I like Patriotism.

It got really annoying at times.

"Uh, it's the army. They're fighting for their country and risking their lives so of course it's a fucking patriotic show case, I'd expect nothing less. Otherwise what's the dialog? "Let's get those other sensible people! They have opposing view points and I respect that!" "

Bought this issue up myself, makes me a little sick actually.  
 
Every quote seems to be about how great America is, poor country is a little disillusioned. 

If you don't like American patriotism then don't fucking play a video game made in America about the American military.

" As a Brit, absolutely. I'm just thankful the game isn't solely "America, Fuck Yeah!" like so many of these things are. Thank goodness for Price and MacTavish. "

It didn't bother me that much in MW2, only when they would say 'HOOAH'. It's hard to complain when the heroes are British though.
 
Most US military movies really annoy me though.

I didnt really notice that so no

" If you don't like American patriotism then don't fucking play a video game made in America about the American military. "

" As a Brit, absolutely. I'm just thankful the game isn't solely "America, Fuck Yeah!" like so many of these things are. Thank goodness for Price and MacTavish. "

Wasn't getting any overt patriotism.  In fact, the way the game pans out, it's almost ANTI-patriotic in a way.

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Wasn't getting any overt patriotism.  In fact, the way the game pans out, it's almost ANTI-patriotic in a way.

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I like it because it's over the top. Whether or not that's intentional, I don't know, but I find it funny either way.

The opening scene with Shepard talking over it made me realise how badly written the campaign was.

Didn't catch any of the overt patriotism.
 
Also: OP is clearly euro.

I didn't even notice anything overtly patriotic. I was too busy having fun to bother with those details.

" What really got me was that part near the beginning, during one of the loading screens, where Shepherd was going on about how every fight was America's fight, and it made me remember how your military continuously pokes its nose where it doesn't belong.  EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I love the U.S. for other things, like Jazz and McDonalds, just not for your military. "

Didn't bother me at all. If the American army in MW2 love their country a little too much, so be it. Actually, I think it worked pretty well, seeing as America was being fucked over for practically the entire game.

" @Bones8677 said:

" @Captain_Insano said:

" It's not as bad as war films (Saving Private Ryan, opens with an American flag. Tears and sad memories, you'd think that America was the only country fighting in WWII, which they joined 3 years after it started)  So I think Call of Duty is a known quantity "

That movie follows American troops, and the opening scene takes place at Arlington National Cemetery in DC. Of course there's gonna be an American flag. "

I don't know where you get Arlington from. It's actually the American cemetery in Colleville-sur-mer, Normandy. It's basically just up the hill from Omaha beach. The point is, there's barely any indication that there were Brits, Irish and French soldiers on those beaches too. A bit OT, but I just wanted to point that out. I have no comments on the game. "

" As a Brit, absolutely. I'm just thankful the game isn't solely "America, Fuck Yeah!" like so many of these things are. Thank goodness for Price and MacTavish. "

" @twillfast said:

" @Bones8677 said:

" @Captain_Insano said:

" It's not as bad as war films (Saving Private Ryan, opens with an American flag. Tears and sad memories, you'd think that America was the only country fighting in WWII, which they joined 3 years after it started)  So I think Call of Duty is a known quantity "

That movie follows American troops, and the opening scene takes place at Arlington National Cemetery in DC. Of course there's gonna be an American flag. "

I don't know where you get Arlington from. It's actually the American cemetery in Colleville-sur-mer, Normandy. It's basically just up the hill from Omaha beach. The point is, there's barely any indication that there were Brits, Irish and French soldiers on those beaches too. A bit OT, but I just wanted to point that out. I have no comments on the game. "

  THE MOVIE IS ABOUT A DUDE NAMED PRIVATE RYAN, WHO NEEDS SAVING.  This dude happens to be an American.  Hence, it's a movie about American soldiers.  Made by American filmmakers.  For America.  You're welcome (europe) for fixing your mess.  "

I don't always agree with it and its not perfect and I don't like the path were on right now but I love my country and the fact that we have people who are willing to die to just live here speaks volumes.
 
So AMERICA FUCK YEA!

" Dude... I'm wondering if some of you even played the same game as me...  Both this game and COD4 seem borderline anti-war.  Sure, you spend most of the time shooting dudes up and saving the free world and all that, but both of them are totally cynical and seem mostly designed to point out how stupid actual war is.  Like in both games, despite how many dudes you tear up, your character is always in a worse position than when you started.  Saying this game is patriotic is like saying the movie Borat was anti-semitic. "

"As a Brit, absolutely. I'm just thankful the game isn't solely "America, Fuck Yeah!" like so many of these things are. Thank goodness for Price and MacTavish. "

" What really got me was that part near the beginning, during one of the loading screens, where Shepherd was going on about how every fight was America's fight, and it made me remember how your military continuously pokes its nose where it doesn't belong.  EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I love the U.S. for other things, like Jazz and McDonalds, just not for your military.  

i like taking the fight back to the US. it just feels closer to home.

Uh, did you not play the rest of the game?

Nope. Maybe it's because the most "patriotic" characters in the game are the big bad genocidal American General and the Ultranationalist Hero Zakhaev. The rest of the crew seems to actually be fighting for peace and stability in the world above any one government's goals or ideals.

" @twillfast said:

" @Bones8677 said:

" @Captain_Insano said:

" It's not as bad as war films (Saving Private Ryan, opens with an American flag. Tears and sad memories, you'd think that America was the only country fighting in WWII, which they joined 3 years after it started)  So I think Call of Duty is a known quantity "

That movie follows American troops, and the opening scene takes place at Arlington National Cemetery in DC. Of course there's gonna be an American flag. "

I don't know where you get Arlington from. It's actually the American cemetery in Colleville-sur-mer, Normandy. It's basically just up the hill from Omaha beach. The point is, there's barely any indication that there were Brits, Irish and French soldiers on those beaches too. A bit OT, but I just wanted to point that out. I have no comments on the game. "

  THE MOVIE IS ABOUT A DUDE NAMED PRIVATE RYAN, WHO NEEDS SAVING.  This dude happens to be an American.  Hence, it's a movie about American soldiers.  Made by American filmmakers.  For America.  You're welcome (europe) for fixing your mess.   

 

Oh yeah because America is the only country that lives in fear of nuclear attack these days. *huge f*cking sarcastic eyeroll*
 
In four years America figured out a way to neatly wrap up that 50 years of conflict and tension. We all figure out how to live together, or we all blow ourselves the f*ck up. I wouldn't say it wasn't a team effort, but credit where credit is due. It was the Manhattan Project, not the Paris Project or the London Project. And thank God it wasn't the Berlin Project.

" Oh yeah because America is the only country that lives in fear of nuclear attack these days. *huge f*cking sarcastic eyeroll*  In four years America figured out a way to neatly wrap up that 50 years of conflict and tension. We all figure out how to live together, or we all blow ourselves the f*ck up. I wouldn't say it wasn't a team effort, but credit where credit is due. It was the Manhattan Project, not the Paris Project or the London Project. And thank God it wasn't the Berlin Project. "

I think if you research the development of the Nuclear weapon you will find that their was a LOT of British and European scientists involved

The Book of Knowledge: Volume 1. Edited By Gordon Stowell

" In the early years of the second World War  the British Government decided to push ahead with the proposals put forward by a number of scientists for using explosive chain reaction in Urainium-235 to produce an atomic bomb. They did not know however how far German scientists had got along the same lines.

.......By the summer 1941 British Scientist knew enough to believe that an atomic bomb was a possibility within a few years. In October (before the United States was at war, president Roosevelt suggested joint research between British and American scientists and from February 1942 these worked together in up-most secrecy." (known as Manhattan project)

Manhattan project my arse the development of of atomic weapons started long before that. I will tell you now, Modern war is one of my passions i have a small library dedicated to it, so i would like to think that their is not many things i don't know about WW2. Also my opinions aren't bias, they are truthful and come from a lot time which i have dedicated to the research of Modern war, so please don't patronise me with outrageous claims      

Where's the 'indifferent' option? I didn't mind it too much.

I found being oscar mike constantly the most annoying part of the game..but thats about it. Anything that sounded very patriotic in those missions, was cut down by the latter where America looked just as bad as Russia. I dont really think it was thrown in our faces too much.
 
Anyway, The just like Cod4, Gaz, and Price were the best characters, in this game its the same, with the inclusion of Ghost and Soap. Best characters to me anyway, I found every single American character, much like the first almost entirely forgettable. Besides Keith David, of course. The quotes as well are not patriotic in any possible way. Very anti, and very revenge/vengeance based by a lot. The MW games specifically seem way more anti war and patriotic than any of the WW2 cod games.

I find it hilarious when people take credit for something their countries did before they were even born.
 
 
Modern Warfare 2 felt very ant-patriotic to me, which is one of the things I like about it. Especially the quotes that come up when you die.

Not american and I wasn't offended. On the contrary I think the game tries to carry the message that nations really IS the measles of mankind and that we should get rid of it already.  
 
Except the whole hooah-part in the beginning though. Also, notice how you carry a SCAR (or maybe it was a M4) of the same model when you're shooting civilians as when you're shooting terrorists. I find that to be a little subtle nudge.

As an American used to obnoxious unwarranted patriotism, I have no idea what you guys are talking about with overt patriotism. The main antagonist was a freaking U.S. general, and his motivations included exploiting US patriotism to create a stronger US military. And he was defeated by British S.A.S.  Perhaps I'm missing something.

" As a Brit, absolutely. I'm just thankful the game isn't solely "America, Fuck Yeah!" like so many of these things are. Thank goodness for Price and MacTavish. "

If you don't want to see american patriotism, dont play a game including the US army. 

I want to know why the U.S., on one hand gets criticized for entering World War 2 late, and on the other hand, gets criticized for intervening in conflicts in the first place? Would you rather the U.S. take Chamberlain's approach, and let the Nazis take over all of continental Europe? That's right, British people don't like to acknowledge the fact that they're the cause of World War 2. If they would have refused to appease Hitler, he wouldn't have had the courage to try and keep expanding. When the world's largest Navy gives you carte blanche on an entire continent, and you're an evil, expansionistic prick, you're going to take it.
 
 
I don't think it takes a genius to realize that the U.S. has no reason to continue fighting in Afghanistan or defending Iraq, but that is not the same as saying "the U.S. sticks its nose everywhere it doesn't belong." I guarantee you that the South Koreans are glad they did, and the Taiwanese nationalists wish they did. This is to say nothing of all the former eastern bloc countries who are dying to join NATO.

" @Adamantium said:

" Oh yeah because America is the only country that lives in fear of nuclear attack these days. *huge f*cking sarcastic eyeroll*  In four years America figured out a way to neatly wrap up that 50 years of conflict and tension. We all figure out how to live together, or we all blow ourselves the f*ck up. I wouldn't say it wasn't a team effort, but credit where credit is due. It was the Manhattan Project, not the Paris Project or the London Project. And thank God it wasn't the Berlin Project. "

I think if you research the development of the Nuclear weapon you will find that their was a LOT of British and European scientists involved

The Book of Knowledge: Volume 1. Edited By Gordon Stowell

" In the early years of the second World War  the British Government decided to push ahead with the proposals put forward by a number of scientists for using explosive chain reaction in Urainium-235 to produce an atomic bomb. They did not know however how far German scientists had got along the same lines.

.......By the summer 1941 British Scientist knew enough to believe that an atomic bomb was a possibility within a few years. In October (before the United States was at war, president Roosevelt suggested joint research between British and American scientists and from February 1942 these worked together in up-most secrecy." (known as Manhattan project)

Manhattan project my arse the development of of atomic weapons started long before that. I will tell you now, Modern war is one of my passions i have a small library dedicated to it, so i would like to think that their is not many things i don't know about WW2. Also my opinions aren't bias, they are truthful and come from a lot time which i have dedicated to the research of Modern war, so please don't patronise me with outrageous claims      

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Um...  I got the opposite vibe from this game.  I mean, most of the quotes when you die are about revenge, or how about patriotism is a bad thing.