During this week 's Bombcast, Ryan mentioned it was apparent where the third game would be set...did I miss something, because I just finished the game and I didn't see any overly apparent hints. It won't be set in the current AC universe (present) as they mention Desmond getting back into the Animus, but beyond that I didn't see anything that made it obvious.
Assassin's Creed II
Game » consists of 27 releases. Released Nov 17, 2009
The second installment in the Assassin's Creed franchise follows the life of Ezio Auditore da Firenze as he seeks revenge on those who betrayed his family.
Assassin's Creed 3 Setting? (spoilers)
There@alConn said:
" During this week 's Bombcast, Ryan mentioned it was apparent where the third game would be set...did I miss something, because I just finished the game and I didn't see any overly apparent hints. It won't be set in the current AC universe (present) as they mention Desmond getting back into the Animus, but beyond that I didn't see anything that made it obvious. "I believe we might have to jump one more time-line before leaving the animus for good. It'll probably be around the WWII era or as I like to call it, the Nazi time-line.
No the end of the game is you and the rest of the Assassins leaving for a new base of operations where you will be safe, they put you back in for the trip. Its pretty much to explain why you can go back and screw around in the world. The ending sets up that you will play as Desmond in 2012, also it was sick to get to assassinate people as Demond.
" No the end of the game is you and the rest of the Assassins leaving for a new base of operations where you will be safe, they put you back in for the trip. Its pretty much to explain why you can go back and screw around in the world. The ending sets up that you will play as Desmond in 2012, also it was sick to get to assassinate people as Demond. "This.
Them talking about hooking you up back up to the animus was just to give an excuse to let you free roam after you complete the game.
It's fairly obvious that the 3rd one will take place in present day, because at the end of the game you are fighting Templars as Desmond.
"No the end of the game is you and the rest of the Assassins leaving for a new base of operations where you will be safe, they put you back in for the trip. Its pretty much to explain why you can go back and screw around in the world. The ending sets up that you will play as Desmond in 2012, also it was sick to get to assassinate people as Demond. "
Hohohohohoooo! Man, that's awesome.
Plus Desmond got that hooded sweater, so he'll probably just gonna be using that the whole game. Just saying.
"When Lucy tossed me a wrist blade when I was Desmond and I was just thinking "YES YES YES YES!" In the end i was satisfied it was not just for show. "
My first thought was "OH SHi--! FUCK!" That part was great.
" When Lucy tossed me a wrist blade when I was Desmond and I was just thinking "YES YES YES YES!""I was thinking "Wait a minute, isn't this supposed to be the future? How about giving me a fucking gun? I mean, what the hell do you think the enemies are going to be equipped with? Batons?"
And then they totally were. I was baffled. The most powerful organization on Earth has lost a valuable asset, and send out an elite(I assume) team armed with... batons? I mean come on.
" @CL60 said:" When Lucy tossed me a wrist blade when I was Desmond and I was just thinking "YES YES YES YES!""I was thinking "Wait a minute, isn't this supposed to be the future? How about giving me a fucking gun? I mean, what the hell do you think the enemies are going to be equipped with? Batons?"
And then they totally were. I was baffled. The most powerful organization on Earth has lost a valuable asset, and send out an elite(I assume) team armed with... batons? I mean come on. "
You have to remember that Desmond is key to the Templars understanding anything about what's going to happen. They aren't privy to the same information that Desmond and Lucy are, so presumably would want to keep them both (or at least Desmond) alive to recover the memories about what actually happened in the Vault. They, like everyone in the 15th Century, assumed that a group of 12-15 guys is enough to subdue one assassin..
There are plenty of non-lethal options that are way more effective than batons. They could have used knockout gas, tranquilizer rounds, electric rounds... but batons? Seriously?" @Icemael said:
" @CL60 said:You have to remember that Desmond is key to the Templars understanding anything about what's going to happen. They aren't privy to the same information that Desmond and Lucy are, so presumably would want to keep them both (or at least Desmond) alive to recover the memories about what actually happened in the Vault. They, like everyone in the 15th Century, assumed that a group of 12-15 guys is enough to subdue one assassin.. "" When Lucy tossed me a wrist blade when I was Desmond and I was just thinking "YES YES YES YES!""I was thinking "Wait a minute, isn't this supposed to be the future? How about giving me a fucking gun? I mean, what the hell do you think the enemies are going to be equipped with? Batons?"
And then they totally were. I was baffled. The most powerful organization on Earth has lost a valuable asset, and send out an elite(I assume) team armed with... batons? I mean come on. "
But wouldn't any of those methods mentioned leave Desmond completely unprepared and thus break our illusion of the assassins being badasses? Desmond's training took place 500 years previously, so he's likely to be completely buggered if anyone produces someting other than a stick (either sharpened or others). I certainly hope that in AC3 they manage to find some kind of spurious reason for enemies to still rely on batons for the entire game - I enjoy the random presence of Batons in otherwise futuristic and crazy hi-tech games.
" But wouldn't any of those methods mentioned leave Desmond completely unprepared and thus break our illusion of the assassins being badasses? Desmond's training took place 500 years previously, so he's likely to be completely buggered if anyone produces someting other than a stick (either sharpened or others).Of course, and that's why they had to put dudes with batons in the game. But while it makes sense from a gameplay perspective, it doesn't make any sense at all in the game's setting.
" Modern day or near future would be a horrible idea. For me the whole appeal of the assassins creed series is that the majority of the game is set in an historical place. Assassins Creed 3: Modern Warfare would just be a Splinter Cell game. "THIS
*the following speculations are littered with spoilers*
It is safe to assume the bulk of AC3 will take place in the game's present. If you look at Subject 16's video (you'll probaby need to solve all 20 puzzles to get a better look) an early setting seems to be established already. However, i can't imagine the whole animus concept being dropped and i'm sure they'll come up with a reason to get desmond back in the machine. which ancestor? which time period? since AC2 seems to lean heavily toward religion, i could see Desmond jumping in and out of year 0, or even before. The two people's names in the video are Adam and Eve. They seem to be enhanced somehow, illuminated lines (glyphs maybe) adorn their back, but they are scared shitless and are endangered. Eve is holding The Apple. Adam at least, must be a descendant from Adam (da vinci code anyone?) this all leans toward a futuristic end-of-the-world scenario meets ancient prophecies. I can see the game shifting back and forth between the fight for the world, which will in good habit, build up gradually, while in the animus desmond will seek out jezus for valuable information...Ok that last part is a joke.
ofcourse, The fact that Adam bares the same name as his descendant seems shady and oversimplified. It would be too easy. Perhaps he's a walking animus? 3.0?
Let us not forget the alien in holographic form that could have its own agenda, manipulation is a trademark of the series, "she" (Minerva) could work with Desmond only to turn against him when her species has retrieved the apple and staff. we don't know her true motives. Lastly, and possibly the most intruiging in all of this, i think we haven't seen the last of Altaïr. Ezio was a fine character but i think his story ends right there and then at the end of AC2. Altair is i think a key figure. In codex page 30, Altair is presumably aged and dying. He writes something along the lines of "it couldn't hurt to look at it one last time" he is referring to the Apple. This implies he could still be alive, i assume this apple has an undying ability. He might appear as a god like being, perhaps a guide to desmond. What if he's evil? Desmond could turn him back to the" good" side, they then will fight along side each other, defeating the alien species/and/or/templars. Clash of the titans? He's obviously not in possession of The Apple anymore but he could somehow have, just because he's Altaïr, been promoted to GOD.
One relevant aspect of this is wether AC3 is the last installment or not. If not then none of this really matters and the premise could just be milked endlessly. I will say that the way Ubisoft Montreal present their intruige is quite unusually mesmerizing and it sure looks like they know where they're going with this, but like all third and (presumably) last installments it could have a hard time coming to a decent conclusion. Especially with these end of the world scenarios, it's hard to just kill off everyone , but even more unsatisfying to get all the answers, cuz it's about the journey right?
i am obviously completely wrong about all of this, and for the better because i wanna be surprised. All i hope is that it ends with a bit more spectacle than AC2
" @Magnum said:SAM FISHER IS A TEMPLAR" Modern day or near future would be a horrible idea. For me the whole appeal of the assassins creed series is that the majority of the game is set in an historical place. Assassins Creed 3: Modern Warfare would just be a Splinter Cell game. "THIS "
ASSASSIN'S CREED VS. SPLINTER CELL GO
I agree with the whole "modern setting would be terrible thing". I loved the historical settings, and I don't want gunplay, or a lame excuse for why there isn't gunplay. Just send Desmond back into the past, and have Desmond do his thing in the future in between sessions, but don't set the whole game in the present.
All this talk has really made me realize that I do really like the story. Not many games have me thinking about the ending after I play it. One of the better games this year. Great improvement I thought the first one came off as cheesy.
We will all know everything this spring when Splinter Cell comes out. Or thats what this new Ubisoft.com tracking stuff is all about. There just going to combine all there games into a giant voice controlled MMO. Rainbow, AC everything
They won't set it 100% in the present. Exploring interesting historical periods, not often covered by entertainment media, is what AC is all about. That said i expect to see more real world stuff along with the animus leading up to one hell of a climax :)
If they were going to have AC3 set in modern day times I think they would of had Desmond pulling up his hood as the last shot of the game, also the series is set in 2012 (maybe they will tie it in with the end of the world...) which could be when AC3/4 is released maybe hinting that itsn going to be modern day
" If they were going to have AC3 set in modern day times I think they would of had Desmond pulling up his hood as the last shot of the game, also the series is set in 2012 (maybe they will tie it in with the end of the world...) which could be when AC3/4 is released maybe hinting that itsn going to be modern day "Well the ending strongly points towards you playing as Desmond in the next game. Since the next game is the last one, these 2 games were all a setup to the big finale of playing as Desmond. Lucy passes you a wrist blade and boom..you know all of ezios skills it would seem. Then you jump into the truck. ( I'm not counting the part where they say get back into the animus as we make our way to the cabin. as part of the story because it was obviously just a way to explain you being able to go back in and free roam after the story is complete.)
Hell, the very beginning of the next game may show Desmond getting out of the truck with all the other people while putting his hood up.
Well the entire point of Desmond being in the Animus in AC2 was to train him. So the theories about playing as him in AC3 makes alot of sense.
" Well the entire point of Desmond being in the Animus in AC2 was to train him. So the theories about playing as him in AC3 makes alot of sense. "The point may have been to train him but hearing what Minerva had to say in the Vault ended up being even more important. Her words were likely stuck in Ezios memory for centuries, just waiting for Desmond to relive them and hear her warning. So there's something special about him aside from being yet another modern day assassin trained via Animus, and it may have to do with being able to control the bleeding effect that drove Subject 16 mad. And that guy was all over the place historically.
" @fresh2deafbill said:As weird as that sounds, it would actually make me want to play Assassin's Creed III." @Magnum said:SAM FISHER IS A TEMPLAR ASSASSIN'S CREED VS. SPLINTER CELL GO "" Modern day or near future would be a horrible idea. For me the whole appeal of the assassins creed series is that the majority of the game is set in an historical place. Assassins Creed 3: Modern Warfare would just be a Splinter Cell game. "THIS "
"You're on to some stuff here, but I disagree on the "Truth" video aspect of your speculation. It seemed to me like that was actually Adam and Eve. Minerva was speaking of a war between humankind and the old race, and presumably, Adam and Eve were the first to realise that they were being ruled by this Old Race. Seeing that their power lay mostly in technology, Adam and Eve likely stole a piece of eden (Think Atlantis for the Old Race, and a place where humans were subject to work under the old race, dominated by their technology) to attempt to rebel against the Old Race; this probably sparked the war Minerva talked about.
*the following speculations are littered with spoilers*
It is safe to assume the bulk of AC3 will take place in the game's present. If you look at Subject 16's video (you'll probaby need to solve all 20 puzzles to get a better look) an early setting seems to be established already. However, i can't imagine the whole animus concept being dropped and i'm sure they'll come up with a reason to get desmond back in the machine. which ancestor? which time period? since AC2 seems to lean heavily toward religion, i could see Desmond jumping in and out of year 0, or even before. The two people's names in the video are Adam and Eve. They seem to be enhanced somehow, illuminated lines (glyphs maybe) adorn their back, but they are scared shitless and are endangered. Eve is holding The Apple. Adam at least, must be a descendant from Adam (da vinci code anyone?) this all leans toward a futuristic end-of-the-world scenario meets ancient prophecies. I can see the game shifting back and forth between the fight for the world, which will in good habit, build up gradually, while in the animus desmond will seek out jezus for valuable information...Ok that last part is a joke.
ofcourse, The fact that Adam bares the same name as his descendant seems shady and oversimplified. It would be too easy. Perhaps he's a walking animus? 3.0?
Let us not forget the alien in holographic form that could have its own agenda, manipulation is a trademark of the series, "she" (Minerva) could work with Desmond only to turn against him when her species has retrieved the apple and staff. we don't know her true motives. Lastly, and possibly the most intruiging in all of this, i think we haven't seen the last of Altaïr. Ezio was a fine character but i think his story ends right there and then at the end of AC2. Altair is i think a key figure. In codex page 30, Altair is presumably aged and dying. He writes something along the lines of "it couldn't hurt to look at it one last time" he is referring to the Apple. This implies he could still be alive, i assume this apple has an undying ability. He might appear as a god like being, perhaps a guide to desmond. What if he's evil? Desmond could turn him back to the" good" side, they then will fight along side each other, defeating the alien species/and/or/templars. Clash of the titans? He's obviously not in possession of The Apple anymore but he could somehow have, just because he's Altaïr, been promoted to GOD.
One relevant aspect of this is wether AC3 is the last installment or not. If not then none of this really matters and the premise could just be milked endlessly. I will say that the way Ubisoft Montreal present their intruige is quite unusually mesmerizing and it sure looks like they know where they're going with this, but like all third and (presumably) last installments it could have a hard time coming to a decent conclusion. Especially with these end of the world scenarios, it's hard to just kill off everyone , but even more unsatisfying to get all the answers, cuz it's about the journey right?
i am obviously completely wrong about all of this, and for the better because i wanna be surprised. All i hope is that it ends with a bit more spectacle than AC2 "
There's clearly more here, but that's just what I got out of it.
" @Jeff said:That's just contrived enough to work in a Metal Gear game. Maybe do some across the ocean collaboration." @fresh2deafbill said:As weird as that sounds, it would actually make me want to play Assassin's Creed III. "" @Magnum said:SAM FISHER IS A TEMPLAR ASSASSIN'S CREED VS. SPLINTER CELL GO "" Modern day or near future would be a horrible idea. For me the whole appeal of the assassins creed series is that the majority of the game is set in an historical place. Assassins Creed 3: Modern Warfare would just be a Splinter Cell game. "THIS "
" @McDom said:+1000 it would make for a shitty game. once you bring real guns into the game, it would have to move to more of a sleath game with less action. or maybe less of an open world and more like Batman. the last scene with the guys with batons was fun, but pretty silly when you think about it. also giving Desmond a AK47 the game would lose its flow, and become stop and pop. the sci-fi story was much better in this game, but without going to a great historical setting in the 3rd it will suck." But wouldn't any of those methods mentioned leave Desmond completely unprepared and thus break our illusion of the assassins being badasses? Desmond's training took place 500 years previously, so he's likely to be completely buggered if anyone produces someting other than a stick (either sharpened or others).Of course, and that's why they had to put dudes with batons in the game. But while it makes sense from a gameplay perspective, it doesn't make any sense at all in the game's setting. "
What I believe to happen from what happened in the game: They told Desmond when he first came out of the Animus that the bleeding effect has driven the others crazy and it would not be so bad if they could control it not to worry because he is not showing any bad signs but later on it seems that he is. I think that he will be able to control them and jump back and forth through time without the Animus in the next game but will also be fighting in the present due to the credits fight.
Come on it's got to be either the french revolutionary war, or the american revolutionary war. (I think they'll both happen in later games.) They reference both those time periods in the Animus Gliffs.
" @Pie said:" If they were going to have AC3 set in modern day times I think they would of had Desmond pulling up his hood as the last shot of the game, also the series is set in 2012 (maybe they will tie it in with the end of the world...) which could be when AC3/4 is released maybe hinting that itsn going to be modern day "Well the ending strongly points towards you playing as Desmond in the next game. Since the next game is the last one, these 2 games were all a setup to the big finale of playing as Desmond. Lucy passes you a wrist blade and boom..you know all of ezios skills it would seem. Then you jump into the truck. ( I'm not counting the part where they say get back into the animus as we make our way to the cabin. as part of the story because it was obviously just a way to explain you being able to go back in and free roam after the story is complete.) Hell, the very beginning of the next game may show Desmond getting out of the truck with all the other people while putting his hood up. "
At the very very end of the game, after playing as Desmond, Lucy Talks about the worlds magnetic field and the flipping of the Poles causing a global catastrophe (also note the game is set in 2012). One of the many theories about how the world could end at the end of the mayan calender is the one Lucy just told you about, if you bother to look it up. Now the Advanced race, whatever they are called, warns you that unless you Visit ALL of the sacred places/temples that were built by people a long time ago who diverged from the supposed endless wars of mankind and favoured a more peaceful approach (i.e. Religious folk) then the world would turn to ash (or something similar). And considering that all the codex pages lined up properly make a map of the world with different points marked out, Im going to assume that the next game would be a globe-trotting affair where you must track down and visit each holy place.
i'm glad you were paying attention to what minerva said cuz i forgot all of it, and just made a theory based on what i remembered :p, yes what you say seems more accurate.
Well, for those who thinks that we wont go back in memory, you will most likely be wrong, because of the bleeding effect.
Most likely we will visit Altair again, since we did it again in the 2. game.
But i still think that we will be somewhat more in present time, and place the apples around the temples in the globe. preventing the end of the world.
The game also talks about an ancient race (those who came before) and this i find interesting.
The First human that walked the earth, said that they were made by others that came to us, and later traveled, only to come back again.
The Mayan Calendar is based on these people, who are long dead (as well as the mayans).
So, their calendar ends 12.21.2012, And because it is based on he first people ( **Spoiler**that could possibly be Adam and Eve**Spoiler**)
So because their calendar end in 2012, that could be when those who came before came back?
Just a thought
The WWII or even WWI idea is a very poor idea for the assassin's creed games. It takes away most of what makes the game good, ubisoft were pushing it by giving Ezio the gun in the first place and to give the next one things like SMGs just destroys it.
Altair is likely to return in the third one but only like in the second one, a flashback.
The era of Feudal Japan seems to be the most logical in perspective of the Assassins. Plus, who doesn't want to fight ninjas and samurai.
The creed and brotherhood being removed from the game was a large blow considering the brotherhood was a key part in the first game and the revenge story made it seem less like a profession, an art if you will, and more like a chore to kill all those people.
The constant switching between Desmond and the next one could also provide more variety for the game, especially if you don't need the animus anymore, so they could have half the time spent as Desmond fighting, apparently, the apocalypse and the Templars, and the other half as an ancestor killing more Templars and unraveling the mystery of the pieces of eden, possibly play a Kunoichi named Washi (Japanese: Eagle)
Dude the whole point of the dream sequence
I just finished it, and yes, what I interpreted out of it was either that it will take place in another timeline (maybe not WW2 which is what the saboteur is going to do, and the platforming is pretty similar). What it somewhat hinted, and what I hope, is that it will take place in a present future. It would've been amazing if you could climb around a semi-futuristic city around the design of the environment you walk around in between animus sessions. As Desmond learns from the animus, he gets the ability to climb around, using the moves that Ezio had. In the end of the game he has learned most of Ezio's abilities, so why not? Anyway, I'm really exited for Assassins Creed 3, and what it brings.
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