They are actually working on getting ads into their free version of the podcast, I guess that takes some sort of setup that I know nothing about. I think the key thing folks are missing from this discussion is that with this Patreon, they are able to do what they want. Does what they want look a lot like what's already being done sometimes? Sure. But they have given themselves the freedom to do that, and have lots of free offerings so you don't HAVE to spend money on it. It's also very early on in this business for them and there is so much going on in the back end that we won't see. It's only been just about 5 months. Things are still growing and being put into place. Maybe it's not for you now, maybe you check it out in a few months and see if you like any of the new things. No one is forcing anyone to pay money to them if they don't want to.