So much for worrying about space this generation. Next gen sure, but it doesn't seem like it'll be an issue.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13591900
It's typically 4-6 GBs
Games Aren't Even Coming Close to Filling Disks Up
"So what? Good games are coming out anyways ._______________."I don't think he's saying this as a negative point. It is most likely related to a argument that some people use about how the blue-ray is so much better because it has more space and soon games won't fit in a dvd. He's showing that that's bull.
You're wrong...it's that simple. Games that are heavy on cut-scenes and have a lot of audio work will fill fast, especially if they decide to include every audio track (all languages). That is why MGS4 took up so much space (though I also believe they weren't doing a good job with compression)...the same will happen with FFXIII and other cut-scene heavy games.
"You're wrong...it's that simple. Games that are heavy on cut-scenes and have a lot of audio work will fill fast, especially if they decide to include every audio track (all languages). That is why MGS4 took up so much space (though I also believe they weren't doing a good job with compression)...the same will happen with FFXIII and other cut-scene heavy games."
And this has relevance to this thread?
Yea, FF13, FF Versus 13, Cry On, etc. (yea, I said Versus, oh snap!) will come on multiple disks for the 360. But that's only because they have lots of video. That's really a different case altogether. The multiple disk games on that list support my point. Ones without movies are relatively small.
You know, there's already a couple multiple disk games out- Lost odyssey, Blue Dragon, Infinite Undiscovery, and the Last Remnant
That has no impact at all. I'm talking about straight up game content which is what matters seeing as how an open world or whatever could be gimped by this. Ones with lots of video can just seperate video into different disks.
Something tells me you were just trying to spin what I'm saying to say i'm wrong. What I'm getting at is it's not like the Sega CD where games in general were barely fitting on and even games without many cutscenes were shipping on multiple disks.
"Kush said:"You're wrong...it's that simple. Games that are heavy on cut-scenes and have a lot of audio work will fill fast, especially if they decide to include every audio track (all languages). That is why MGS4 took up so much space (though I also believe they weren't doing a good job with compression)...the same will happen with FFXIII and other cut-scene heavy games."
And this has relevance to this thread?
Yea, FF13, FF Versus 13, Cry On, etc. (yea, I said Versus, oh snap!) will come on multiple disks for the 360. But that's only because they have lots of video. That's really a different case altogether. The multiple disk games on that list support my point. Ones without movies are relatively small."
lol wut? He just addressed your argument with a rebuttal, explaining why MGS4 took so much space and why other games will as well. How is that not relevant to this thread?
360 games have a max size of 6.8GB installed. So there are a fair amount of games that probably were scaled back in SOME WAY to fit on a DVD.
There was a Fable 2 development video where they showed Peter Molyneux's notepad and he wrote something about fitting onto a single DVD. Fable 2 installed is 6.8GB BTW.
"SmugDarkLoser said:Uncompressed audio is a bitch."Kush said:"You're wrong...it's that simple. Games that are heavy on cut-scenes and have a lot of audio work will fill fast, especially if they decide to include every audio track (all languages). That is why MGS4 took up so much space (though I also believe they weren't doing a good job with compression)...the same will happen with FFXIII and other cut-scene heavy games."
And this has relevance to this thread?
Yea, FF13, FF Versus 13, Cry On, etc. (yea, I said Versus, oh snap!) will come on multiple disks for the 360. But that's only because they have lots of video. That's really a different case altogether. The multiple disk games on that list support my point. Ones without movies are relatively small."
lol wut? He just addressed your argument with a rebuttal, explaining why MGS4 took so much space and why other games will as well. How is that not relevant to this thread?"
But no, that is not relevant. Ps3 games are different from X360 games. They use different tech for compression and Ps3 games have been known to be larger simply due to repeated content in order to compensate for load times.
Resistance 1 was like 20 GBs. No way in hell did that deliver anything more content wise than any other game.
"BiggerBomb said:"SmugDarkLoser said:Uncompressed audio is a bitch."Kush said:"You're wrong...it's that simple. Games that are heavy on cut-scenes and have a lot of audio work will fill fast, especially if they decide to include every audio track (all languages). That is why MGS4 took up so much space (though I also believe they weren't doing a good job with compression)...the same will happen with FFXIII and other cut-scene heavy games."
And this has relevance to this thread?
Yea, FF13, FF Versus 13, Cry On, etc. (yea, I said Versus, oh snap!) will come on multiple disks for the 360. But that's only because they have lots of video. That's really a different case altogether. The multiple disk games on that list support my point. Ones without movies are relatively small."
lol wut? He just addressed your argument with a rebuttal, explaining why MGS4 took so much space and why other games will as well. How is that not relevant to this thread?"
But no, that is not relevant. Ps3 games are different from X360 games. They use different tech for compression and Ps3 games have been known to be larger simply due to repeated content in order to compensate for load times.
Resistance 1 was like 20 GBs. No way in hell did that deliver anything more content wise than any other game.
"
That's not relevant.
do u c wut i did ther?
"SmugDarkLoser said:"BiggerBomb said:"SmugDarkLoser said:Uncompressed audio is a bitch."Kush said:"You're wrong...it's that simple. Games that are heavy on cut-scenes and have a lot of audio work will fill fast, especially if they decide to include every audio track (all languages). That is why MGS4 took up so much space (though I also believe they weren't doing a good job with compression)...the same will happen with FFXIII and other cut-scene heavy games."
And this has relevance to this thread?
Yea, FF13, FF Versus 13, Cry On, etc. (yea, I said Versus, oh snap!) will come on multiple disks for the 360. But that's only because they have lots of video. That's really a different case altogether. The multiple disk games on that list support my point. Ones without movies are relatively small."
lol wut? He just addressed your argument with a rebuttal, explaining why MGS4 took so much space and why other games will as well. How is that not relevant to this thread?"
But no, that is not relevant. Ps3 games are different from X360 games. They use different tech for compression and Ps3 games have been known to be larger simply due to repeated content in order to compensate for load times.
Resistance 1 was like 20 GBs. No way in hell did that deliver anything more content wise than any other game.
"
That's not relevant.
do u c wut i did ther?"
Why are you trying to act like an asshole?
No, it isn't relevant. PS3 games are infamous for repeating content to make load times shorter. probably the same case.
Numbers show stuff and it all points towards space not being an issue.
"BiggerBomb said:"SmugDarkLoser said:"BiggerBomb said:"SmugDarkLoser said:Uncompressed audio is a bitch."Kush said:"You're wrong...it's that simple. Games that are heavy on cut-scenes and have a lot of audio work will fill fast, especially if they decide to include every audio track (all languages). That is why MGS4 took up so much space (though I also believe they weren't doing a good job with compression)...the same will happen with FFXIII and other cut-scene heavy games."
And this has relevance to this thread?
Yea, FF13, FF Versus 13, Cry On, etc. (yea, I said Versus, oh snap!) will come on multiple disks for the 360. But that's only because they have lots of video. That's really a different case altogether. The multiple disk games on that list support my point. Ones without movies are relatively small."
lol wut? He just addressed your argument with a rebuttal, explaining why MGS4 took so much space and why other games will as well. How is that not relevant to this thread?"
But no, that is not relevant. Ps3 games are different from X360 games. They use different tech for compression and Ps3 games have been known to be larger simply due to repeated content in order to compensate for load times.
Resistance 1 was like 20 GBs. No way in hell did that deliver anything more content wise than any other game.
"
That's not relevant.
do u c wut i did ther?"
Why are you trying to act like an asshole?
No, it isn't relevant. PS3 games are infamous for repeating content to make load times shorter. probably the same case.
Numbers show stuff and it all points towards space not being an issue."
I'm not trying to be an asshole nor am I being an asshole. I'm calling you out on you pulling stuff out of your ass and then shoving your fingers in your ears when someone responds.
"360 games have a max size of 6.8GB installed. So there are a fair amount of games that probably were scaled back in SOME WAY to fit on a DVD.
There was a Fable 2 development video where they showed Peter Molyneux's notepad and he wrote something about fitting onto a single DVD. Fable 2 installed is 6.8GB BTW."
DVD 9s can hold roughly 9000 mbs, so umm... where's the missing space exactly?
"Ichi said:I think what Ichi is trying to say is that there are some development houses that cut a bunch of their games' content out in order to fit onto a single DVD."360 games have a max size of 6.8GB installed. So there are a fair amount of games that probably were scaled back in SOME WAY to fit on a DVD.
There was a Fable 2 development video where they showed Peter Molyneux's notepad and he wrote something about fitting onto a single DVD. Fable 2 installed is 6.8GB BTW."
DVD 9s can hold roughly 9000 mbs, so umm... where's the missing space exactly?
"
I was always under the assumption that most PS3 games could fit on a dvd if they used the same compression/design techniques as 360 games. If you're making a game on a disk that has way more space than you need, what incentive do you have to compress it? This whole space issue is really a non-issue for most games, I think it was used initially to generate some hype for blu-ray and the "superiority" of the format. Yeah, one day we'll need it, but that day just isn't here yet.
"Ichi said:Security data, I'll bet dashboard update data & space for future uses as defined by Microsoft."360 games have a max size of 6.8GB installed. So there are a fair amount of games that probably were scaled back in SOME WAY to fit on a DVD.
There was a Fable 2 development video where they showed Peter Molyneux's notepad and he wrote something about fitting onto a single DVD. Fable 2 installed is 6.8GB BTW."
DVD 9s can hold roughly 9000 mbs, so umm... where's the missing space exactly?
"
"All I can say is that with every new thread I find SmugDarkLoser to become an even bigger idiot. I think he has officially become the most annoying person on GB."
The difference between him and Levio, is that Levio's stupidity is such that it is comical. SmugDarkLoser is just plain irritating.
"SmugDarkLoser said:"Ichi said:Security data, I'll bet dashboard update data & space for future uses as defined by Microsoft.""360 games have a max size of 6.8GB installed. So there are a fair amount of games that probably were scaled back in SOME WAY to fit on a DVD.
There was a Fable 2 development video where they showed Peter Molyneux's notepad and he wrote something about fitting onto a single DVD. Fable 2 installed is 6.8GB BTW."
DVD 9s can hold roughly 9000 mbs, so umm... where's the missing space exactly?
"
Dashboard update data has nothing at all to do with this. While you can write more on a disk that has been written on, the 360 does not burn data.
And I'm sorry, but I doubt security data takes roughly 3.5 GBs. lolBiggerBomb said:
"SmugDarkLoser said:How am I shoving my fingers in my ears? Yea, Ps3 games take up more data. So what? How does this have any relevance? Because we know the same tools are used to put it on the disk and that they don't compensate for slow blu-ray read speeds? Seriously. Think about what you're saying. You're trying to start fire. It's moronic."BiggerBomb said:
Why are you trying to act like an asshole?
No, it isn't relevant. PS3 games are infamous for repeating content to make load times shorter. probably the same case.
Numbers show stuff and it all points towards space not being an issue."
I'm not trying to be an asshole nor am I being an asshole. I'm calling you out on you pulling stuff out of your ass and then shoving your fingers in your ears when someone responds."
"Ichi said:"SmugDarkLoser said:"Ichi said:Security data, I'll bet dashboard update data & space for future uses as defined by Microsoft.""360 games have a max size of 6.8GB installed. So there are a fair amount of games that probably were scaled back in SOME WAY to fit on a DVD.
There was a Fable 2 development video where they showed Peter Molyneux's notepad and he wrote something about fitting onto a single DVD. Fable 2 installed is 6.8GB BTW."
DVD 9s can hold roughly 9000 mbs, so umm... where's the missing space exactly?
"
Dashboard update data has nothing at all to do with this. While you can write more on a disk that has been written on, the 360 does not burn data.
And I'm sorry, but I doubt security data takes roughly 3.5 GBs. lolBiggerBomb said:"SmugDarkLoser said:How am I shoving my fingers in my ears? Yea, Ps3 games take up more data. So what? How does this have any relevance? Because we know the same tools are used to put it on the disk and that they don't compensate for slow blu-ray read speeds? Seriously. Think about what you're saying. You're trying to start fire. It's moronic.""BiggerBomb said:
Why are you trying to act like an asshole?
No, it isn't relevant. PS3 games are infamous for repeating content to make load times shorter. probably the same case.
Numbers show stuff and it all points towards space not being an issue."
I'm not trying to be an asshole nor am I being an asshole. I'm calling you out on you pulling stuff out of your ass and then shoving your fingers in your ears when someone responds."
Now that is funny.
"SmugDarkLoser said:"Ichi said:
Dashboard update data has nothing at all to do with this. While you can write more on a disk that has been written on, the 360 does not burn data.
And I'm sorry, but I doubt security data takes roughly 3.5 GBs. lolBiggerBomb said:"SmugDarkLoser said:How am I shoving my fingers in my ears? Yea, Ps3 games take up more data. So what? How does this have any relevance? Because we know the same tools are used to put it on the disk and that they don't compensate for slow blu-ray read speeds? Seriously. Think about what you're saying. You're trying to start fire. It's moronic.""BiggerBomb said:
Why are you trying to act like an asshole?
No, it isn't relevant. PS3 games are infamous for repeating content to make load times shorter. probably the same case.
Numbers show stuff and it all points towards space not being an issue."
I'm not trying to be an asshole nor am I being an asshole. I'm calling you out on you pulling stuff out of your ass and then shoving your fingers in your ears when someone responds."
Now that is funny."
How? have reason.
Think about what you're saying. I feel like I'm talking to someone who can't even think properly and is trying to put down the logic of yes to a question of "If I man fell off a ladder with gravity at 1G, would he fall?"
answer this question: How does that have any relevance to the size of 360 games if the whole disk isn't being filled up? Answer that and then you win.
"Discorsi said:Oh really? Where in his original post did he say anything about blu ray. All he did was state a very vague fact with a topic title of "games aren't even coming close to filling disks up" which can be interpreted in many different ways to as what he was trying to say."So what? Good games are coming out anyways ._______________."I don't think he's saying this as a negative point. It is most likely related to a argument that some people use about how the blue-ray is so much better because it has more space and soon games won't fit in a dvd. He's showing that that's bull."
Anyways even if he was trying to talk about that I don't see how bigger room is bad/unnecessary. In some cases it is unnecessary but It also allows for more room for the developer to work with which in no way is a bad thing. It allows for games like LittleBigPlanet and MGS4 to come out. We are not able to fully see the benefits of bigger space because the 360 does not have blu ray sized disks.
"zitosilva said: Oh really? Where in his original post did he say anything about blu ray. All he did was state a very vague fact with a topic title of "games aren't even coming close to filling disks up" which can be interpreted in many different ways to as what he was trying to say.I'm in no way saying blu-ray is bad, obviously it's better. Who would actually argue against that?
Anyways even if he was trying to talk about that I don't see how bigger room is bad/unnecessary. In some cases it is unnecessary but It also allows for more room for the developer to work with which in no way is a bad thing. It allows for games like LittleBigPlanet and MGS4 to come out. We are not able to fully see the benefits of bigger space because the 360 does not have blu ray sized disks."
What I'm saying is that it is unneccessary at the moment.
But going to LBP and MGS4- do either of those games really have more content than 360 games? Not really.
We can't count potential like you're trying to say. In reality we could say data extra (undefined) + (content in game) = infinity. Truth is that most developer probably just make their vision of a game and then fit it later. All I'm saying is that if they're not filling up the disk, therefore the DVD is sufficient for now. It's a rather safe comment on it.
"BiggerBomb said:"SmugDarkLoser said:"Ichi said:
Dashboard update data has nothing at all to do with this. While you can write more on a disk that has been written on, the 360 does not burn data.
And I'm sorry, but I doubt security data takes roughly 3.5 GBs. lolBiggerBomb said:"SmugDarkLoser said:How am I shoving my fingers in my ears? Yea, Ps3 games take up more data. So what? How does this have any relevance? Because we know the same tools are used to put it on the disk and that they don't compensate for slow blu-ray read speeds? Seriously. Think about what you're saying. You're trying to start fire. It's moronic.""BiggerBomb said:
Why are you trying to act like an asshole?
No, it isn't relevant. PS3 games are infamous for repeating content to make load times shorter. probably the same case.
Numbers show stuff and it all points towards space not being an issue."
I'm not trying to be an asshole nor am I being an asshole. I'm calling you out on you pulling stuff out of your ass and then shoving your fingers in your ears when someone responds."
Now that is funny."
How? have reason.
Think about what you're saying. I feel like I'm talking to someone who can't even think properly and is trying to put down the logic of yes to a question of "If I man fell off a ladder with gravity at 1G, would he fall?"
answer this question: How does that have any relevance to the size of 360 games if the whole disk isn't being filled up? Answer that and then you win. "
What is funny, is that I am responding in a purely rational manner and explaining to you why you are so disliked here. You are then turning around and saying that somehow I am the one who is not thinking properly, when you say people are wrong for not liking Halo as much as you do.
The irony in that is beautiful.
"SmugDarkLoser said:"BiggerBomb said:
How? have reason.
Think about what you're saying. I feel like I'm talking to someone who can't even think properly and is trying to put down the logic of yes to a question of "If I man fell off a ladder with gravity at 1G, would he fall?"
answer this question: How does that have any relevance to the size of 360 games if the whole disk isn't being filled up? Answer that and then you win. "
What is funny, is that I am responding in a purely rational manner and explaining to you why you are so disliked here. You are then turning around and saying that somehow I am the one who is not thinking properly, when you say people are wrong for not liking Halo as much as you do.
The irony in that is beautiful."
Yes, the irony is beautiful. What the heck are you talking about?
And for the record, that thread was something about what you're favorite game is this generaiton , I said Halo 3. Big deal?
I can't stand people who A) provoke arguemenent and B) don't have any reason nor logic. You fall under both
Honestly, you are... unreasonable.
Seriously.
Video takes up a large amount of space. Therefore, games with lots of video = larger space = multiple disks. However, this isn't exactly relevant, at all seeing as how games with little movies are taking up low amounts of space, the actual game data.
Is this so hard to understand.
Ps3 games in general are much larger by comparion. So what? Explain how this has any meaning.
Dashboard update data has nothing at all to do with this. While you can write more on a disk that has been written on, the 360 does not burn data.Ummm, no, you're wrong. Dashboard update data has part to do with this, and FYI 8.6GB - 6.8GB is LESS THAN 2GB, not 3.5GB. Learn some math while you're at it.
And I'm sorry, but I doubt security data takes roughly 3.5 GBs. lolBiggerBomb said:
"Bigger Bomb, what part of my logic is flawed? All you're doing is saying "lulwut?". "
Every single part of your logic. Although I see no reason to point it out for the umpteenth time, when you will simply turn around and say a variant of "no u."
I tried responding in a factual way. But this thread has decreased into madness, mainly because of SmugDarkLoser.
And to your question a few posts back "Do Little Big Planet or MGS4 have more content than 360 games: not really"
Actually I don't have a game that comes close to MGS4, quality, or content wise on my 360.
SmugDarkLoser, at some point in your life you will have to accept peoples arguments, not just block them out. It's called growing up.
"SmugDarkLoser said:Dashboard update data has nothing at all to do with this. While you can write more on a disk that has been written on, the 360 does not burn data.Ummm, no, you're wrong. Dashboard update data has part to do with this, and FYI 8.6GB - 6.8GB is LESS THAN 2GB, not 3.5GB. Learn some math while you're at it."
And I'm sorry, but I doubt security data takes roughly 3.5 GBs. lolBiggerBomb said:
(I'm talking about the typical game, not fable specifically).
And please explain what you mean about dashboard update data. This is something that is stored on the 360 itself. Updates, patches, etc. as well.
Security files I cannot see being rather large.
"Kush said:Well, no. You're not talking about "straight up game content" You made a topic which has us discuss whether or not games fill up the disc, and as soon as someone brings up the point of cut-scenes and audio, you start bitching, saying that was not what you where talking about. Make it more clear in your first post, next time, before you start moaning about Kush's VALID point."You're wrong...it's that simple. Games that are heavy on cut-scenes and have a lot of audio work will fill fast, especially if they decide to include every audio track (all languages). That is why MGS4 took up so much space (though I also believe they weren't doing a good job with compression)...the same will happen with FFXIII and other cut-scene heavy games."
And this has relevance to this thread?
Yea, FF13, FF Versus 13, Cry On, etc. (yea, I said Versus, oh snap!) will come on multiple disks for the 360. But that's only because they have lots of video. That's really a different case altogether. The multiple disk games on that list support my point. Ones without movies are relatively small.
You know, there's already a couple multiple disk games out- Lost odyssey, Blue Dragon, Infinite Undiscovery, and the Last Remnant
That has no impact at all. I'm talking about straight up game content which is what matters seeing as how an open world or whatever could be gimped by this. Ones with lots of video can just seperate video into different disks.
Something tells me you were just trying to spin what I'm saying to say i'm wrong. What I'm getting at is it's not like the Sega CD where games in general were barely fitting on and even games without many cutscenes were shipping on multiple disks."
"I tried responding in a factual way. But this thread has decreased into madness, mainly because of SmugDarkLoser.
And to your question a few posts back "Do Little Big Planet or MGS4 have more content than 360 games: not really"
Actually I don't have a game that comes close to MGS4, quality, or content wise on my 360.
SmugDarkLoser, at some point in your life you will have to accept peoples arguments, not just block them out. It's called growing up."
Well, to be honest, I'm sort of blunt in arguements. I'm not willing to explain that a gigabit is 1024 mbs yet we'll call it 1000 or whatever.
I accept things but some are just beyond reaosn.
But take a look at MGS4- no, it does not have more content than any other game. It's roughly a 15 hour game really. It's damn quality, but it's not exactly a grand thing.
Fallout 3 and Oblivion are the biggest games in this respect.
To be honest and really straight to the point: I hate reasoning with stupid people. That sounds rather egoistic, but I think I deserve it, I'm not exactly a stupid person seeing as how I'm 2nd year at georgia tech going for computer engineering.
But okay, I'm willing to explain a bit: What part am I not clear on? (directed at biggerbomb)
"zitosilva said:true."Discorsi said:Oh really? Where in his original post did he say anything about blu ray. All he did was state a very vague fact with a topic title of "games aren't even coming close to filling disks up" which can be interpreted in many different ways to as what he was trying to say."So what? Good games are coming out anyways ._______________."I don't think he's saying this as a negative point. It is most likely related to a argument that some people use about how the blue-ray is so much better because it has more space and soon games won't fit in a dvd. He's showing that that's bull."
Anyways even if he was trying to talk about that I don't see how bigger room is bad/unnecessary. In some cases it is unnecessary but It also allows for more room for the developer to work with which in no way is a bad thing. It allows for games like LittleBigPlanet and MGS4 to come out. We are not able to fully see the benefits of bigger space because the 360 does not have blu ray sized disks."
"SmugDarkLoser said:"Kush said:Well, no. You're not talking about "straight up game content" You made a topic which has us discuss whether or not games fill up the disc, and as soon as someone brings up the point of cut-scenes and audio, you start bitching, saying that was not what you where talking about. Make it more clear in your first post, next time, before you start moaning about Kush's VALID point.""You're wrong...it's that simple. Games that are heavy on cut-scenes and have a lot of audio work will fill fast, especially if they decide to include every audio track (all languages). That is why MGS4 took up so much space (though I also believe they weren't doing a good job with compression)...the same will happen with FFXIII and other cut-scene heavy games."
And this has relevance to this thread?
Yea, FF13, FF Versus 13, Cry On, etc. (yea, I said Versus, oh snap!) will come on multiple disks for the 360. But that's only because they have lots of video. That's really a different case altogether. The multiple disk games on that list support my point. Ones without movies are relatively small.
You know, there's already a couple multiple disk games out- Lost odyssey, Blue Dragon, Infinite Undiscovery, and the Last Remnant
That has no impact at all. I'm talking about straight up game content which is what matters seeing as how an open world or whatever could be gimped by this. Ones with lots of video can just seperate video into different disks.
Something tells me you were just trying to spin what I'm saying to say i'm wrong. What I'm getting at is it's not like the Sega CD where games in general were barely fitting on and even games without many cutscenes were shipping on multiple disks."
Well that's the thing. I'm not aruguing that, I'm saying that it shouldn't be a problem. The thing is, most developers can opt for inengine cutscenes which are rather small (roughly 1MB per minute) and audio can easily be compressed into small amoutns.
The arguement that could be made is what if they want to have lots of pre-rendered video? Then yes, multiple disks. Look at Lost Odyssey as a prime example. But again, not a big deal. You don't show the same video twice.
What an egotistical, aggressive, arrogant man.
In my opinion no one has a right to be egotistical.
By the way, MGS4's cutscenes were in engine.
"BiggerBomb said:"SmugDarkLoser said:"Ichi said:
Dashboard update data has nothing at all to do with this. While you can write more on a disk that has been written on, the 360 does not burn data.
And I'm sorry, but I doubt security data takes roughly 3.5 GBs. lolBiggerBomb said:"SmugDarkLoser said:How am I shoving my fingers in my ears? Yea, Ps3 games take up more data. So what? How does this have any relevance? Because we know the same tools are used to put it on the disk and that they don't compensate for slow blu-ray read speeds? Seriously. Think about what you're saying. You're trying to start fire. It's moronic.""BiggerBomb said:
Why are you trying to act like an asshole?
No, it isn't relevant. PS3 games are infamous for repeating content to make load times shorter. probably the same case.
Numbers show stuff and it all points towards space not being an issue."
I'm not trying to be an asshole nor am I being an asshole. I'm calling you out on you pulling stuff out of your ass and then shoving your fingers in your ears when someone responds."
Now that is funny."
How? have reason.
Think about what you're saying. I feel like I'm talking to someone who can't even think properly and is trying to put down the logic of yes to a question of "If I man fell off a ladder with gravity at 1G, would he fall?"
answer this question: How does that have any relevance to the size of 360 games if the whole disk isn't being filled up? Answer that and then you win. "
It has relevance because this is the GENERAL-DISCUSSION thread, not the 360 thread. If you had posted this thread in the 360 forum then no one would be talking about Blu-Ray
SmugDarkLoser said:
But going to LBP and MGS4- do either of those games really have more content than 360 games? Not really.Holy shit. LBP doesn't have a lot of content compared to 360 games? I personally thought that game had a SHIT load of content. It was bursting at the seams with content.
You know what, I'll call you out, once and for all. You are the biggest 360 fan boy I have seen on this forum.
^ It's a habit.
When you see so many people who just can't catch up no matter how many hands you use to pull them up, you typically just let them lie down.
I have a fuckload amount of knowledge in the backends of computers and I'm arguing with people who are just internet goers who think they know shit because they read forums. I guess I'm an idiot on that part.
And to the guy above me ^^ Little Big Planet is a rather small game. Go into, well an ID game seeing as how they give you all their code. In LBP you see every texture, object, etc. seeing as how it's a 2d platformer. In 3d games there is so many assets by comparison which you just don't see. This is why 3d games take up so much more space.
I'm not arguing the quality part here but actually technical specs. LBP is a fucking good game. I'm talking about actual assets here however.
---> And for the record, I never said they don't have much content in comparison, I said it's not larger.
Seriously, calm the hell down. You guys are taking this the negative route. This isn't an arguement. This is fact. 360 games are not filling up disks. End Thread/
this thread should be locked
"What about multiple discs for some 360 games?Uhmm who told you that??
Drebin_893 said:"Metal Gear old 4: Guns Of The Patriots used up the whole Blu Ray"I heard it only used one single-layer of the disc, not dual-layered because manufacturing prices are higher for dual-layered Blu-Ray discs."
MGS 4 does indeed come in a DL BD, but it does not use up the entire 50G, it uses around 35 gigs of info
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