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@farnham said:

. If there was some new stuff announced on a japanese famitsu magazine you could be sure that it would get posted much earlier than any other website. If there was an industry rumor for a north american dev it would most likely get posted on neogaf. a leaked video of an anticipated game.. probably up on neogaf pretty fast in comparison to anywhere else.

Well that just means that websites just have to put in actual effort into covering videogames now instead of copying-pasta whatever shows up on NeoGAF. They used to cover games a-la-minute on GameSpot and GiantBomb. GameSpot even ran Rumour Control which was a great source of industry information for a very long time. GiantBomb used to do E3 coverage on the floor instead of overly long panels with several developers at once. I understand that opening up a thread is much quicker than posting an entire article, but I feel like games coverage has moved away too fast from hands-on articles to NeoGAF threads.

So I hope games coverage and game news goes back into actual VG-journalist hands instead of it being an afterthought. That's one positive thing about NeoGAF shutting down I guess.

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@belgurdo said:
@psykodoughboy said:

Take the gb forum to the next lvl gaf dudes

In terms of fast news delivery and not, uh, anything else they're associated with, right?

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@htr10: Oh. Just would like to hear from some people that work for the industry. So far, I can't find a thing. It is the weekend and it just happened, so maybe I'm jumping the gun.

Jason Schreier from Kotaku is going to write a big article on it. Supposedly there are more fucked up things going on about Evilore and the moderation team than we were aware of. That's why it is taking some time.

Patrick Klepek is also doing an article on it, though he is running a little late on the whole thing since he has only heard about it today. Keep an eye out for his article on Waypoint.

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Wait Amirox was.. what..? All I remember is they used to be a mod and then when I've been there recently they seemed to no longer be a mod, but were still posting? Unless I'm getting them mixed up with someone else.

Amirox was demodded for embezzlement of crowd-sourced funds donated by members. He started a GoFundMe page to finance his drug addiction under the guise of having a sick mother and needing to pay medical debts. Being a moderator at a powerful place, he got a lot of money and a $1000 from Evilore personally. When the scandal was revealed, Evilore chose to not ban Amir0x but only to demod him because he vowed to go into rehab.

So here's a real fucked up story. Evilore bought/financed a PSP for a member called Olimario who was selling nude photos of his girlfriend. Olimario got the money and Evilore proceeded to then share the nude photos among the entire moderation team. Supposedly Amir0x then sent pictures of the nude photos back to Olimario, a picture of him having ejaculated on the nude photos.

Then sometime this year, Amir0x was caught for having possesion of child pornography and was improsoned. Evilore put out a statement that they did not even know his full name the whole time Amir0x was a mod, that he had not been active a long time. Basically everything to downplay that they had a peadophile doing the moderation for years. However that was a lie as well since a lot of members dug up posts in which Evilore and Amir0x were close friends and had met in real life.

There were also other moderators that had done questionable and henious things but the recurring theme is that every post, topic or thread about the wrongdoings of mods were instantly met with bans, deletion of entire post histories and a elaborate executive command to ban anything relating to the mods or Evilore. A long-term cover up. That's why a lot of members are learning of this shit just today, they did a very good job of covering up...untill they found out they could not control Twitter.

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@winterblink said:
@shadow961 said:

@quantris: Former mods and the active GAF discord have already been discussing their options. Just give it a week of two. Those guys don't want to lose what GAF was. Most of it users don't either. One guy that needs to be erased from all consciousness isn't going to break GAF.

It would suck to lose the community that's been built up for years. People think it's a cesspool there like it's 4chan's /b board with a different URL or something, and that shows a complete lack of understanding. Burning down the site would be like demolishing a suburb because someone that lived there was found out to guilty of sexual harassment/assault.

He wasn't someone that just happened to live there. Since 2003 Evilore shaped the website and forum to his vision. All those weird things that happened to/with the moderators (and probably more unsung ones) are directly the result of Evilore putting those moderators in charge. Something radical has to chance for its community for that to work. I don't like nuking an entire website because the owner turns out to be a repeat sexual harrasser but the only way to get rid of the perpetual stained image of NeoGAF, is to nuke his legacy by nuking the entire forum.

NeoGAF isn't just a forum, it was also a way for industry insiders to hang out the dirty laundry like glassdoor does. Industry professionals have internal memos to avoid NeoGAF like the plague and this finally seals the deal.

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@chilibean_3 said:

They're going to repackage the assets into something they can pack full of paid loot boxes.

I'm usually the first to rail against this kinda "ciclejerk" like talk regarding lootboxes but thats sure as hell what that statement sounded like.

It's going to be a 100-man Battle Royale with Loot Boxes and the rest of the already created content is going to be a scrappy single player tutorial.

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@thephantompear said:
@wolfstein_3d said:

Am I the only one who thinks that incidents like the NeoGAF or Naugthy Dog one are supposed to be directed to the police and criminal prosecution first and foremost.

Don't get me wrong crime victims deserve all the support they can get but I can't see a scenario where raising allegations via the net is the right move.

A lot of the time, women are afraid to go to the police because of these powerful, rich men. They're not sure what the police can do about it and the police would need proof in the form of video evidence or testimonies. In this case, a bathroom does not have a security cameras for obvious reasons and both the accuser and accusee were alone. So they try to garner awareness first before going to the police. Or even on a more basic level, sympathy. You try to rile up an internet crowd in case of something happens to you.

Women getting harrased or having unwanted sexual attention has become the norm since a lot of women deal with powerful men. It is easier to keep quiet instead of risking your relationship with your boyfriend, risking your job on the workplace and so on.

No of this excuses you throwing actual rape-allegations at Malka. You're grossly overstepping the line here with your Anti-GAF-crusade.

I said possibly, who knows what kind of other stuff he has pulled during his Euro-tour. If I'm grossly overstepping boundries, that's for a mod here to decide.
As I said before, most members of NeoGAF are decent people. However even decent people can behave toxic when thrusted into a mob mentality. That's all.
My beef is with the moderation team of NeoGAF, not its members. I was a longtime lurker and saw how decent people got banned. I got banned as well but I went there and made an account knowing I would get banned someday, because I'm very opinionated. My own banning is not my main problem because it was an offhand remark about Carmacks megatextures. Wasn't some heated discussion or whatever.

I hereby welcome NeoGAF members to a board in which there is no constant fear of getting banned. As the old adage goes; Don't be a dick and you'll be fine.

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Am I the only one who thinks that incidents like the NeoGAF or Naugthy Dog one are supposed to be directed to the police and criminal prosecution first and foremost.

Don't get me wrong crime victims deserve all the support they can get but I can't see a scenario where raising allegations via the net is the right move.

A lot of the time, women are afraid to go to the police because of these powerful, rich men. They're not sure what the police can do about it and the police would need proof in the form of video evidence or testimonies. In this case, a bathroom does not have a security cameras for obvious reasons and both the accuser and accusee were alone. So they try to garner awareness first before going to the police. Or even on a more basic level, sympathy. You try to rile up an internet crowd in case of something happens to you.

Women getting harrased or having unwanted sexual attention has become the norm since a lot of women deal with powerful men. It is easier to keep quiet instead of risking your relationship with your boyfriend, risking your job on the workplace and so on.