah I know right, we all should put up and shut up as our credit details are SONY's property and every hacker's property as well. So therefore we should'nt get a choice of of games we want over very high risk possible loss of complete life savings, but hey that dosn't matter when we get a couple of old free games.

@Odc said:

@Novyx said:

Kinda half-assed response.

What else can he say though? He speaks the truth!

Actually, he's being disingenuous at best.  Super Stardust HD, Dead Nation, and Wipeout HD are "cheaper PSN titles".

@Chubbaluphigous said:

The fact that something needed to be said by Sony regarding someone's gross sense of entitlement makes me a sad panda.

There are legitimate complaints that can be made about that selection.  How hard would it be for Sony to toss in a few more first party titles?  Maybe offer a discount on a newer first party title.  People still only get to pick two, but if you offer a few more games it is less likely that people already have all of them.

INSANE peoples' sense of entitlement...

I previously owned infamous and LBP but traded those in a while ago.
Now that Infamous 2 is coming out, I'm probably getting Infamous to get hype for Infamous 2.

I've had no problem with my bank account, no weird transactions or anything.
I think Sony has done more than enough. 2 free games, that's more than I expected

I don't think he even had to do that much. I'm sure for 90% of the population, this offering will be just fine. They did what they could to offer actual valuable games that people would want to play, but that still won't work for everyone. I don't own InFamous (though I already borrowed it off a friend and played it to completion twice) or Dead Nation (which is apparently meh), but I guess that's what I'll be taking, cause I have the rest of them. And hey guess what? That's still 2 free games for me.

GAWD people.

GAWD.

Siren: Blood Curse
Joe Danger
Shatter
God of War 1 & 2 HD
Pixel Junk Shooter
MAG
Warhawk
ModNation Racers PS3

Add those titles to the PS3 list and I think you'd cover everyone. First-party/exclusive titles that Sony won't lose money on, all old(ish) games, some of which (Warhawk, MAG) could probably do with a nice boost of new players online (who would probably be graped in the mouth five seconds in).

I don't feel thanked for my patience. I feel barely recognized for my patience, which in turn gives me less patience than I had before when they needed my patience.

But it's honestly not a big deal. I'm glad I will be able to go online again, and for those who don't have the games on the list are a) way late to the party and b) in for a treat. Hopefully, if nothing else, this helps boost interest for Infamous 2.

@bko said:

                Gamers are such self-entitled pieces of shit. It doesn't surprise me that people whined in that thread and are now whining in this one. Always want a handout and always complain if it's not the handout you want.
           

Yeah I know right, we all should put up and shut up as our credit details are SONY's property and every hacker's property as well. So therefore we should'nt get a choice of of games we want over very high risk possible loss of complete life savings, but hey that dosn't matter when we get a couple of old free games.

The man is right. The games on that list are all amazing, which is why I bought all of them when they came out. 
What they should have done is offer a larger selection of games and/or more recent titles. It certainly feels like a kick in the nuts to people like me who already own everything on that list... For example I wouldn't mind Warhawk and it's expansions (to prepare for the sequel) or even something like MAG. 

No Sony, it is not hard to offer something for everyone. It is really easy in fact. Just put some money on our PSN wallet. Voilà, everyone's pleased.

Boo fucking hoo, people.

The man is right. The games on that list are all amazing, which is why I bought all of them when they came out.  What they should have done is offer a larger selection of games and/or more recent titles. It certainly feels like a kick in the nuts to people like me who already own everything on that list... For example I wouldn't mind Warhawk and it's expansions (to prepare for the sequel) or even something like MAG. 

Cleaning out the bargain bin, how nice of them.

Actually if Sony offered free versions of games with sequels coming up, it'd probably be decent marketing for those sequels.  (provided that the first games were good of course.)  I'm sure Infamous 2 sales is gonna get a boost now that every single PS3 owner has the ability to get a free copy for the first game.

I don't own them all so I am happy for once for being poor as hell.  Thanks Sony!

man some people are only happen unless they get a credit.  no they are not gonna put money in your wallet. jesus

I think a wider selection would have made redundancy less of a problem.  But I am 100% fine with getting LBP and Pursuit Force for my PSP since I hear they are good and never planned on  buying them.  I'll probably get Wipeout and Dead Nation just to have some different MP games to play with my brother!

 @MordeaniisChaos:
The reason these are the games they picked is because they're all SCEA games. In other words they don't cost Sony much to give away. They can't very well give you a credit for the store because you might buy a Third Party game which would cost Sony a ton of money.

$40 PSN credit.  It literally costs them nothing.