i think it will be good. they are going to change it. other FPS games u respawn with new weapsons. i think the jet pack is going to add more in gaming.

I think if you consider yourself a competite player, then you'll adapt to what they give you. 

Shooter Game A does not let you spawn with grenades. Strategy forms around getting grenades.
Shooter Game B lets you spawn with grenades. Babies cry because that's not how they use to play, everyone else adapts, new strategies are developed.
 
Is this not how it works? I'm not competitive, so I don't know.

No one's putting a gun to your head to make you play the newest Halo game, or any game for that matter.
 
You're complaining that a gaming company is trying to make their game more accessible and approachable by more people, meaning they'll sell more copies? What would you prefer? They make the game so punishing and unforgiving that no one but the hardest of core actually plays it? And then they go out of business because no one is buying their very expensive-to-develop game?

" If you ask me they are taking out things that made halo crap. (Floaty jumping) Characters now seem like they have more weight and real. Like it should be. "

I never really liked any of the powerups very much in the first place. I prefer clean maps with no powerups and no power weapons (sniper and rockets). Just give everyone the same gun, and go. I"m more of a purest I guess.

So you're saying halo 2 was good because the stupid could win very easily?

MLG will find some way of making this game awful and the furthest thing away from competitive like they do with anything they touch. I imagine Bungie will throw you a bone and make some dreadful "absolutely no random things can ever occur mode" to give people some perception of skill. That kind of playing (the same the people who play Smash Bros. competitively only play on one map with pre-approved characters to remove any thing they perceive as random. People playing that game as more than happy fun time Nintendo characters is beyond me but whatevs) is the same as learning something by rote and has nothing to do with skill.

" MLG will find some way of making this game awful and the furthest thing away from competitive like they do with anything they touch. I imagine Bungie will throw you a bone and make some dreadful "absolutely no random things can ever occur mode" to give people some perception of skill. That kind of playing (the same the people who play Smash Bros. competitively only play on one map with pre-approved characters to remove any thing they perceive as random. People playing that game as more than happy fun time Nintendo characters is beyond me but whatevs) is the same as learning something by rote and has nothing to do with skill. "

The vast majority of gamers these days seem very down on the Halo franchise.  Why?  Because nothing about it has really changed since Combat Evolved came out on the Xbox back in 2000 or 2001 or whatever year it was released.   There need to be changes, and glancing at the response to what's been shown so far, what they've done is working.  It's about appealing to the masses.  Halo's always been about that, and if you're afraid of the change, well, time to look elsewhere for your "competitive" play.  I hear there are some PC shooters that are really good for that.

" @Fosssil: The hoop changing sizes wasn't designed into the game from its very beginning. If something is included in a game from the time it was designed and made even if its random then a skilled player (if they are actually skilled at a game) should be able to adapt to anything that comes up not just using the same plan and tactic over and over again.  Also I'm actively glad my knowledge of the Smash Brothers tournament scene is flawed. "

" @Fosssil: Its very definitely still random. If for instance a sports team is reduced by a player because of an injury or a player gets sent off the rest of the team will have to adapt to it and if they are skilled still win. Unexpected events are the real test of whether someone is good at something or not, whether they can adapt to them or not. "

All I've discovered "MLG Settings" to do is take out everything but the BR and sniper, which honestly, makes Halo the same as every other game out there. Bungie even PUT IN the Assault Rifle you are saying ruins the balance for the SOLE PURPOSE of MLG players to have a DECENT starting weapon to defend themselves with.
 
I'd rather play with everything on the Battlefield with EVERYONE having the exact same options to fight against, because that is what competition is about. Skill within the game you decide to play. Whether it's a sport or not. Not changing the rules to suit yourself.

" What happened to playing games for fun? That's what I like to do. "

I'd like to see a more clean separation between the hyper-competitive and the casual playlists. In Halo 3, social and ranked were ostensibly the same thing, and you were always paired up against uber-players regardless. I'd like to see the return of Team Training from Halo 2, at the very least.