It doesn't seem like there's a lot added on top of Forza 3 here.

Just bought Forza 3 yesterday so I'll probably won't pick up Forza 4 until the Ultimate Collection is released.

Yeah, the more Forza the better. Totally accurate and feels amazing. The menus always display a ton of information in the right areas so you don't feel overwhelmed. I've always felt that Forza has been the best racing game since Gran Turismo 3. There aren't many areas to improve on, so new features are great. There isn't a franchise out there that reached potential like Forza 3 did. While most games have areas to improve, Forza is damn near perfect.

My Amazon pre-order for the special edition is paid for. I'm just waiting for the chance to get back in to a great game.

@Brendan said:

It doesn't seem like there's a lot added on top of Forza 3 here.

Yeah, that 20 seconds of preview really shows the entire game.

Aw shit, a Brian Ekberg joint? AWS YEAH.

I wish they made Forza for the ps3, oh well. Its probably so good because they only focus on one platform in the first place. I've thought of buying a 360 just for this game and some other games, but with the impending new consoles I rather spend my money on other stuff.

I bought both Forza 2 and 3 Collector's Editions, but this time I'll pass. So far all I've seen that is new is the Top Gear stuff and slightly more polished graphics. Maybe I'm missing something, but so far it seems more like Forza 3.5 than Forza 4.

Don't really like sims but I figured it's about time I give Forza a shot.

Gah - this means I might have to get another 360.

I love racing games and the handling, tuning options and car selection in Forza 3 was great but the game aspect of it was really boring. Playing through the game in single player is hell, you spend the first hour on the same two tracks then you get to play another set of tracks for a few hours. After about ten hours of gameplay I raced on maybe ten different tracks (normal and reversed) and the goal was always the same: get first place. They have so few game modes in the Forza games, Dirt is a great example of how they can mix it up. I think I raced on even fewer tracks on Dirt but it changes modes and car classes all the time so it doesn't feel repetitive.

Jeff, I love Pringles. The reduced fat original flavor ones are the best.

@dagas said:

I bought both Forza 2 and 3 Collector's Editions, but this time I'll pass. So far all I've seen that is new is the Top Gear stuff and slightly more polished graphics. Maybe I'm missing something, but so far it seems more like Forza 3.5 than Forza 4.

Car clubs, improved physics, rivals mode, autovista, public custom lobbies, autocross, alternate time of day, 16 Player online, 12 cars on track in single player, and active aero. Plus new cars and tracks of course. There are also a bunch of little fixes such as backfire, improved photomode shots, better replay angles, proper cockpit lighting and FOV, improved audio effects, etc.

It's all the little things that add up to make a big difference.

@VIDI said:

I love racing games and the handling, tuning options and car selection in Forza 3 was great but the game aspect of it was really boring. Playing through the game in single player is hell, you spend the first hour on the same two tracks then you get to play another set of tracks for a few hours. After about ten hours of gameplay I raced on maybe ten different tracks (normal and reversed) and the goal was always the same: get first place. They have so few game modes in the Forza games, Dirt is a great example of how they can mix it up. I think I raced on even fewer tracks on Dirt but it changes modes and car classes all the time so it doesn't feel repetitive.

It's a simulation racing game. You want excitement? Shut off assists, up the AI difficulty, and prepare yourself for some truly white knuckles racing. The whole point is improvement. Get out of your comfort zone.

Perhaps ill finally get in on the forza-series

@davo said:

Jeremy Clarkson is the best Jeremy Clarkson...in the world.

Nice!

yes

@Doctorchimp said:

How long was the dramatic intro movie? Is it better than Gran Turismo's?

Only if it has 3 intro movies to trump GT5's 2.

@conanpowerftw said:

Perhaps ill finally get in on the forza-series

Seems we're in the same spot. I haven't played any Forza since the original game for the Xbox.

Don't think I'll be able to turn down Jeremy Clarkson. He's THE man.

I'm not sure why I bothered to read this preview, if I walked into a game shop and saw a box with Forza 4 in black bold times new roman on a plain white cover with a price of roughly £40 and I could be sure it was a genuine product I would give that man roughly £40 for that box.

In fact I suggest an edit of this preview:

Forza 4: It's real. It's Forza, It's out sometime in October.

I think that would be enough for us all.

Since I skipped Forza 3, I am going to be all over Forza 4.

My body is ready.

Bitch, you so Pringles, WHERE'S YOUR CURLY MUSTACHE AT?!

0_0 Those screenshots are amazing, I might actually pick this one up.

When I say its same game, It is mostly same as Forza 3, then why release new title based on new graphics etc. Unless they want to turn these series in to quick cash in with yearly release...

@avidwriter said:

It looks good but after a game like Driver SF, does just driving around a track for laps do it for anyone anymore?

Wow..

That's like asking if you want to go back to playing Madden after playing Jerry Rice and Nitus dog football...

@gladspooky said:

@Afroman269 said:

@gladspooky said:

They should really just let people import pictures instead of letting them spend dozens of hours constructing the Pringles guy, if at least for their own sanity.

The developers said they could easily do that but they actually appreciate the work that the game community does in creating these images. It's fun for the people who can do it and they are rewarded for their work by putting it in the auction house. Letting people import pictures would just ruin it for the people who are actually talented enough to accomplish that stuff the hard way.

Oh, is that their reason? I figured it was "Someone could just take a picture of their dick and put it on a car," but then I would be like, "But that dude's going to put his dick on that car whether you make it easy for him or not," but oh well.

It's in part that of course but then again, like you said, they can make a dick with shapes if they want too right now lol.

No the real reason is because if they use shapes like they do right now you are essentialy making vector graphics instead of bitmaps (if you would upload a picture) which means you can easily scale it and modifiy it. The decal will look as good if you use it on a Mini or an Hummer.

Oh and using shapes is also like 1/10 of the size of the bitmap equivelent so you have a lot less stuff to transfer while doing storefront or online races.

Been off Forza 3 for quite a while now, so more Forza awesomeness sounds great right now. More real tracks, please please please. Sonoma's in at least.

You got me Jeff. Helpin' out yur brosef at T10? LOL, preorder inbound :).

Sounds like crazy fun, I can't wait!

I'm really curious to read/hear what Drew thinks about it, his experience with driving games really makes me want to see if it's a good game for both crowds (driving enthusiasts - other)

FTA "Considering how many different ways you can earn credits in Forza, the whole car token thing seems a little silly."

Mostly I agree with that statement however there have been times in Forza 3 where I didnt have a specific car in a specific class and it would have taken hours to gain the credits needed to buy it in game. I would spend under a hundred points to save myself some time in that case BUT only if I was very very far into the game. Im talking like 20 hours into the game here. I want to earn everything I can but once ive stopped playing the game daily then I dont mind cheating a bit. I played Forza 3 every day for almost a year. I have the Forza 3 limited edition leather seat with wheel mount...omg heaven lol!

Is it true that no Porsches will be in the game at all?

Really excited for the Rivals mode -- I like the game, but sometimes just playing against AI and trying to master the cars gets...well discouraging...so racing against friends on different tracks and being able to borrow cars for those challenges seems like a great idea.

@Mihos said:

Is it true that no Porsches will be in the game at all?

That's true, except for Ruffs unfortunately.

I can't wait to get my hands on this game and set time laps on nürburgring and the top gear test track!

As Jeremy Clarkson would said: This will be the best racing game...... In the world.

I wish my racing wheel worked with the 360. I really don't want to spend money on a second wheel.

@avidwriter: Driving around a track has much more purpose then free riding in some random SA city. Putting in the fastest lap time with pure racing, is the most awesome thing....... in the world! And we can never have enough Jeremy Clarkson!

Forza 3 probably took up 100 hours of my time, and 4 looks like it will probably do the same.... ya!

Damn, I was hoping he got to try out the Kinect head tracking thing.

I know it sounds stupid, but the whole time I played Forza 3 I was thinking "god dammit why can't I look out my window?!". It's like they catered specifically to me haha

*hurl*

Bring back the divinity that was Forza 2.

I still haven't beat enough of F3, so I may just hold off for an Ultimate Platinum Hits edition.

I wish you can focus on both cars.

I want to spent a few hours with Forza 4.... actually more then a few!

@avidwriter: Yes. Yes it does. Different game play types for different types of gamers.This is sim at it's finest. Driver is not even in the same ballpark, gameplay-wise.

They had a booth with this game set up at Eurogamer and it had been shoved in the corner and seemed to be largely ignored by most of the people there. I walked past it several times over the course of the two days I was there and there was always a console free and no queue to play. Seems weird considering the level of hype for this game. Maybe the marketing just hasn't kicked in properly yet?

@Sweep said:

They had a booth with this game set up at Eurogamer and it had been shoved in the corner and seemed to be largely ignored by most of the people there. I walked past it several times over the course of the two days I was there and there was always a console free and no queue to play. Seems weird considering the level of hype for this game. Maybe the marketing just hasn't kicked in properly yet?

Europe/UK is Gran Turismo territory.

@Sweep said:

They had a booth with this game set up at Eurogamer and it had been shoved in the corner and seemed to be largely ignored by most of the people there. I walked past it several times over the course of the two days I was there and there was always a console free and no queue to play. Seems weird considering the level of hype for this game. Maybe the marketing just hasn't kicked in properly yet?

That sounds a lot like how Forza 4 was handled at PAX Prime: old demo and nothing fancy at the booth. Maybe they're assuming that no one at these kind of expos is interested in racing sims.

Kind of mindboggling, as far as I'm concerned. Then again, I'm a bit biased on the matter.

@goudaj said:

@Sweep said:

They had a booth with this game set up at Eurogamer and it had been shoved in the corner and seemed to be largely ignored by most of the people there. I walked past it several times over the course of the two days I was there and there was always a console free and no queue to play. Seems weird considering the level of hype for this game. Maybe the marketing just hasn't kicked in properly yet?

Europe/UK is Gran Turismo territory.

I'm No Gran Turismo fan and from europe, always prefered Forza because it had one thing over GT and that was damage modelling. Give me Forza over GT anyday. with the exception of F1.

Needs more mania.

@OtakuGamer said:

I don't know, the thrill of driving isn't really showcased in this game, not as much as the DiRT series anyway. Don’t quote me on it.