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#1 Edited by Samcb (77 posts) -

I'll be embedding new episodes to this original post in reverse chronological order, so you don't have to search through the thread to find them all.

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I wasn't 100% sure which board to post this on, but I wanted to share a video I made from the most recent Bombcast and I figured General would be the most appropriate.

I liked this segment on the most recent Bombcast so I decided to mess around in Premiere and see if I couldn't make something out of it. I'd love to hear what you duders think of it and if you have any suggestions for improvements I could make to future Giant Bomb Animated (Kinda) videos.

If this is the wrong board or anything like that, please let me know.

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#2 Posted by csl316 (13925 posts) -

These are always pretty neat.

My feedback would be more background stuff when you don't have video stuff, as so much is just characters on a white background. More work, but then it's just an excuse to be shorter.

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#3 Posted by SkullPanda1 (1502 posts) -

As a total aside I wonder what the future of these videos will be with Live Broadcast Giantbomb Cast Live Show Live?

Back on topic, my biggest suggestion would be to make it a little more your own. Like how LackingSaint made some really /great/weird/ videos that use the audio but just add some of his own spirit in. So maybe that's making new original music, or more than just text fills next to the P4 designs.

That said I do love these things. Keep on making fun stuff

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#4 Posted by PurpleOddity (67 posts) -

This is cool. My suggestion would be to polish the typography a little. Try and keep the text vertically aligned; obsess a little more over kerning and line spacing. Otherwise I think the 'cinematographic' (if you can call it that here) decisions you've made are pretty damn good!

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#5 Posted by Zao (146 posts) -

The ending is sooo good haha! Jeff nailed the whole segment!

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#6 Posted by Fr0Br0 (3252 posts) -

That catch of Jeff saying "As someone whose liked Megaman games in the fast" was SO GOOD.

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#7 Posted by dudeglove (12579 posts) -

Cartoon Dan is the best thing about this

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#8 Posted by Viqor (201 posts) -

Slap Nuts

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#9 Posted by Rigas (430 posts) -

Cartoon Dan is the best thing about this

I don't know did you see "12 year old Dan"?

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#10 Posted by dudeglove (12579 posts) -

BTW just wanna say as someone who has sort of done one of these videos before, I found that the hardest thing to do (and this is maybe stating the obvious, but still), is getting the timing right on the elaborate slideshow (the most time consuming thing was finding images, but that wasn't hard - that was getting the jokes to work), in the sense that you give the person watching just enough time (i.e. not visible for too long or appear too early) to register the visual element you are using in time with the dialog before moving on. If it's visible for too long, or not long enough, the audio/visual juxtaposition might not work as well as you intend. An example of this working from yours is the "Merry Christmas (or something)" sign that appears on Dan, but an example of it not working as well is Jeff accidentally saying "fast" instead of "past", whereby Sonic's head is overlaid on his for about half a second (I think in part because my eyes were looking elsewhere on the screen?).

Other than that the video is great. The use of the Dead Space 2 footage is great, all the text you use is clearly visible, the animations on the magazine covers is neat, the "Back on topic" swoosh noise is fab, and basically I'd love to see you do another one.

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#11 Edited by Samcb (77 posts) -

Thanks for the feedback, everybody. It's always appreciated to get specific suggestions on how to make these things better.

I've started working on another one, hopefully it'll be done by the end of the week. I'll edit the original post to contain that video embed once it's done.

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#12 Posted by auzurafi (48 posts) -

If it's visible for too long, or not long enough, the audio/visual juxtaposition might not work as well as you intend. An example of this working from yours is the "Merry Christmas (or something)" sign that appears on Dan, but an example of it not working as well is Jeff accidentally saying "fast" instead of "past", whereby Sonic's head is overlaid on his for about half a second (I think in part because my eyes were looking elsewhere on the screen?)

I want to disagree here and say it worked exactly as they intended it too, and is one of the better gags in the video. Jeff stumbled on his words, coincidentally saying "fast" which was called attention to by the Sonic head. Cutting away from it so quickly (by a fortunately timed comment from Dan) keeps allows it to be a blink and you miss it sort of joke, which enhances it in my opinion. It would have also worked if they held on the image of Jeff with the Sonic head popping up then gone again, but not as well. It's hard to precisely explain why it works, but it's a combination of the visual enhancing the audio, making a joke out of something that originally wasn't one.

On the other hand I totally agree that the timing stuff is the worst part about these things. I don't know what you guys use (I use Vegas Pro) but hand placing every image clip for the dialogue and trimming it to the timing is the most tedious thing and is usually what causes me to step away from it, but the draw of the wacky ideas brings me back.

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#13 Posted by katpottz (342 posts) -

Love the multimedia stuff in here, good use of animation principals within the "cardboard cutout" animation style.

Weighing in on the whole "sonic head" moment, I think that it works fine. Normally I would be against adding in visual elements less then half a second before a cut as it usually makes the cut a bit jarring to the audience. That said I think it works in this instance because people will not notice the sonic head when first watching so it does not cause the cut/cause it to be jarring.

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#14 Edited by Samcb (77 posts) -

New episode is done! This segment on Beastcast 51 was one of my favorites. I did have some ideas for other Bombcast clips, but the news of Austin leaving meant I had to at least get one out while he's still a full time employee here. I'm sorry the tribute at the end of this video is... well, what it is.

As always, feedback is super appreciated!

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#15 Posted by auzurafi (48 posts) -

Awesome job again! Glad you weren't doing the bit I was planning on doing next

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#16 Posted by TheHT (14312 posts) -

Wow! That was really great!

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#17 Posted by StarvingGamer (11363 posts) -

Thanks for making me sad! Good work!

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#18 Posted by NTM (9806 posts) -

That's decent. I think I've said it before, but this reminds me that I would love it if someone did a Ricky Gervais Show style cartoon for the podcasts.

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#19 Posted by Samcb (77 posts) -

Sorry this one took so long, I got distracted by internship stuff so I didn't actually start working on it until this week. Hope you guys like the end result:

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#20 Posted by JeanLuc (3882 posts) -

@samcb: Ah duder, that's so good! I would love to see you do the Final Fantasy 7 on PS4 Port discussion. Its one of my favorites.

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#21 Posted by Grimluck343 (1371 posts) -

@samcb Thanks, now I'm dying.

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#22 Posted by BADBARRISTER (17 posts) -

these are amazing I wish I had any talent for this ..!!

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#23 Posted by VincentVendetta (424 posts) -

I'm crying with laughter!

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#24 Posted by Undeadpool (5904 posts) -

Dunk that ball/Dunk it dunk it GOOD!

Every. Damn. Time.

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#25 Posted by Levio (1953 posts) -

These are real great, keep it up!

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#26 Posted by afabs515 (1737 posts) -

@jeanluc said:

@samcb: Ah duder, that's so good! I would love to see you do the Final Fantasy 7 on PS4 Port discussion. Its one of my favorites.

Oh my god, yes, please!

I'm with everyone else here, duder. These are really well-made and hilarious. Keep up the great work!

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#27 Edited by ryleknuckles (182 posts) -

That Curry shit is pure gold! Please, never stop making these.

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#28 Edited by Samcb (77 posts) -

New episode is out! Based on popular request:

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#29 Posted by Silver-Streak (1841 posts) -

Hooo. That FF7 port announcement, still the biggest troll ever completed on the gaming public.

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#30 Posted by ScientificPizza (2437 posts) -

Wow these are all fantastic

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#31 Posted by dudeglove (12579 posts) -

I just want to add that I really dig your avatar/logo triangle square thing.

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#33 Posted by kon1312 (96 posts) -

Amazing job duder!

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#34 Posted by Max_Cherry (1276 posts) -

How did they forget about Tim Curry?

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#35 Posted by Undeadpool (5904 posts) -

My, uhm...my copy of RE4 on PS4 just came in the mail...sorry, @jeff

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#36 Posted by The_Nubster (3157 posts) -

Awesome! I watched them all in the order you made them, and each one is better than the last. Your timing is awesome and you seem to pick up on all the right cues when it comes to the jokes, and the combination of non-moving portraits and pictures married to more dynamic sound and images is great. Can't wait to see the next one!

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#37 Posted by Neverwinter07 (8 posts) -

Love the Austin Walker/Stellaris bit! I think I watched that segment 10 times in the past week.

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#38 Posted by twi (195 posts) -

These are great!

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#39 Posted by Samcb (77 posts) -

Sorry for the lack of new Giant Bomb animated stuff. School started up so I've been busy with classes, and I recently got asked to do this cool thing:

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I'll get back to work on making these soon!

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#40 Posted by Samcb (77 posts) -

6 months and a ton of schoolwork later, here's another one!

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#41 Posted by dudeglove (12579 posts) -

crying.

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#42 Posted by stordoff (638 posts) -

@samcb: You made exactly the right choice of background music for the strip club scene; nice work!

Maryu Q!

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#43 Edited by fetchfox (1678 posts) -

@samcb: good shit man, the best of clips. Everyone knows it.

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#44 Posted by Glots (2869 posts) -

Amazing!

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#45 Posted by MasterRain (356 posts) -

I think your videos are rad. That is all.

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#46 Posted by chuck_schwarz (95 posts) -

These are so funny. Really great work.

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#47 Posted by BradBrains (1974 posts) -

Keep it up. really enjoy this and its style

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#48 Posted by ArbitraryWater (14686 posts) -

Oh man this is great.

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#49 Posted by Brian3dw (33 posts) -

Thanks for the hard work. These are really great!