@MisterChief: I thought I was seeing things when he sitting on the bed, and dismissed him as a look alike till the bar scene with Quinn.
Robocop? I'm going to say it, this season is slow as fuck. I know last season was probably paced just as slowly, but it didn't feel as interminable as this one does.
I'm not going to write as much about this episode as I have in the past. I loved all the Masuka action though. Dude's so funny. There's so many plot points to keep strait this season, it's kind of tiring keeping it all together. I'm still waiting for an episode that I don't enjoy; I'm not sure that will ever happen. :P
@BBQBram: I have to agree with you, I am not liking this season nearly as much as the ones before, still completely enjoyable though. Julia Styles just feels so forced, and I'm not sure what the writers are doing. I thought after Rita's death it would be the complete focal point, now it seems like they're too happy to try and bring everything to the status quo. Dexter for the first time in his life had real feelings and Lithgow took her away. You would think that would have serious repercussions to his character, but the way they just sent the kids away and have Dexter back to normal and working so quickly is making it feel like a comic book.
There are some really great characters on the show, whether it be from the random killers, Matsuka, and Angel, but the majority of them are unlikeable in my opinion, Michael C. Hall absolutely saves the show in some episodes. Half of the episodes are now spent looking at Quinn and Deb which are excruciating since Quinn is an idiot and Deb is just Deb...
I have to say though this week's sneak peak to the next episode was way more exciting than last week's hobo Julia Styles in a hoodie shot. I also hope the episodes don't get as predictable as they did last night.
Hey there, ho there, hi there. This thread hasn't been revived in a while. Some shit has gone down.
Spoiliz-orz!!
So that makeshift C.I. lady was shot. Damn, son. Someone should be fired for that *glares as LaGuerta*. I'm starting to like Quinn more and more. He's even starting to come around on letting Dexter off the hook, but now that dude he hired is becoming a problem. I'd bet Dexter kills him eventually. After seeing Lumen and Harrison at the end of the episode, I'm callin' it, Dexter and Lumen are totally gettin' married after all of this is over. But first Lumen's gettin' kidnapped and Dexter's gonna have to save her.
Dexter's neat and tidy life is totally spinning out of control this season, and I like it.
I was actually looking for this thread after I saw last night's episode, but couldn't find it and gave up.
OMG!!
I'm loving the whole serial rape/killer group of childhood friends being the main villain this season, and Lumen is growing on me. At first I thought she was just going to be an annoyance, but now I kind of like the idea of Dexter having a partner or apprentice. Quinn is still a douchenheimer and I hate his face. LaGuerta is so gonna get canned in this season, with all these screw ups happening recently.
If Dexter and Lumen get together, it would be one big happy serial killing family.
Edit: I didn't even realize that my post format closely mimics yours.
" ... Edit: I didn't even realize that my post format closely mimics yours. "
Creepy. :P
You're right, the whole concept of a group of childhood friends being the bad guys is pretty great. It's like the movie "Grown Ups" but a tad bit darker. Just a tad. God Grown Ups sucked.
The season has been really great so far. Last year's was incredible, so I'm hoping 5 can keep up momentum all the way through. I remember 3 having a similar (promising) premise, but it totally failed by the end.
I was surprised that Peter Weller's part is so small on the show. Perhaps they are keeping him around for longer than one season. What really surprised me was seeing Jonny Lee Miller as the guest serial killer!
He was a serial killer in the movie Mindhunters back in 2004 with Val Kilmer (Val's role was brief). Amazing. Between the 3 of them, Miller, Weller, & Stiles, it's an impressive A-list of guest characters.
Dexter. And now The Walking Dead. I'm in TV Heaven! :-D
The whole "daddy dexter" thing is getting old, fast!
Also I dont like that now dexter is just kind of a "normal dude" killing criminals, where as in season 1 he was this antisocial guy with deep emotional problems struggling to keep his "facade" up. The character has really evolved the wrong way for me to sympathize.
" If Dexter and Lumen get together, it would be one big happy serial killing family. "
That's the first thing that came to mind when I saw Dex bring Harrison over to meet her. Eventually I think she'll be exposed to his friends and family and they'll have to lie about how they know each other and I suspect they'll use 'being a couple' as cover, but it will eventually turn into something more. Just speculation really, but we'll see.
I'm really interested to see what happens to Quinn and that guy following Dexter around. I don't like either of em really and I honestly wouldn't mind they ended up like Doakes. In fact, I really hope they do..
@Lind_L_Taylor: I think they are really just taking his story thread slow - from the teaser of the next episode it seems like his role is going to become more pivotal. We haven't found out what his "unorthodox" measures are going to be. Having lumen around makes dexter very vulnerable to a private investigation, especially since he hasn't communicated an alibi to her to explain where she came from.
I liked that Vince Masuka picture moment with Lumen. Dexter: Do you recognize this man? Lumen: The bald guy? No, but he's a freak. Dexter: No, not him.
" I was surprised that Peter Weller's part is so small on the show. Perhaps they are keeping him around for longer than one season. What really surprised me was seeing Jonny Lee Miller as the guest serial killer! He was a serial killer in the movie Mindhunters back in 2004 with Val Kilmer (Val's role was brief). Amazing. Between the 3 of them, Miller, Weller, & Stiles, it's an impressive A-list of guest characters. Dexter. And now The Walking Dead. I'm in TV Heaven! :-D "
That movie has one of my all time favorite lines ever. The go one for forever about how everyone has one weakness and that becomes a major plot point of the film. So after the bad guy gets shot dead, LL Cool J gets to so this little gem. "Guess we found what is weakness was...Bullets." End of fucking movie. Simply amazing.
Now for my thoughts on this season. I keep getting flashbacks of season 3 here. The way the friendship between Dex and Lumen is developing just reminds me of Miguel. And how Dexter's good intentions constantly backfired and he created a monster that he ultimately had to put down. Now, this time is different because we know that the guys they are after are indeed sick fucks and deserve whats coming, but how will all of this change Lumen? I am holding out hope that they don't have Dex kill her in the end or that she stays around as a replacement to Rita. Dexter moving on so soon just wouldn't be right. He is going to be haunted by that for a very long time.
I would also like to say that I am starting to really like Quinn. A lot. They found a way to turn a sort of meh character into something really interesting and dynamic. I am looking forward to see how it develops and what they do with him.
" I really can't stand Julia Stiles in this. Just shut...the fuck...up. Other than her annoyance, the season is decent. "
I get where you are coming from, but I think she is playing her part perfectly. The girl went through some intense shit, I think that earns her the right to be a little high strung.
" @Lind_L_Taylor: I think they are really just taking his story thread slow - from the teaser of the next episode it seems like his role is going to become more pivotal. We haven't found out what his "unorthodox" measures are going to be. Having lumen around makes dexter very vulnerable to a private investigation, especially since he hasn't communicated an alibi to her to explain where she came from. "
Yeah. Maybe build up Weller to some big role. Sounds like he might have to be paid to remain silent. He's a crooked cop that will expect to be paid.
@IBurningStar said:
" @Lind_L_Taylor said:
" I was surprised that Peter Weller's part is so small on the show. Perhaps they are keeping him around for longer than one season. What really surprised me was seeing Jonny Lee Miller as the guest serial killer! He was a serial killer in the movie Mindhunters back in 2004 with Val Kilmer (Val's role was brief). Amazing. Between the 3 of them, Miller, Weller, & Stiles, it's an impressive A-list of guest characters. Dexter. And now The Walking Dead. I'm in TV Heaven! :-D "
That movie has one of my all time favorite lines ever. The go one for forever about how everyone has one weakness and that becomes a major plot point of the film. So after the bad guy gets shot dead, LL Cool J gets to so this little gem. "Guess we found what is weakness was...Bullets." End of fucking movie. Simply amazing. Now for my thoughts on this season. I keep getting flashbacks of season 3 here. The way the friendship between Dex and Lumen is developing just reminds me of Miguel. And how Dexter's good intentions constantly backfired and he created a monster that he ultimately had to put down. Now, this time is different because we know that the guys they are after are indeed sick fucks and deserve whats coming, but how will all of this change Lumen? I am holding out hope that they don't have Dex kill her in the end or that she stays around as a replacement to Rita. Dexter moving on so soon just wouldn't be right. He is going to be haunted by that for a very long time. I would also like to say that I am starting to really like Quinn. A lot. They found a way to turn a sort of meh character into something really interesting and dynamic. I am looking forward to see how it develops and what they do with him. "
Hahah. Yeah. I remember that. Fucking glad to hear Eli Roth was shit-canned! I couldn't stand that show.
I think for my next two Netflix rentals it's gonna be: Mindhunters (if I don't got it on DVD) & Raising Cain (the ol' John Lithgow creepy special)
Makes me wonder who the next guest serial killer will be next season. They ought to track down Maxwell Caulfield from The Boys Next Door. That would be classic to put him in Dexter.
Just confused as shit as to where the Julia Stiles plotline goes. So she helps him kill her torturers? Is she done then? Or does she hunt other bad guys with Dexter? Do they end up together? Who knows where they're going.
A prediction, Deb finds out what Dexter really is at the end of this season and season 6 is the last for this series.
After last season i thought this season would be amazing, but so far all the episodes have sucked. It also doesn't help that i find Lumen ugly, and i don't like looking at her.
" Just confused as shit as to where the Julia Stiles plotline goes. So she helps him kill her torturers? Is she done then? Or does she hunt other bad guys with Dexter? Do they end up together? Who knows where they're going. A prediction, Deb finds out what Dexter really is at the end of this season and season 6 is the last for this series. "
I don't believe the seasons will end at the sixth. Dexter has much uncovered ground, like:
Dexter finding a twin soul (i don't think Lumen has that in her)
" Just confused as shit as to where the Julia Stiles plotline goes. So she helps him kill her torturers? Is she done then? Or does she hunt other bad guys with Dexter? Do they end up together? Who knows where they're going. A prediction, Deb finds out what Dexter really is at the end of this season and season 6 is the last for this series. "
I don't believe the seasons will end at the sixth. Dexter has much uncovered ground, like:
Dexter finding a twin soul (i don't think Lumen has that in her)
Dexter's life of a single parent
Dexter approximation with his dead wife's sons
Dexter and his sister's relationship
Dexter being caught as a killer
His father Harry, as a bag full of secrets
It still has a lot of potential as a series.
"
I don't know man. This season just feels like a tired old horse compared to the fourth.
The only plotlines on that list that interest me at all would be Deb finding out who Harry really was in regards to training Dexter. Dexter getting caught by Deb would be half a season Deb hunting Dexter and not knowing who she was after, and the realization and her decision what to do being the last half of the season after she discovered who the serial killer really was. Also her revisiting the events of the season 2 plotlines and her realizing Doakes was set up.
Dexter as single parent, or playing dad again with Rita's kids I have zero interest in.
@ninjakiller: That would make for a very interesting scenario.
Yep, me neither at first. Still there are a lot of scenarios I hadn't find interesting at first, and with the seasons going on really surprised me. The fourth was one of them. ^^
The Dexter and Lumen stuff was amazing last night. La Guerta, it was cool to see her slime people for the sake of her career in the past, but now she can just die a horrible brutal death in my book. Deb, totally out of character to just lay down and take her suspension without blowing up. Maybe they're trying to show her maturing as a person, but it just felt wrong that she'd just try to lay in bed all day.
Quick update, liked the episode, seems like Dexter is going to have a problem in Jordan Chase. One glaring discrepancy that I couldn't ignore and made me think of it for the rest of the episode - While Dexter was punching the douchenheimer who beats that girl, he was saying that he was punching him in the liver. This was obviously false because Dexter was punching him on the left side of his abdomen, and not his right. It really bothered me for some reason, may be because I'm a med student, but more likely because Dexter is a dude that knows the human anatomy pretty well. FOR SHAME!
" Quick update, liked the episode, seems like Dexter is going to have a problem in Jordan Chase. One glaring discrepancy that I couldn't ignore and made me think of it for the rest of the episode - While Dexter was punching the douchenheimer who beats that girl, he was saying that he was punching him in the liver. This was obviously false because Dexter was punching him on the left side of his abdomen, and not his right. It really bothered me for some reason, may be because I'm a med student, but more likely because Dexter is a dude that knows the human anatomy pretty well. FOR SHAME! "
You're right. I thought the same thing. Maybe they had it written in the script that way and they had to switch the camera angles which forced him to have to punch the dude on his other side instead... or something. :P
Very eventful episode though, although I'm sure many people didn't like it due to the whole Astor situation. I liked it though; it was a nice change of pace. The scene where Harry tells Dexter that he misjudged him was pretty huge. Who knows what effects that could have on Dexter's state of mind later in the series. Also, the whole part where he told Astor that he loved her. I was like, whoa son. Dexter, you're not allowed to love!
Oh yeah, and in the scenes from next week, Dexter and Lumen are caught on tape prepping for the murder. Oh noes!
Man, I love this part of any Dexter season. It's where shit picks up and is on at all times. Also, this week made me a Quinn fan. They'v e definitely separated him from Doakes now. His freaking out on Robocop was great. I loved the scene of Dexter beating the shit out of that dude and explaining exactly what he was doing at each stage. It had the same creepily methodical feel as his kill scenes.
It was a pretty solid episode, besides the appearance of Astor. I didn't think she could be anymore annoying, but somehow she was. Also, the baby saying "mum" was pretty silly and overly blatant. Still, Michael C. Hall is entertaining^^
" It was a pretty solid episode, besides the appearance of Astor. I didn't think she could be anymore annoying, but somehow she was. Also, the baby saying "mum" was pretty silly and overly blatant. Still, Michael C. Hall is entertaining^^ "
He totally said "mama". He's not a British baby! :P
" I want Quinn to end up on Dex's table. Please God. "
After this Sunday's episode, it looks to me like it will be Liddy, not Quinn that ends up on the table. Quinn has turned out to be a good guy in my eyes. He didn't lie to Deb, he told Liddy to back off (and he was having reservations the whole time).
@JJWeatherman: Yeah, I had a quick inhale of breath when I saw the next episode teaser. I can't wait to see how they deal with Robocop on their asses. The Astor stuff was good, I like it when Dexter has a lot on his plate, it makes him more relatable. I like how he basically turned his father's speech on Astor when he was dropping her off, and my I was quite surprised when he said, "I love you" and looked serious about it.
"Tick Tock, that's the sound of your life running out.... take care Lumen."
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