" Level, Win/Loss record, K/D ratio, speed runs, leaderboards, achievements, high scores, completion percentage, story, bragging rights, OCD, number of games beaten to date, the list goes on and on.What I'm saying is that different people derive pleasure from videogames in different ways - each as valid as the last.I hope someday we all come to an understanding about this. "Yes but at the same time, a lot of these people just aren't giving themselves enough credit. My little brother does this where he acts like something is impossible for him, but when he stops looking for help he does really well. Some people really do just want to see it all, but this is Portal, not Myst. The game is designed well enough that if your going for those kinds of quick answers to a problem, it's less because of what you get out of it and more just not wanting to try. And with Portal, if you don't solve those puzzles, the rest of the game is much less enjoyable. Because there are parts where you need to understand the mechanics to understand the world or the humor or the story, or to do the right thing at the right time so awesome things happen.
Portal 2
Game » consists of 20 releases. Released Apr 19, 2011
Portal 2 is the sequel to the acclaimed first-person puzzle game, carrying forward its love of mind-bending problems and its reckless disregard for the space-time continuum.
Are People too Soft, Lazy, or Dumb Nowadays?
I don't think you understand how IQ testing works. The median IQ of 100 is SET. The median is never below or above 100, otherwise there is no standard or baseline by which the an individual can check their IQ against. Essentially once they figure out how the test is scored and scaled, they assign 100 to the median score. If societies 10,000 years ago had the same IQ tests we have now, their median score would be 100 also, even though they would be incredibly less intelligent than we are now." @RsistncE said:
" @TheHumanDove said:umm actually no....the median IQ is 100, which means that roughly half of the worlds people are at least somewhat bright "" @RsistncE said:I'm just giving you a simple measure. All I'm saying is that the VAST majority of people aren't incredibly bright. "" To clear this up for you: the vast majority of people are stupid as shit.Yes, because only people who go to university are successful in life and intelligent. "Do the math:"Less than 1% of the human population will get through University/College...and half of those people are complete idiots also.
" @RsistncE said:My 'calculation' was just a rough stab at a general issue in the world: that most people are stupid, I didn't realize so many people were going to take it that literally. It can be fixed, but not overnight obviously." To clear this up for you: the vast majority of people are stupid as shit.If that is the case then it's because there are no forms of higher education available...in countries where those are it's closer to 30% these days. "Do the math:"Less than 1% of the human population will get through University/College...and half of those people are complete idiots also.
" pretty baffling that anyone could get stuck in this game. "This is where I'm at. If you're getting 'stuck' on this game it's either because you are rushing to the ending, or you're a little bit dense. A possible exception might be made for people who never played the first game and just happened upon this one so close to release without any idea what they were doing, and who learn relatively slowly. I'm fucking terrible at puzzle games. Braid almost killed me and that wasn't an especially complicated puzzle game. The longest I was trapped on a level in Portal 2 was... Let's call it fifteen minutes. I mean, you only have so many things to work with. You have momentum, some gels, two portals. The most difficult level for me, I think, was the one where the white gel lets you make a portal anywhere you want, because at that point I had to actually decide where to start and use trial and error.
People are lazy. This game was marketed to the masses, so the masses bought it, and the masses don't want to sit around for fifteen minutes on a level with nothing exploding or making conversation.
My 'calculation' was just a rough stab at a general issue in the world: that most people are stupid, I didn't realize so many people were going to take it that literally. It can be fixed, but not overnight obviously. "You also need to differentiate between intelligence and education. I have encountered several people who have spent a lot of time in academia who are fucking stupid, just as I have met people who dropped out after high school who are extremely smart.
I would just like to point out that Will and Norm from tested totally agree with me.
I completely disagree. Some people aren't geared for puzzle solving and have more trouble than most people might. Two of my friends bought Portal 2 day one for the story, humour and atmosphere. The puzzles are completely ancillary to their enjoyment of the game. They shouldn't be chastised for asking for help on puzzles because that's not what they came for and it isn't in their skill-set. I didn't have any serious troubles with any of the puzzles but I don't consider people dumb if they needed help.
" To clear this up for you: the vast majority of people are stupid as shit.well usually people who say other people are "stupid as shit" are the bigger moronsDo the math:"Less than 1% of the human population will get through University/College...and half of those people are complete idiots also.
Wait, so you draw some sort of conclusion from people who ask for help in this game?
I finished Portal 2 about 10 minutes ago. I had trouble with one level. However, my little brother finished it way faster than me. Does this suggest he's smarter than me?
He might be, but he's unlikely to be that much smarter than me to make an impact that big. Instead it would be more realistic to entertain the idea of different thought process.
Drawing the conclusion that Portals actually requires more than basic intelligence is outrageous. There are about 11 variables you have to consider in the game in total (2x portals, 3xgoo, 2xcube, 1xenemy, 1x stream, 1x laser bridge..ah yea, trampolines). Every level have fewer variables than that and believe it or not but people in general can handle alot more brain stress than that. Making the game out to be really advanced and calling people stupid over it might be the laziest analysis Ive seen in a good while.
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