Star Ocean 3: Turns out that the the whole series took place in a computer simulation.
What is the stupidest plot twist you have seen in a game?
Outlast: The ghost wasn't a ghost at all. It was the consciousness of a mental patient inhabiting a cloud of Nazi nanomachines.
I fucking wish I was kidding about that.
So basically Metal Gear?
I'll have to think on it, but right now Liquid Ocelot and that whole mess is a front runner IMO.
I wanted to come up with something more creative...but what the hell, I'll post an obvious one.
Final Fantasy X: Everyone and everything from "old" Zanarkand, including Tidus and Auron, are just manifestations of a dreaming race of spirits or some such nonsense.
Any game where the twist is "it was all a dream" sucks complete ass.
Also, there are too many damn games that are far too proud of their completely obvious twists that you see coming a mile away. These aren't often stupider than other games' twists, but they have a special rage-filled place in my heart.
Indigo Prophecy: I cant even remember, I just remember it being stupid and ruining the entire game. Look it up. Also this shouldn't even be spoiler text..
In Advent Rising, humanity makes first contact with aliens, and you learn that humanity is like, the ancient chosen race according to these aliens and humanity was thought long extinct. One alien race is alright, one race is a bunch of dicks and is basically The Covenant. Dick aliens blow up the human planet (not explicitly Earth?), killing your brother/fiancée who gets left behind (it's a player choice, doesn't matter, whichever one you save dies randomly later in the story anyways). Your guy escapes with the good aliens, you develop The Force.
FAST FORWARD TO END OF GAME. After much hardship, you make it to a hearing of the Galactic Senate or some shit. You're there to be like "Yo dawg, this one race blew up most of the humans in existence, pretty recently, which is uncool, maybe sanction them."
A) everybody is completely unphased by your presence, despite the fact that a living human should be like Space Jesus and the dick aliens were expressly trying to exterminate the humans because it would challenge their power or something if humans were to start involving themselves in space politics, so the game can't even keep it's story straight of how important humans are
B) senator repping the dick aliens throws shade on all of your claims, even though his race is obviously evil, yet the senate oddly seems to be taking his side
C) NONE OF THAT SHIT MATTERS because suddenly some crazy alien angel of wrath with laser beams and shit appears, and OH SHIT, the angel thing is whoever you left behind at the beginning of the game (brother/fiancée, it's basically their head on this weird battle angel thing). At no other point do you have reason to believe that fake Covenant has been abducting humans and making them into super angels. Cue final boss fight.
D) after boss fight, a portal opens, teleporting you to a snow planet you've never seen before, in the middle of a blizzard. You collapse, then an alien of a race you've never seen before, wearing a tattered cloak, walks up and says something like "I have much to tell you", and then it carries you off into the blizzard. END OF GAME, CREDITS.
I've never played it, but that Star Ocean 3 twist is what comes up whenever one of these threads comes up.
But lemme tell you all about The Bureau. I don't remember all of it, but I do seem to remember the government covering up an entire apocalyptic alien invasion and me finding that incredulous.
Star Fox Adventures: When you're finally about to fight General Scales and Andross appears out of nowhere, murders Scales before you have a chance, and suddenly reveals he's behind everything.
Fahrenheit a.k.a. Indigo Prophecy - every new plot element introduced in the last third of the game was some kind of completely unnecessary deus ex machina twist involving ever new supernatural phenomena. Even one of them would be enough to ruin the story and leave a bad taste. Half a dozen of them changed a suspensful thriller into mental vomit of an inept 12-year old.
@yummylee: Serious question, I've never played the MGS series, but found watching the story of MGS2&3 (on GB) play out groan inducing the entire time. Is MGS4 even worse then those?
@sgtsphynx: Honestly, I like that explanation better than settling with the idea that he was actually possessed by Liquid. Like naw, he was just doing it to fuck with us. That's definitely a very Ocelot thing to do any ways.
@yummylee: Serious question, I've never played the MGS series, but found watching the story of MGS2&3 (on GB) play out groan inducing the entire time. Is MGS4 even worse then those?
Yes. And this is coming from someone who legitimately enjoys MGS3's story. Though MGS4 takes it to such extremes that you may be able to get some ironic enjoyment from just how outrageously stupid it is.
@yummylee: Damn, alright I'm on board.
@tennmuerti: I mean, MGS2 is already so silly that you have to enjoy it on an ironic level, because the ending is objectively terrible and apropos of nothing. MGS4 is that feeling, times like five.
@sgtsphynx: Well blame MGS2 for that then. I believe that People who think that MGS4 is "outrageously stupid" (in comparison to the other games in the series) have a skewed perception of what the series actually is. Like come on.
@bisonhero: Shtaaaaap, you're getting me all excited now!
Fahrenheit a.k.a. Indigo Prophecy - every new plot element introduced in the last third of the game was some kind of completely unnecessary deus ex machina twist involving ever new supernatural phenomena. Even one of them would be enough to ruin the story and leave a bad taste. Half a dozen of them changed a suspensful thriller into mental vomit of an inept 12-year old.
@qrdl: It was the AI on the internet! Also the Mayans! Also the Illuminati or something!
It sucked because up until that last 2 hours it was a pretty dope game with some really tense moments, it just jumps the shark So hard. It's like they couldn't decide which twist was better so they put in all of their ideas and squeezed it into the game in the most haphazard way, Future Robits! Aztecs/Mayans! Your a ghooooooost! Christ . . .
Maybe it's because Mass Effect is one of the few franchises whose story beats I remember at all, but pretty much all the twists rubbed me the wrong way. Spoilers, obviously
Mass Effect 1: Twist - game is actually about an evil race of universe eating robots. sigh.
Mass Effect 2: Twist - giant baby made of human goo. sigh.
Mass Effect 3: Twist - humans & robots fuse as one. sigh.
Love the hell out of all these games, but, yeah. Not these moments so much.
Hmm, it's pretty tough to choose between Indigo Prophecy and MGS4. I think Indigo Prophecy is actually more of a bullshit twist that MGS, if only because MGS usually maintains a high level of bullshit, and MGS2 had set a precedent. Indigo Prophecy lures you in with it's decent opening, and sucker punches you with a big ol' ball of stupid.
So Indigo Prophecy.
@geraltitude: I'm with you on those last 2. Even remember making some heated posts on the subject of how dumb that end of 2 was. And well 3 is kind of legendary in it's own right heh.
But I felt like in 1 you were kind of working towards unraveling that answer in the first place, so it wasn't much of a twist, just a revelation that's been worked up to. That's how I felt about it at the time anyway.
@bisonhero: Plus aliens and the whole titular nonsensical prophecy prophesied by I don't even remember who - race of underground-dwelling windmill-people or something. It's the one story which would be improved by the final revelation that it all had been a dream... a dream of the first ape intelligent enough to consume human popculture, but not even remotely intelligent enough to judge its value.
MGS4 is the greatest thing to happen to video games since the invention of the controller. Those of you who haven't played it and are waiting for MGScanlon, lwr me tell ya, you're in for a treat.
Fahrenheit (Europe got the better title) wins out because that first hour is the strongest any game has any right to have. The mystery and intrigue you get from that opening bombardment should've been all that game needed to sustain itself. But you screwed up, Cage! You had to give the guy reasons! You had to try and explain away every little thing with some grand universal nonsense when it should just be about a murder in a bathroom!
@tennmuerti: Yeah you're right, it is more a revelation to be fair to the game. I think it felt like a twist to me because I really wanted that game to be a Sci Fi Cop Story about hunting down Saren (man he was a great character) but then you discover what's really going on and the scale increased 100 fold.
@geraltitude: Yeah ... Saren was pretty cool. I miss him.
The Uncharted series. In the first game it turns out El Dorado is a statue that turns people into zombies for some reason. Nazis tried to use the statue for their own ends, but were then turned into zombies. The final boss who is some mercenary guy who looks like evil Nathan Drake wants the statue, and then you beat him up. Granted, it's been several years since I played it, and I only had a tenuous grasp on the story to begin with, but it's pretty dumb.
Uncharted 2 isn't much better, what with the blue guys, and the life tree, and the girl who had way too many face-heel/heel-face turns.
Games were pretty fun though.
Very easily Indigo Prophecy and there are multiple awful twists in it!
@geraltitude: Yeah ... Saren was pretty cool. I miss him.
The ending for Deus Ex has a man wanting to merge with an AI that already merged with another AI to rule all nanotechnology and be a god. That's MGS levels of dumb.
There are a lot of MGS plot points that would apply, but they seem to have all been mentioned already. I will say, though, that dumb plot twists only offend me if I'm already invested. I bet there are plenty of dumb twists that just float harmlessly over my head.
Any game where "The killer/badguy is YOU"
So cliche and so "jr high cool". It's right up there with "how do I know the color yellow I SEE is the same color yellow YOU see?!?"
Oh you're SO deep...
@bananasfoster: In general would I agree, but there's always an exception to the rule, one that immediately comes to mind when it comes to games Planescape: Torment .
Mirrors Edge - The blonde bitch is the masked assassin all along! Woop dee fuckin doo. With a game in which the story-line barely even matters I just didn't get this... the friend betrayal bit is been overdone to shreds and with a barely non-existent storyline, I just wanted to slap EA. I do love this game though, just that plot twist frustrates me.
Mirrors Edge - The blonde bitch is the masked assassin all along! Woop dee fuckin doo. With a game in which the story-line barely even matters I just didn't get this... the friend betrayal bit is been overdone to shreds and with a barely non-existent storyline, I just wanted to slap EA. I do love this game though, just that plot twist frustrates me.
Totally. The worst part is when the particular cliche you mention takes place in a game that has, like 3 characters to begin with.
@bananasfoster: Couldn't agree with you more, I hope the new Mirror's Edge as a better storyline with more characters and non-cliché twists.
I immediately thought of Inversion™, but its plot twist(s) weren't that stupid, they just had really terrible reveals and I already disliked the game when I reached them.
Instead, as much as I liked the actual game, I'd have to say the twist near the end of Enslaved was the worst I've encountered in the last few years. The bad guy is someone you've not had anything to do with, and is rescuing/enslaving people so he can put them into a matrix of the good old days where they're happy, except for the ones that got murdered by the robots instead, and... something like that, it just meant fighting more robots and then a big laser scorpion thing which was alright I guess
@spaceinsomniac: Wow, that's just ridiculous. I almost want to play the game just to find out how bad it is without spoiling myself further.
Mirrors Edge - The blonde bitch is the masked assassin all along! Woop dee fuckin doo. With a game in which the story-line barely even matters I just didn't get this... the friend betrayal bit is been overdone to shreds and with a barely non-existent storyline, I just wanted to slap EA. I do love this game though, just that plot twist frustrates me.
Totally. The worst part is when the particular cliche you mention takes place in a game that has, like 3 characters to begin with.
Yessssss, absolutely, holy shit that was garbage, hmmmm the bad guy has a female body? And there is only one other female character in the game besides the sister? WELL GOLLY JEE, I WONDER WHO THE BAD GUY IS, what's that? It's literally the other female in the game? Wooooooooooow what a surprise, you sure got me Mirrors Edge.
Stupid crap.
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