" I don't see how any of this is Sony's fault, they were breached, instead of taking risks, they shut down the whole network. Hackers are supposedly fighting for consumer rights, while simultaneously taking away the rights of the consumer. No service is unbreakable, had this been a concentrated effort on any other online service, a similar situation would have occurred. 

Also, the comments making this out to be a major image draw back are being ridiculous it will be forgotten in a few weeks after the service is back up. It'd be like me saying that when Live was basically unusable for nearly a month back in 2007, that it would destroy it's image and stop people from re-subscribing to the service, but it didn't and no one even remembered the fiasco after a month into 2008.

"

" The PSN is down and Sony are rebuilding it because people who jailbreaked their console using the Rebug CFW could access special 'developer' partitions of the network. They are rebuilding the network to prevent people from accessing these partitions. There's why they took it down, no hackers have stolen credit card details or anything, so don't worry! "

" where is the quote about credit card information?the PC World article doesn't have a direct quote from anyone at Sony, just "someone said it", which is not good enough for me. "

" The PSN is down and Sony are rebuilding it because people who jailbreaked their console using the Rebug CFW could access special 'developer' partitions of the network. They are rebuilding the network to prevent people from accessing these partitions. There's why they took it down, no hackers have stolen credit card details or anything, so don't worry! "

Hmmm .... i can't remember if i ever put my credit card information? I don't have Playstation Plus, but i can't remember if i ever paid for any DLC.

God dammit, if I have to go through CC trouble just cause i bought some $1.00 DLC, that would just be ridicoulous.

Not a fan of this, Sony needs to learn to protect its consumers better.

I think i'll promptly delete any credit card information on the Sony servers onces this is online, and not buy anything from the PSN store again.

A multi billion dollar company got fucked by acouple of 18 year old kids in their mothers basement, What the fuck is Sony playing at didn't they have some sort of contingency plan for this.

 I have no sympathy for them, they let this happen.

 " I don't see how any of this is Sony's fault, they were breached, instead of taking risks,

" @ninjakiller said:

" @Jeffsekai said:

" @wh4tshisface said:

" @TurboMan said:

" great job of pissing off anonymous, Sony...  now we're all possibly in trouble. "

They already said they didn't do it.  "

Indeed. "

Shrug.  I no longer care at this point.  An elite hacker group who gets a bunch of 13 year olds to launch loic at a website does not an elite hacking group make.  Whether they did it or not is moot at this point, as they will bear the blame for this attack and deservedly so.  They attacked a service provided to customers for free instead of trying to target Sony's corporate servers or services.  This attack peaked the interest of a hacker with some actual skill who whether affiliated with Anonymous or not probed, infiltrated, and forced Sony to pull the plug.   "

this would make sense except that, aside from the initial attack, they didn't target PSN. They promptly launched an apology note when PSN initially went down from their attacks, and they began attacking Sony's corporate servers/services while deliberately avoiding the PlayStation Network. Their intent was never to harm the average consumer, they apologized for doing so, and then made sure that they weren't doing it anymore.  "

It is the year of the PS3

I'm pretty sure it is ILLEGAL for sony to suspect credit cards might be stolen, and then not tell us they think so. I don't think they are that stupid. But who knows at this point, really

" My xbox fan boyness is starting to coe out again. I bought my PS3 because I wanted to try the "superior" console. I'm not impressed "

This is unacceptable.

" This attack peaked the interest of a hacker with some actual skill who whether affiliated with Anonymous or not probed, infiltrated, and forced Sony to pull the plug.       "

" @random_guy23 said:

" The PSN is down and Sony are rebuilding it because people who jailbreaked their console using the Rebug CFW could access special 'developer' partitions of the network. They are rebuilding the network to prevent people from accessing these partitions. There's why they took it down, no hackers have stolen credit card details or anything, so don't worry! "

I've heard the same thing. "

" Please people, just read this:
@benjaebe said:

" @random_guy23 said:

" The PSN is down and Sony are rebuilding it because people who jailbreaked their console using the Rebug CFW could access special 'developer' partitions of the network. They are rebuilding the network to prevent people from accessing these partitions. There's why they took it down, no hackers have stolen credit card details or anything, so don't worry! "

I've heard the same thing. "

"

" @Jeffsekai:  Why because they said they didn't..? I should try that after i start robbing banks. But officer it wasn't me! :DOh well if you insist, carry on! "

" @Jeffsekai:  Why because they said they didn't..? I should try that after i start robbing banks. But officer it wasn't me! :DOh well if you insist, carry on! "

" Please people, just read this:
@benjaebe said:

" @random_guy23 said:

" The PSN is down and Sony are rebuilding it because people who jailbreaked their console using the Rebug CFW could access special 'developer' partitions of the network. They are rebuilding the network to prevent people from accessing these partitions. There's why they took it down, no hackers have stolen credit card details or anything, so don't worry! "

I've heard the same thing. "

"

One of the few times I'm glad I don't own a PS3, well until something like this happens on the 360.

" Please people, just read this:
@benjaebe said:

" @random_guy23 said:

" The PSN is down and Sony are rebuilding it because people who jailbreaked their console using the Rebug CFW could access special 'developer' partitions of the network. They are rebuilding the network to prevent people from accessing these partitions. There's why they took it down, no hackers have stolen credit card details or anything, so don't worry! "

I've heard the same thing. "

"

Nail secured firmly in coffin.

" @fisk0 said:

" Please people, just read this:
@benjaebe said:

" @random_guy23 said:

" The PSN is down and Sony are rebuilding it because people who jailbreaked their console using the Rebug CFW could access special 'developer' partitions of the network. They are rebuilding the network to prevent people from accessing these partitions. There's why they took it down, no hackers have stolen credit card details or anything, so don't worry! "

I've heard the same thing. "

"

How do you know this for sure though? A Japanese representative of Sony was the one who said that they weren't sure if CC info has been taken. "

@fisk0

" @p_p_o_d said:

" a quick look at popular hacker forums seems to make me this this is because of a recent hack that allowed people to use the dev network to add infinite funds to PSN accounts.   Nothing to do with leaked personal information thank god but you never know......
Accessing sonys private network and then exploiting it for free money seems pretty damn serious to me.   

I guess closing the exploit wont be hard but if they are adding extra security to make sure the hackers cant get onto there servers again which will take longer.  

Sony should have a easy case on there hands if they pursue the fuckers.

These people are straight up committing fraud and breaking a few other laws as well as pissing off every ps3 gamer at the moment so I dont think we would see as much random internet love for these guys as we did for geohot if this does lead to charges.   


Also if it is this then I would think sony could turn on some of the PSN so people can play online and sync trophies and stuff but they would keep the store offline for a few weeks while they re-secure any potential holes.   I expect another "shit is still broken" update from sony tonight.   Monday is tomorrow.  Should hear details then even if its just from a random developer angry at not selling DLC. "

Yeah, there seem to have been several critical security flaws, both inherently in how PSN handled PlayStation+ membership and flaws caused by debug features accessible by custom firmware.
This neoGAF thread discusses it with a bit more details: http://bit.ly/fUp2PN.
There are lots of guides on the net detailing how the money exploit was done, and the PS+ flaw didn't even require jailbreaking the machine, but seems to have been an error in how PSN handled the time trial versions of games, making it possible to trick the PS Store to unlock the full games for free. With all this going on, I think it's understandable that they had to shut the thing down and rebuild the entire thing from scratch. Extremely poor timing to have it happen right on the easter weekend, but letting it continue would probably cause a much bigger loss of money.
"

No CC info has been stolen. Someone posed a comment at the US Playstation Blog that someone posted at the Sony PLaystation EU facebook page that CC info was safe. take it for what its worth.

" @AncientMecha said:

" But Anonymous isn't anti-consumer right? Right? PFFFFSH, right. "

They didn't do this one. "

ya get what you pay for

I really think there needs to be some law passed that requires companies who keep "secure" information on its customers to immediately disclose the exact nature of an attack like this and detail exactly what personal information could be in danger. 

"Sony is unable to determine if someone has collected your credit card number or other bits of identifying personal information."

WTF? They're not sure? That sounds an awful fucking lot like, "Probably, but we're afraid you'll get mad if we tell you."
I guess it's time to cancel my credit card?

at least gears 3 beta came out for preorders

Code black, code black. We have a breach.

Glad I don't have my cc info on PSN. Already just had to deal with some person taking my live account and buying $70 worth of microsoft points with my card. 

Read-watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWafI_L-wOE

It's times like this that I'm actually grateful that PSN is too stupid to accept my debit card.

Maybe I should worry.  Or maybe not since the credit card I have on it expires in two months.

" I wanna play MK online so bad! "

Hope they have something planned to make up for this mess, at least for Plus subscribers who pay for the service.

That is why I buy the Playstation cards and Xbox Live points in the store.

Fact: XBL has been down more times than PSN. If this situation does turn out to be detrimental to people's credit card info, of course it's way worse. Until then, the fact that people who paid for XBL Gold access have been unable to use it for WAY longer spans than this is still far worse, so let's not start the fanboy fights just yet because there is no comparison.

"

"

Ugh. This is getting ugly. 

" That is why I buy the Playstation cards and Xbox Live points in the store. "

Well thank goodness I still have PC and Steam and Mortal Ko..oh.. right, no PC version.
Siiiiigh.

I for one think it's hilarious that people in all this shit still find the need to bash XBL to make themselves sleep better at night. Your console of choice and your personal playtime got majorly screwed over, but obviously XBL is the turd in the punchbowl.

" Fact: XBL has been down more times than PSN. If this situation does turn out to be detrimental to people's credit card info, of course it's way worse. Until then, the fact that people who paid for XBL Gold access have been unable to use it for WAY longer spans than this is still far worse, so let's not start the fanboy fights just yet because there is no comparison. "