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@Hailinel said:

From the outside looking in, and for people who only had a vague understanding of the community in any sense prior to this past week's blow-up, Aris's actions have single-handedly painted a picture of a scene that is misogynistic, immature, and defensive.

Thats the problem. It's a view that is only founded by this one incident. If you are not part of this community then you have no emotional investment in it and do not understand the lengths in which people have attempted to distance themselves from this perception. There are very few people who support sexism within many of the FG communities i visit (Srk, Eventhubs, Iplaywinner, r/sf4). This was not an isolated incident, and in many communities there are a shit ton of sexists (Reddit anyone?). But if you keep lumping the entire FGC into this one sexist bunch, the only thing you are encouraging is that the FGC just locks down tighter then what it already is. You will promote more isolation which will allow further proliferation of the mentalities that we were condemned for. People that do not even agree with Aris will find no allies except for those within the FGC.

@Animasta: CHECK MY INITIAL POST!!!. I was responding to a person saying that he was just a crossdresser.

@FUMN said:

Kayo Police (a transgender Japanese girl),

@Animasta: Thats why I called her a female in my original post......

@Hailinel: The whole idea of FGC is misleading. We are not a community, we are not organized and we are generally do not have a cohesive view. The FGC is unlike Starcraft and Halo. We are not used to being professionally sponsored or organized. Think of this.

People seem to think as Aris as a spokesperson sent forth from the organization called the FGC. He said some shit and its the FGC's fault for what he said because they put him up there. (First off it was Capcom that decided that Aris would be the captain, not the community)

The FGC is more like a giant room filled with thousands of people all saying different shit. And somehow Aris' words seemed to be highlighted above all else.

To answer your questions:

1. wondering what in the flying fuck allowed Aris to rise to such a visible position within it. - 1st As I said, the FGC did not decide to specifically send Aris to Crossassualt. That was Capcoms choice, and that was their error, not the FGC. Secondly, Aris is literally the foundation for the American tekken scene. He is renowned and is practically the Jwong of Tekken.

2. Most of the conversation regarding the situation from members of the FGC is with other members of the FGC, not the people on the outside.- first, Because the outside doesnt understand that we are not a cohesive community. We are not organized. We do not have a spokesman. We simply aren't what people perceive us as. Second, this is a problem within select members of the FGC. Why shouldn't we attempt to get them to straighten themselves out internally? Marn has been banned as a commentator, others have been banned. We are working on it from the inside, so that our outward appearance reflects our inner work.

3. Patrick asked a number of the community's figures for comment, and he's getting little feedback in response. Why are they not willing to talk about it? If they have something positive to say about the community or want to show that Aris is not representative of the community, then they should be lining up to talk to people like Patrick, not giving him the cold shoulder while choosing to instead address members within the community. It just makes them look like they're waiting for the whole thing to blow over. --- What community figures is he asking? The FGC does not have PR people, we don't have people person celebrities. We have good players. There is no internal office of FGC elites. Why is the FGC held responsible for Capcoms decision to put Aris with a microphone? What else could be said about the situation other then "yeah, Aris is an asshole dude" ?

Oh and this. http://cfile10.uf.tistory.com/media/1163A83E4EA13F5623A787

@Hailinel: Bull Fucking Shit. The reason they don't talk about it is because what the fuck is there to say? Everyone has apologized. People have admitted fault. The FGC has expressed a sentiment to get something done about it. Who the fuck is Patrick contacting anyways? How can anyone, except Aris, explain what Aris meant?

SRKs first article was more of a "c'mon guys" light touch approach at guiding the few misguided on the correct course. He was attempting to show what the FGC truly was about. And what the FGC does when people aren't focused on this one asshole. Just because my dad didn't hit me when I stole $20 DOES NOT mean that he wasnt disappointed in me. He took me close and explained that he loved me and that this couldn't happen again because that wasn't who I was. When Marn and a few others started making light of it, he put his foot down and made it no longer lovey dovey. He was taking it seriously from the start. Why else would he write an article if he wasn't serious about it?

If you actually followed the FGC closely. You would understand that Marn, Aris, JaHa are just assholes. You wouldn't be surprised.

@Fozimuth: He would prefer to be identified as a female. But technically he still has a penis. The juicebox comment was a joke........

@Sooty: Seriously you are 100 percent fucking correct. What else is there to say about it? The guy is an asshole. He apologized. Capcom apologized. The FGC is just going to be further ostracized because people only focus on this one negative. That doesnt make for a great or riveting interview.

Out of the hundreds of thousands of people in the FGC, giantbomb focuses on this one guy who was incredibly awkward towards a member of their team. Lets not focus on how open and embracing the entire community was to Kayo Police (a transgender Japanese girl), Broly Legs (A physically handicapped man who plays with his face) nor Ricky Ortiz (An openly gay cross dresser). There are various other special people in the FGC who are gay or cross dress and yet there is no report on how open the community is to them. And lets not forget how kind everyone is to Juicebox, a man with autism. OH! And I almost forgot. When a prominent FGC commentator's house burned down, the FGC raised money to repair his house.

Maybe if Patrick, instead of focusing on this one weeks event, focused on all of this weeks events in the FGC. We had this sexism scandal, a match rigging scandal and cross assault?

I FOUND OUT TODAY THAT I HAVE A STAPH INFECTION IN MY FACE, I VERY WELL COULD DIE IN MY SLEEP.

LET ME ATLEAST GO OUT WITH THE SWEET WHISPERS OF VINNY'S BAD PUNS AND RYAN'S INFECTIOUS LAUGH. (NOT STAPH INFECTIOUS, THATS SERIOUS BUSINESS)

THANKS FOR ALL THE MEMORIES GIANTBOMB, DONT LET ME DOWN IN MY TIME OF NEED.

You dont seem to have a lot of focus in your question. Are you questioning the exsistance of tiers? or are you questioning the complexity of fighting games? Tiers exsist for a very very specific reason. To rate a character on how well they stand up to the rest of the cast. Tiers lists make it apparent what are bad matchups and what are good matchups.

Look at it like this. Since you are so focused on SC2. What if the protoss went up against this imaginary race, lets call the imaginary race "X". X has the ability to shoot out units and get them to your base in about under 2 minutes, maybe a little more, maybe a little less. Generally speaking, that would be a terrible matchup for the protoss. They need a little more time then that. But X has very little options outside of their initial rush. Their units are weak and on the whole they are not good outside that 5 minute rush period. The only way protoss would win was by

A: reading the opponent and setting up a appropriate defense.

B: getting lucky and holding them off past the initial 5 minutes

C: X's folly costs them the match.

This matchup is heavily weighted in X's favor. But it wouldnt be the case against the Terran or the Zerg. More then likely they could repel the initial rush. Since X would only have 1 favorable matchup out of the three, X would be considered low tier.

My point here is that SF, and most fighting games for that matter, are full of polar characters. They take only a few words to describe what they do. They fill their niche incredibly well. While in SC the races are viable in most situations, depending on how you handle them . In SF Zangief has trouble with projectiles. He downright sucks when hes faced with a character that can use projectiles well. No amount of tweaking or rebalancing should change that. Its part of his design. Thats the reason he has sucked so much pre SF4. SF was and has been heavily focused on fireballs and zoning. Hence Zangief has been considered low tier throughout the series. SF4 introduced the FA which allowed him to become much more viable, among other changes that I wont go into.

ONE TIME I I CAN TYPE WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE KEYBOARD IF I MKAE ANY MISTAKES ITS NOT MY FAULT ITS BECAUSE YOU PEOPLE ARE FAR TOO YOUNF TO UNDERSTAND MY AWESOMENESS WHICH IS DIRECTLY ATTRIBUTED TO MY AGE WHICH IS OLDER THEN YOU

@Teran: My point exactly. You refuse to recognize the other persons opinion. You dismiss them as ignorant. Its name calling, and it shows how you prove your points.

LOL you argue that gravity does not keep things down. Nit picking. My point exactly!

Wow. You completely missed my point with the radiation point.

What does Obama have anything to do with this? You assume I am for Obama, you are mistaken.

You dismiss human life as if it is a number game. You go risk your life and then you can dismiss it. But before then, recognize that these innocents that you dismiss as mere figures are real people. People that did not choose to risk their lives. It's immoral to risk those peoples lives.

Only idiots post sources? So every news outlet is run by idiots? More name calling, real classy. OJ was investigated, but he wasnt punished. Troy Davis was investigated but he was executed. Investigations are not these infallible things. They are quite flawed. Especially when Blackwater has ties to the government.

You have no idea what the consequences of Blackwater being removed. Don't act like you do. I do not. But I would rather a company that has blood on its hands in the name of profit not exist then exist. And fucking stop calling me ignorant, it is a moral issue. just because you dismiss it as not does not make it so. This has to deal with profiteering off of war and who is responsible of the death of the innocents in 2007, so that is a moral issue. What is it? A financial issue?

@SuperWristBands: I HAD 99 HUMANITY THROUGH THE MAJORITY OF THE LATER GAME. IT DOESNT DO SHIT, AT A CERTAIN POINT THE GAME IS ALL LIKE "FOOL YOU BE CHEATING", AND IT DOESNT GIVE ANY GOOD DEF STATS. THERE AINT NO SECRET COVENANT. IT IS TOTALLY A SHENG LONG THING. TRUST ME. I KNOW. IM FROM THE INTERNET.

MAYBE THE PYGMY WAS ACTUALLY JUST FORGOTTEN, AND THAT WAS THE POINT. OR MAYBE YOU ARE THE PYGMY AND ALL THE BOSSES WERE NORMAL SIZED, AND THE BIG BOOB LADY WAS NORMAL SIZE. MAYBE THE FINAL BOSS WAS THE PYGMY. ITS POSSIBLE. MAYBE THIS WAS JUST LITERALLY A THROW LOGIC OUT AND LETS MAKE A GAME. THE STORY WAS BATSHIT INSANE FROM WHAT I GOT, AND I DIDNT WATCH THE INTRO VIDEO BECAUSE I WAS ALL LIKE BORED N SHIT.

I ALSO THOUGHT THAT THE FOUR KINGS WERE THE HEROES AND I WHOOPED THEIR ASS LIKE BATMAN.

I SERIOUSLY THINK THAT THE PYGMY WAS JUST FORGOTTEN, LIKE THE INTRO MOVIE SAID.

ON A SIDE NOTE I JUST DANCED WITH MY COUSIN WHO IS 20 YEARS OLDER THEN ME AND SHE GOT TOTALLY TOO CLOSE BECAUSE SHE WAS DRUNK AND I THINK I TOUCHED HER BOOB BECAUSE SHE MOANED. THATS JUST A THEORY THO.

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME HAVE A WONDERFUL EVENING.