Dexter Season 5. (Spoilers)

" @Raymayne said:

" I want Quinn to end up on Dex's table. Please God. "

After this Sunday's episode, it looks to me like it will be Liddy, not Quinn that ends up on the table. Quinn has turned out to be a good guy in my eyes. He didn't lie to Deb, he told Liddy to back off (and he was having reservations the whole time).    Liddy has to go. "

" @fishmicmuffin said:

" @Raymayne said:

" I want Quinn to end up on Dex's table. Please God. "

After this Sunday's episode, it looks to me like it will be Liddy, not Quinn that ends up on the table. Quinn has turned out to be a good guy in my eyes. He didn't lie to Deb, he told Liddy to back off (and he was having reservations the whole time).    Liddy has to go. "

You guys seriously think he'd step that out of line? I mean liddy doesn't pass Dexters criteria for being eligible for the table right?  Edit: Quinn either for that matter "

" ... "Tick Tock, that's the sound of your life running out.... take care Lumen." "

" @MattBosten: I guess you got a point there. I'd just seem a tad to convenient that he'd killed someone before, I'd be kinda disappointed if they wrote it of that easily "

ami the only one who liked rita and the dynamic it added to the storyline? 
 
oh and RIP Doakes, Quinn will never be as awesome

" @TwoOneFive:  I liked the dynamic that the character Rita added to the storyline, but I really didn't like Julie Benz's portrayal of the character. I think she's a pretty awful actress. "

I like how everyone just accepts that Liddy is Robocop. My mate and I refer to him as that without question. 
 
Also: "Goodbye, Lumen." 
 
Waaaaaaaaaa!?
 
The evolution of Dexter as a character and a show is crazy. Its a far different beast now to what it was back in the first season.  
 
2 really changed the show, 3 was atrocious, 4 was a vast improvement and turned out to be a great season, and now this season has been consistently awesome week to week.

"I long maintained that 2 was the best, as 3 was atrocious. 4 was a vast improvement and turned out to be a great season, and now this season has been consistently awesome week to week. "

Dexter is being shown to have emotions, and I like it. Whether or not he's aware of them. The character is evolving over the years which makes it much more interesting.   

Oh man. This fucking episode. The end was kind of expected, I guess. But still, this fucking episode. This is becoming much less of a season 2 rehash than I originally feared. Loved the face off moment between Dex and Chase.

Peter Weller needs his own Magnum P.I. style spin-off style show.

Wow, from a slow start and looking like a season 3 in terms of quality to surpassing season 4 and possibly season 2 in terms of quality I must bow before the writers.   Talk about a slow-burn turning into a flash fire.   
 
 
 
 
 
 
Edit: It looks like it's a matter of when not if Deb discovers Dexter's secret.  The final showdown in episode 12?  Season 6, Deb living Dexter's secret.  
 
 Will Lumen take the fall and got to jail to protect Dexter?  A more likely scenario is how Lumen dies.  Peter Weller?  Jordan Chase? Deb?  Who kills her?  She's just too much of a sticky wicket to be left alive in Dexter universe.   

"  She's just too much of a sticky wicket to be left alive in Dexter universe.    "

" 3 was atrocious "

I'm pretty sure by the end of the season Quinn is going to be revealed as the antithesis of Doakes. Whether through Robocop's surveillance or otherwise, he'll find out what Lumen and Dex have been doing and choose to protect them. 
 
This season is an absolute blast.

" @ninjakiller said:

"  She's just too much of a sticky wicket to be left alive in Dexter universe.    "

Not if they clean up the "mess". By that I mean Jordan.  And thank you for using the phrase "sticky wicket". So good. "

My theory is Robocop ends up in a confrontation with Quinn that ends in Quinn's death, possibly concerning Quinn protecting Dexter, and that gives Dexter the opening to put Robocop on the table.

The end of this episode was pretty obvious, but still good nonetheless. I can only imagine what could possibly happen in this show. There's so much that can and presumably will go down in these next two episodes, but I just want to know how in the world they'll take out Jordan.

Why all the love for season 2? Lila was annoying as fuck and her only redeeming character quality was getting naked.

" @MisterChief: Did the british lady make the Bay Harbor Butcher stuff less suspenseful and James Doakes less mother fucking awesome?  ...and I thought Lila was okay. "

• Lila killing Doakes

Great episode, is it only me, or is Lumen becoming more attractive? Finally Dexter can be with someone that understands him for who he is, too bad it won't last. Footprint aye Debra? Debra is going to find out that Lumen was #13 and will look the other way. Robocop and Quinn will have an epic robo fight and robocop will end up dead via a knife in the chest.  
 
But of course they will just bring robocop back from the fucking dead and put his body into an even more robotic robocop robot. 
 
You just wait and see. 
 
Edit: Lila's character was awesome and yes the nudity helped.

MY last post was a huge rant on how the series fails to develop the characters beyond pawns for a suspense driven plot. Season 4 seemed to force Dexter to confront himself the next season. Instead we got a hugely messy story arc that feels like Dexter-by-the-numbers. Now that I've come to terms with that, this season is fine. The pacing is working out and it's a pretty cool plot. It's just that whoever thinks there is any actual depth or character development at play is completely oblivious as to actual great writing on TV shows. Try Mad Men or Boardwalk Empire and then say this show holds up as anything beyond a "whodunit" variation.

Oh shit it is on.   Robocop done messed with the wrong bull, Lumen is once again the damsel, and Dexter has a birthday party to go to.  
 
 
 After watching the preview for the season finale it looks like the cat finally comes out of the bag regarding Dexter's secret and Deb.  Now waiting a week to find out exactly how it all wraps up.  Damn. 

CRAZY ASS INTENSITY  
 
CLIFFHANGER FUCKING SUCKED !! *PUCHES 3 DEAD BABIES*

So let's throw around some predictions here
 
The drop of blood on Quinn's shoe is super significant. Mixed with his involvement with Robocop and the flash of him in the interrogation room, he's going to be the prime suspect for Liddy's murder. Personally, I really hope he doesn't go down for it. He's really won me over on the back end of this season.
 
The scenes with Deb and Dex could be cleverly edited together, but I'm sort of hoping they aren't.
Also, I hated her at first, but I really hope Lumen doesn't die. It would be too much of a repeat of last season and a dues ex machina to return things to the status quo. She can leave, she can only guest star every so often, but don't kill her.
 
Also, I'd like to point out what could be a complete change in the makeup of Dexter's character. It hasn't been touched on specifically, but we haven't seen signs of Dexter having a pathological need to kill since the end of the fourth season. He seems more like he's doing it out of a moral obligation now than an unstoppable, unshakeable hunger and addiction ala the first three and a half or so seasons. He's also acting as much to protect Lumen now as he is himself, going so far as to completely disregard his own self preservation several times at this point when he could just leave Lumen as a loose end to tie itself up. There hasn't been any specific calling out of character development, but I'd argue we are and have been seeing a brand new Dexter.\
 
ALSO ALSO (I keep adding things on!) considering Deb's reaction to her vigilante theory (almost admiration for the vigilante and her partner), I'm thinking if she DOES discover dex, she'll cover for him, believing this to be an isolated set of incidents and considering it justified. Plus, you know, it's Dexter. It's not like he's gonna out and say "Oh, by the way, the bay harbor butcher? Totally not Doakes."
 
OH OH OH AAAAND Let's not forget, Quinn totally knows Dexter killed Liddy. There's no way he won't put two and two together. However, I don't think this is going to spark further conflict between the two. In fact, considering Dexter realized Quinn didn't want to stalk him, and Quinn knowing what Liddy was doing to Dexter, they'll likely have some sort of mutual understanding at long last. Provided Quinn doesn't get nailed for Liddy's murder.

I'm adding these just for the hell of it.  They're funny dammit!

Well fuck me sideways while I'm running! 
 
NOOOOOOOOOOOO ROBOCOP!!! 
 
Quinn is totally going to get robocop's death pinned on him, question is though, will Dexter help do it? 
 
Deb gets some strange theories, she will put Dexter and Thirteen together for the killings, something will happen, she'll see a tape or something. 
 
Dexter, go get yo gurl back homee! 
 
Lumen, good job putting up a fight, please don't die. I predict that she will be away visiting her familia next season. 
 
Jordan Chase (Eugene Greer), you're dead son! I hope he dies with the knife that Dexter bought Lumen. 
 
LaGuerta, you're still a bitch. 
 
I can't wait to see how this all ends, great season thus far, I've really enjoyed seeing Dexter transform.  

I've pressed enter a lot.

My prediction is that Deb will walk in on Lumen killing Jordan, not Dexter. Dexter will be there and throw out that he was the one helping her kill the men, and Lumen will go to prison or something. Honestly I didn't like this season much but they sure do know how to build suspense in that show.

It would suck for quinn to get jailed, actually starting to like him just a bit? 
 
Not quite sure where lumen and chase are going, but boy is this stressfull!

Well...this finale sucked.
 
It was good in the sense that everything was wrapped up pretty decently and they dealt with the removal of Lumen pretty much the way I thought it would go off. But this is just too much of a happy ending for a finale of Dexter, they should've thrown something in there that would've made the ending a bit more interesting like when Quinn walked up to Dex to thank him, maybe he could've said that he knows that he killed Liddy, but since he saved Quinn he won't say anything. Or Deb could've pulled the curtains and seen that the killers were Dex and Lumen...
 
Overall the season gets a 6/10 for me.
2>4>1>5>3

" Well...this finale sucked.  It was good in the sense that everything was wrapped up pretty decently and they dealt with the removal of Lumen pretty much the way I thought it would go off. But this is just too much of a happy ending for a finale of Dexter, they should've thrown something in there that would've made the ending a bit more interesting like when Quinn walked up to Dex to thank him, maybe he could've said that he knows that he killed Liddy, but since he saved Quinn he won't say anything. Or Deb could've pulled the curtains and seen that the killers were Dex and Lumen...  Overall the season gets a 6/10 for me. 2>4>1>5>3 "

You must be too.(happy)  Now that this is all over I mean. -Deb
 
 What the fuck did she mean by that?   Was it really just in the context of the investigation? 
 
Quinn's really just going to let it go?    Well, Liddy was basically stalking Dexter at my behest, and now he's dead, but I'm going to keep my mouth shut because I'm banging his sister? 
 
How did Dexter clearing Quinn even factor into Dexter's thought process?  
  
The ending was complete weaksauce imo.  

 @Linkin10362:   @punkxblaze:  @ninjakiller:
 
 actually you guys, i think this finale not having the usual dexter finale format is exactly what the writers went for..  
 
I'm glad the villian didnt die in the last 5 minutes, not only that but he had a sudden unplanned death (lumen's impulse) rather than the usual organized ritual, and i LOVED how i was 110% sure that Deb is about to see Dexter only to have her back off.. 
same with Quinn. during the bday party i thought he was long gone especially when Angel told Maria how he saw her "trying so hard" with Deb since shes supposed to be broken over Quinn being the murderer, only to see him waltz in and thank Dexter for faking the results 
 
pretty good finale, proving to us that the show will always surprise us and keep breaking the habit until it doesnt have a habit anymore!  happy ending? maybe, but its good for a change. im sure Season 6 will get back to the roots ! 
 
the only thing that surprised me was Lumen leaving.. i thought after her trauma she started believing in the cause of purifying the world from bad people so much that Season 6 will be all about team Dexter-Lumen.. too bad he's a lone wolf again. but then again thats good for going back to the roots. 
 

Last weeks episode was waaay better than the finale.  
 
I expected Dexter to help Quinn get out of the blame, because Quinn knows wazzup. 
 
Mother trucking Debra, go see who it is that is killin your suspects man! Stop being such a wuss. 
 
Lumen, I knew she was going to leave Dexter, but I didn't think it would be a lame reason like that, he should have used that broken plate as a shiv... 
 
Dexter, homee can't get no love, I feel your pain Dex, I feel your pain. 
 
Harrison, you are only 1, you don't deserve such a big birthday party, and why didn't you invite any other babies to chill with?  
 
I too wonder whether Deb was talking about the killings or the investigation, I guess we'll have to wait for the next season. (I think investigation, unless Quinn tells her whats up.)  Season 2 was and is still the best, one of the best seasons of all television in my opinion.

This season was horrible! All about daddy dexter and his family issues... jeez. What happened to the sociopath dexter from season 1, the current dexter is just an average guy who kills people for justice.....

I'm not surprised by how it ended. Dexter knew Deb cared for Quinn, so he wouldn't want to see her sister go through that pain of him being accused of murder. I don't think Julia Stiles is that good of an actress. This is just my opinion, but I actually thought the second season was the worst of the whole series, because I couldn't stand Lila. 

I want to wipe this disastrous season from my mind. I didn't give a single fuck about the league of extraordinary rapists. Also they missed a perfect opportunity of redemption by not having Debra see Dexter at the crime scene. So. Fucking. Dumb.

" I'm not surprised by how it ended. Dexter knew Deb cared for Quinn, so he wouldn't want to see her sister go through that pain of him being accused of murder. I don't think Julia Stiles is that good of an actress. This is just my opinion, but I actually thought the second season was the worst of the whole series, because I couldn't stand Lila.  "

" I want to wipe this disastrous season from my mind. I didn't give a single fuck about the league of extraordinary rapists. Also they missed a perfect opportunity of redemption by not having Debra see Dexter at the crime scene. So. Fucking. Dumb. "

"  I actually thought the second season was the worst of the whole series, because I couldn't stand Lila.  "

After how good the two previous episodes were I couldn't help but feel let down by just about everything in the finale. Still a good season and I didn't hate Lumen like the rest of the internet but still disappointed. Good season but they really could've made a grand episode and just failed. 

" So let's throw around some predictions here  The drop of blood on Quinn's shoe is super significant. Mixed with his involvement with Robocop and the flash of him in the interrogation room, he's going to be the prime suspect for Liddy's murder. Personally, I really hope he doesn't go down for it. He's really won me over on the back end of this season.  The scenes with Deb and Dex could be cleverly edited together, but I'm sort of hoping they aren't. Also, I hated her at first, but I really hope Lumen doesn't die. It would be too much of a repeat of last season and a dues ex machina to return things to the status quo. She can leave, she can only guest star every so often, but don't kill her.  Also, I'd like to point out what could be a complete change in the makeup of Dexter's character. It hasn't been touched on specifically, but we haven't seen signs of Dexter having a pathological need to kill since the end of the fourth season. He seems more like he's doing it out of a moral obligation now than an unstoppable, unshakeable hunger and addiction ala the first three and a half or so seasons. He's also acting as much to protect Lumen now as he is himself, going so far as to completely disregard his own self preservation several times at this point when he could just leave Lumen as a loose end to tie itself up. There hasn't been any specific calling out of character development, but I'd argue we are and have been seeing a brand new Dexter.\  ALSO ALSO (I keep adding things on!) considering Deb's reaction to her vigilante theory (almost admiration for the vigilante and her partner), I'm thinking if she DOES discover dex, she'll cover for him, believing this to be an isolated set of incidents and considering it justified. Plus, you know, it's Dexter. It's not like he's gonna out and say "Oh, by the way, the bay harbor butcher? Totally not Doakes."  OH OH OH AAAAND Let's not forget, Quinn totally knows Dexter killed Liddy. There's no way he won't put two and two together. However, I don't think this is going to spark further conflict between the two. In fact, considering Dexter realized Quinn didn't want to stalk him, and Quinn knowing what Liddy was doing to Dexter, they'll likely have some sort of mutual understanding at long last. Provided Quinn doesn't get nailed for Liddy's murder. "