phoenixlol

I've been playing Factorio obsessively for a few days. Is it a new year?

Just started a new job after leaving the military. Hadn't played many games the past 4 years but would get back into it later that year with Left 4 Dead and Fallout 3. I distinctly remember watching Breaking Bad, Scrubs, and How I Met Your Mother over that winter.

Been looking forward to another Ori game for a while. Hopefully they think of some cool new mechanics and art. I picked up Hollow Knight this round of sales hoping to scratch the Ori itch.

@captain_insano: They said they won't do a TPP playthrough til quite a while after the game comes out, if they do do it.

@hassun: Thanks for elaborating, I understand your point now and don't disagree that some poor storytelling is involved; but seeing Superman do cool things is still cool, just not in the context of the comic you posted (where an antagonist is overwhelmingly overpowered by a protagonist, which I don't think was a problem in MGS4. Raiden did the things he did at great expense to his body).

@kasaioni: That is a very good point. There are many nuances to how the nanos affected different people in 4, just as the context of the metal gear story as a whole affected different characters in different ways. I'm not claiming it's a good thing, just saying that it is a thing and the craziness is not likely to subside.

@hassun

"Explaining things away with "it's Metal Gear!" is completely meaningless."

-I don't feel like it's meaningless in the context of this discussion, it IS Metal Gear we're talking about after all, and Metal Gear is full of nonsense.

"Whether he does it in a cutscene or not, it's still Snake. And the player controls Snake. As for saying nobody should be more heroic than the protagonist: That is not what I am saying at all."

-Then what are you saying? With this statement you're just being a random internet commenter saying "nuh uh!" without backing up or elaborating on your point.

"I think there is absolutely nothing badass about Raiden. And that's perfectly OK."

@hassun: You made a few points:

1. "It's as if someone at Kojima Productions went "Well people sure disliked this character, what can we do to make him seem badass? Oh I know, let's ask an 11-year-old boy!""

I mean, welcome to Metal Gear.

2. "He's like an actor going off-script and chewing the scenery as much as he can before being escorted off the stage by security."

Hi, Hassun! It's your old friend, Metal Gear!

3. "And the biggest mistake of all? They did it at the cost of making everyone else (and especially the player/Snake) look bad by comparison."

Snake does a lot of awesome shit in cutscenes that the "player (you)" don't actually do as well. It's hard for me to wrap my head around this point; are you saying that no one should be more heroic than the protagonist of a story? If so, I simply disagree.

I disliked the portrayal of Raiden in MGS4 as well, but because I feel like his motivations were conveyed in a convoluted way that made him hard to make sense of. It very much felt like the Kojima cobbled Raiden's story together along the way of making the game as opposed to knowing the destination from the beginning... it's not an uncommon feeling I get with MG games, but it seems most apparent with Raiden in MGS4.

I guess what I'm trying to say is I disagree with the particular reasons you were put off by Raiden's character in MGS4, but there is some poor storytelling going on there. All that aside, Raiden is pretty fucking badass.

Ya'll crazy. MGS 2 is best MGS. It's close between 2 and 3 for me, but I had more fun with 2. The music, the story, the and the gameplay were all great (though the gameplay was better in 3). 2 took everything I loved about 1, turned it up to 11 and made it play/look better.

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