Who do you think our greatest president was? I only added those who someone might actually choose, sorry to disappoint any Buchanan fans out there.
Who was, in your opinion, the greatest U.S. President?
Theodore Roosevelt, man was the most progressive president we ever had.
He busted the trusts, reformed the nation and built the panama canal.
All within the guidelines of the constitution.
abraham lincoln,what he did for black americans is one of the greatest things to happen to this country
Thomas Jefferson nearly doubled the land mass of the United States with the stroke of a pen through the Louisiana Purchase ($15,000,000). Additionally, as a proponent of an individual's liberty, he repealed the Alien and Sedition Acts and Midnight Judges Act, which have sadly all but been revived through the Patriot Act. The Alien and Sedition Acts removed due process from an immigrants rights, and the Midnight Judges Act allowed the President to appoint judges to federal courts without Congressional approval or oversight. Additionally, it was under Jefferson's term that conversations regarding the banning of the slave trade began. A compromise was reached in 1808 which banned the trade but required the government to send back any slaves smuggled into free states back to their state of ownership.
I voted Thomas Jefferson. The man was a genius and alot of what he said still applies today. You should look up some of his quotes on war and economics. Astounding.
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
"That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves."
"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies. "
"The central bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the Principles and form of our Constitution. I am an Enemy to all banks discounting bills or notes for anything but Coin. If the American People allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the People of all their Property until their Children will wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered."
Those last two quote especially applies to today.
"Theodore Roosevelt, man was the most progressive president we ever had.Glad to see more Teddy fans. I completely agree with what you said, the man was a brilliant progressive.
He busted the trusts, reformed the nation and built the panama canal.
All within the guidelines of the constitution.
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"thabigred said:The man perfected progressive beliefs, but I still had to go with Jefferson (Although Teddy was my second choice)."Theodore Roosevelt, man was the most progressive president we ever had.Glad to see more Teddy fans. I completely agree with what you said, the man was a brilliant progressive.
He busted the trusts, reformed the nation and built the panama canal.
All within the guidelines of the constitution.
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FDR, hands down. But Abraham Lincoln and George Washington (the good G.W.) are up there as well. Yet I'm pretty vexed as to why Jefferson would be in second place. He has name recognition, I get it, but why would anyone vote him to be the best president? Me thinks that very naive.
"I refuse to vote for a president who was in office before I was even alive, thus leaving me with a handful of choices. I chose Mr. Clinton because he totally had sexual relations with that woman!
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But she is ugly...
:O
A lot of flawed greats. Teddy gave us the idea of national parks and preserving the environment. Abe navigated the civil war. FDR got us past the nazis, Bush W gave us high comedy...
George Washington would be mine. They wanted to make him king and he told them to STFU about kings. He also predicted a 2 party system would destroy the USA. He was correct.
"A lot of flawed greats. Teddy gave us the idea of national parks and preserving the environment. Abe navigated the civil war. FDR got us past the nazis, Bush W gave us high comedy...
George Washington would be mine. They wanted to make him king and he told them to STFU about kings. He also predicted a 2 party system would destroy the USA. He was correct.
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He also predicted that increased involvement with external affairs would destroy the USA. He turned out to be correct there, too. =/
"I'm thinking you learned about Presidents solely from your K-12 years. FDR was a giant screw-up and almost destroyed our economy, Lincoln basically stomped all over the Constitution, and George Washington, while not bad, didn't do much of note during his presidency.FDR, hands down. But Abraham Lincoln and George Washington (the good G.W.) are up there as well. Yet I'm pretty vexed as to why Jefferson would be in second place. He has name recognition, I get it, but why would anyone vote him to be the best president? Me thinks that very naive.
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"BiggerBomb said:"I'm thinking you learned about Presidents solely from your K-12 years. FDR was a giant screw-up and almost destroyed our economy, Lincoln basically stomped all over the Constitution, and George Washington, while not bad, didn't do much of note during his presidency.FDR, hands down. But Abraham Lincoln and George Washington (the good G.W.) are up there as well. Yet I'm pretty vexed as to why Jefferson would be in second place. He has name recognition, I get it, but why would anyone vote him to be the best president? Me thinks that very naive.
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I'm 16 and school's not where I've learned my history. I like to do somethin' called research. He didn't have a perfect presidency, he had the best presidency. Almost destroyed our economy? When people say the New Deal didn't work, a red flag pops up that says they have no clue what they are talking about. In fact, once it started, the only time our economy began to dip again was when FDR suspended the ND due to unsubstantiated conservative backlash. This was in 1937. When it was put back into effect, the economy began its ascent once more.
"BiggerBomb said:"I'm thinking you learned about Presidents solely from your K-12 years. FDR was a giant screw-up and almost destroyed our economy, Lincoln basically stomped all over the Constitution, and George Washington, while not bad, didn't do much of note during his presidency.FDR, hands down. But Abraham Lincoln and George Washington (the good G.W.) are up there as well. Yet I'm pretty vexed as to why Jefferson would be in second place. He has name recognition, I get it, but why would anyone vote him to be the best president? Me thinks that very naive.
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Also, Lincoln did violate the Constitution. And? It didn't work, much like the current violations of our Constitution haven't worked. That's why we have the Constitution, so our country can work. But then, guess what? He unified a divided country that was embroiled in warfare through outstanding rhetoric and brilliantly tactical political maneuvers. That's something that the forefather of the Neo-Con movement, Mr. Reagan, cannot amount to.
"TheSixthHorseman said:I have no idea why so many people like Lincoln. He started the god dam civil war, a war that killed over 600,000 Americans! I mean come on! If he was the great leader that history has made him out to be he would have avoided the conflict."BiggerBomb said:"I'm thinking you learned about Presidents solely from your K-12 years. FDR was a giant screw-up and almost destroyed our economy, Lincoln basically stomped all over the Constitution, and George Washington, while not bad, didn't do much of note during his presidency.FDR, hands down. But Abraham Lincoln and George Washington (the good G.W.) are up there as well. Yet I'm pretty vexed as to why Jefferson would be in second place. He has name recognition, I get it, but why would anyone vote him to be the best president? Me thinks that very naive.
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Also, Lincoln did violate the Constitution. And? It didn't work, much like the current violations of our Constitution haven't worked. That's why we have the Constitution, so our country can work. But then, guess what? He unified a divided country that was embroiled in warfare through outstanding rhetoric and brilliantly tactical political maneuvers. That's something that the forefather of the Neo-Con movement, Mr. Reagan, cannot amount to."
You're also completely wrong about FDR; the post WW2 downturn in the economy was not becuase he stopped the ND. Care to tell us where you do your research?
FDR is so badass. that speech that he made when he got out of his wheelchair to emphasize his point and all that, was figgin awesome.
"Where is Bush?LOL! wait, you were joking right?
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Abe, GW, RR or Teddy
As a Republican, it's tough because we've had so many damn fine presidents in our party to choose from. We've also had some slip-ups, but for the most part, we've done good for ourselves.
I have no idea why so many people like Lincoln. He started the god dam civil war, a war that killed over 600,000 Americans! I mean come on! If he was the great leader that history has made him out to be he would have avoided the conflict.
You're also completely wrong about FDR; the post WW2 downturn in the economy was not becuase he stopped the ND. Care to tell us where you do your research?
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Care to tell us where you do your research? If you are that simple minded, well...I'll go out on a limb and say you live in the deep south.
"ManMadeGod said:seriouslyI have no idea why so many people like Lincoln. He started the god dam civil war, a war that killed over 600,000 Americans! I mean come on! If he was the great leader that history has made him out to be he would have avoided the conflict.
You're also completely wrong about FDR; the post WW2 downturn in the economy was not becuase he stopped the ND. Care to tell us where you do your research?
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Care to tell us where you do your research? If you are that simple minded, well...I'll go out on a limb and say you live in the deep south."
It's hard to rank old presidents against each other. You really have to take the situation in its context to do so. For example people like to shit on Andrew Jackson for the so called Trail of Tears. Where else were these Indians supposed to go? He is the reason they were not wiped out completely. America was going to be a white man's country whether anyone liked it or not. If he had not moved them, eventually the local southerners would have wiped them out themselves in order to gain more land. Just look at all the tribes that used to be in the north. All killed off.
Anyways I would probably have to go with Lincoln. He helped preserve our forefather's dream of a republican nation and freed the slaves. During his presidency a lot of medical facilities began to pop up and he was a big believer in such things as the railroads.
Just puttin this out their. Went to some thing after school a week ago. Some dude told us about George Washington. Dude didnt chop down no Cherry Tree. Thats fucked up man.
"ManMadeGod said:I was expected more than this shallow response. I love how you totally avoided my question and deiced to attack where I live (and guess wrong in the process).I have no idea why so many people like Lincoln. He started the god dam civil war, a war that killed over 600,000 Americans! I mean come on! If he was the great leader that history has made him out to be he would have avoided the conflict.
You're also completely wrong about FDR; the post WW2 downturn in the economy was not becuase he stopped the ND. Care to tell us where you do your research?
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Care to tell us where you do your research? If you are that simple minded, well...I'll go out on a limb and say you live in the deep south."
Nothing I said was simple minded. You clam that "He unified a divided country that was embroiled in warfare" yet when lincoln took office, only 7 states had declared that they no longer wanted to be part of the United States. Most southern states, like Virgin, had voted against succession even after Lincoln became president. A few months later there was 11 states that had left and war had erupted. Lincoln did nothing to avoid this war. My fellow Americans need to see Lincoln for what he was: a tyrant. Sorry if I would rather of have a peaceful Emancipation like Britain and the the rest of the world. I'm sorry if I don't support Lincoln's War.
Jefferson Davis sent numerous peace convoys to Washington and all where totally ignored. Thousands of Americans (such as Francis Key Howard) where arrest and throw into jail without a trail for speaking out against the war. If you so wish to do some research (which you clam to do), go track down old newspaper articals (and headlines) from the start of the war (1860-61). You will find that many northern papers spoke out against Lincon's decition to coax the South into firing the first shot. Of course, almost all of these papers where censored or shut down once the war started. To the victor goes to the spoils, and one of the spoils of this war was the history books. People need to spend more time looking into the problems the country was going through at this time, and the disastrous Lincoln administration. If you wish to read more about the secret police force set up by William Sweard, and the thousands of Americans arrested, please pick up Constitutional Problems Under Lincoln by James G Randall. Or you could just read up on Clement L. Vallandigham, a member of the house who was a arrested for speaking out against "honest abe".
I could keep going, but I rather not. Since you clam to research stuff, you can fill in the rest if you so care to learn the truth. Speaking of research, care to answer my question now?
"I only think one is naive if they choose JFK, who is likely the worst on that list because he was assassinated before he could really make his mark. McKinley is another who died too early, else he would be better. Of course, had McKinley not been shot, T. Roosevelt may never have been president.FDR, hands down. But Abraham Lincoln and George Washington (the good G.W.) are up there as well. Yet I'm pretty vexed as to why Jefferson would be in second place. He has name recognition, I get it, but why would anyone vote him to be the best president? Me thinks that very naive.
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