Anime elitism

I read the thread title as "Animal Elitism". I thought it was about how giraffes look down on the rest of the animal kingdom. How FAIL am I?

that's true for some stuff, but a manga is a manga and a comic is a comic.  To me, there's a world of difference between the two.

" @zombie2011 said:

" @Toxin066 said:

" Anime is for jerks.   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwfyzG59qsc "

Amen. "

OMG allmighty Jeff Gerstmann said something is bad! let's all blindly follow what he believes. "

This thread is just plain depressing...
 
I'd just like to make a few points: 
 
1. It's true that Japanese people classify anything animated under anime for the most part. I know some people here (I live in Japan too, dontcha know) who understand the difference between the two but even they'll say "anime". Yeah, I don't like it. Anime should be called anime and cartoons should be called cartoons. 
 
2. As others said, if you're going to take issue with the lexicon of a subculture than you should be fair and take issue with others too. This has little to do with language, it's about the terminology that anime fans use. A carburetor should be a "device that blends air and fuel" now shouldn't it? 
 
3. Oftentimes the English equivalent to the Japanese terms are NOT more succinct or easier to use, making it stupid to change them. Shonen becomes "manga for adolescent boys", which we can all agree would be a pain of epic proportions to say over and over again. Some things, like kodomo, could simply be called "child comics" but I still think it makes more sense to keep saying kodomo since it fits in with the standard of using the original terms. 
 
4. When it comes to things like Shinigami vs Death gods, I think the words should be kept in their original forms simply because they are used so often and are like proper nouns. I dislike calling the shinigami death gods in the same way I don't like that when they show Sasuke (Ninja Warrior) in the U.S. they refer to Midoriyama as Green Mountain or something to that effect.

" You sound more like an ass for taking the vocabulary of a subculture way too seriously. "

I'm not going to deny that there are anime elitists.  Actually, one aspect of elitism, in my experience, was never mentioned in this thread so far and that is those fans who vehemently dislike any anime that has been dubbed into English.  I enjoy both English and English subbed anime.  Sometimes, I don't want to read the story.  I get lazy on occasion and there are some decent dubs out there.  I'm not saying that all dubs are worthy of viewing.  What 4Kids did to One Piece has been classified a crime against humanity, but on the same note, I've enjoyed a lot of good dubs, too.  In some cases, there was very little that I could perceive between the original vocal talent and the commercial English actors.  Of course, I'm not incredibly fussy.  
 
Secondly, as has been pointed out, every hobby has a specific lexicon that is used to describe elements within it.  Anime has an added asset of being a window into another culture.  And so, by reading and conversing with others about the hobby, you have an opportunity to learn something new.  If someone describes something as "shonen" or "shojo" and explains the meaning, then you've learned something new.  Learning is good.  
 
And, as also been stated, some English words just don't translate well.  In the One Piece series, "Nakama" is a very important word to the group.  The translation means colleague or comrade, but that isn't quite precise.  In the show/manga it means more like a bond beyond family and friendship due to the likeness of their chosen path in life.  It is said that you will never understand another until you walk a mile in their shoes.  That's what I understand the word to mean in the context of the show.  And, the English translation does not convey that same importance in a single word.   So, using the proper word is important in those cases.  
 
Most of all, there is no one rule that can be applied to all aspects of anime and manga.  Would someone use the same guidelines to judge Rocko's Modern Life, Metalocalypse or Disney/Pixar's UP?  They are all animated shows or movies but are each very different products.  Anime is very large, so you shouldn't apply the same rule set to each and every anime unilaterally.  If you want to refer to Sailor Moon as "senshi" or "scouts", it's whatever you feel comfortable with and is understood by your audience. 

People use elitism as a defense mechanism. If you're "elite", you can convince yourself that you're too good for certain people, not the other way around. Same reason a lot of antisocial gamers want to be called "hardcore" and separate themselves from the masses of people who now enjoy the same things they do. I feel sorry for elitists.

I think calling a manga a comic is too vague. That's like calling a Foreign Film just a film.

Lol this thread is pretty out of control. I really don't like people using Japanese words for no reason whatsoever other than to try seem Japanese, "kawaii" in particular pisses me off but then I hate weeaboo idiots so it might just be a more general thing. I also hate anime so whatevs.

The whole anime fanbase/culture is definitely something that turned me off it a few years back. 

It's worst for things like Pokemon, when even though characters have established names that run through the games, anime and manga, such as Misty, certain people still refuse to call her anything but "Kasumi".  It's just.. ugh.  I don't want to lump all anime fans together, but it's pretentious beyond compare.

an internet fight takes about 10x more time from you than a real fight.
 
why bother?
 
sometimes people just need to learn when to agree to disagree

If we are posting comics:

I hate all anime equally. :)

I think the meaningful conversation is just about done here.