maginnovision

I had never hard about the scaling issues, I beat it at about 80 on ng++ first time and it really didn't seem that bad. I may have been overlevelled a bit. Regardless I think you should get dlc and play through it, it's pretty good.

@ezekiel: Public and private domain are legal issues. As we've seen nobody cares if a conversation is public or private, just that it happens. It's why I was asking though to see if it's what happens or the scale of it. If some developer or publisher wanted to take 100%(or any really, you're in or you're out) I think they'd be better off being forced to ban all videos, or have to effectively whitelist videos manually.

@bladeofcreation: I think that is basically it, they want an official(public) retraction and/or correction. Since no new report has been released and they haven't amended the old report law enforcement are likely to follow the latest published data.

@ezekiel: If you don't mean legally then how do you feel about a friend playing a game while you're watching next to them? Is this the same moral argument or is it different? If so, why?

How many developers do you think would press the button to disable this mode of introducing people to their games if they could(assume it's some sort of infallible witchcraft)?

@mike: I've already read about it, I've seen documentaries. I haven't argued that gangs dont exist. If anything new has happened maybe I'm not up to date but from what I know juggalos and gangs affiliated with the psychopathic groups are mostly tangentially related. So the real issue, as it has always been, is not whether gangs associate themselves with psychopathic groups but whether the hardcore fans who call themselves juggalos are a gang. There are no hard numbers I know of so it's impossible to say but my gut tells me it's an insignificant number of gang members who call themselves juggalos compared to fans who do.

If you know of any data that says otherwise I'm open to looking at it. Also, since this is fairly off topic at this point and I'm about to hit another busy part of my week, I'd say just pm me if you care to continue.

@ezekiel: It's not a form of piracy when explicit permission is given. It's also not if they don't. Unless you're saying it'd be piracy to watch a friend play through a game too? I still wouldn't agree but legally you'd have to do active work to prevent it and explicitly state it's not ok unless you want years of lawsuits over a few dollars.

@mike: No, it's likely other misguided folks labelling them. If you look hard enough you can find groups of people identifying with a musical group that would match the definition for any musical group with a following. How many of these labels popped up after the 2011 report. I know people have been hysterical over ICP for a long time over the lyrics so I don't doubt some were before. I do however doubt the statistical accuracy of labelling their fans a gang.

@mike: I don't have sources available right now but from what I remember the FBI specifically noted there was no apparent centralized command and crimes were typically individuals motivated individually. The "Juggalos" aren't very gang like, considering they're just fans of a group. They're not even politically aligned.

@bladeofcreation: Since the FBI hasn't published a new ngta, no. But the cases continue to be dismissed because the FBI claims they've removed them. They also unpublished the 2011 report which is when it was first listed.

0%. If the YouTuber didn't pay for the game then whatever % is fine. Almost every publisher and game creator specifically say go ahead and play it online. If they don't they can have it taken down but pushing aside the "ad" argument that's really bad publicity. If your narrative driven game is actually a bad game you should have known that already and either had the typical too much garbage to find to entice viewers to play it or a better story with interesting branches.