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Why the New Dante is Just Fine


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwIFRl1Fo-U

Watch that first if you haven't seen it. Otherwise what follows will make no sense.





When the new Devil May Cry game was announced at the 2010 Tokyo Game Show, the new Dante was also revealed, and of course, the internet user backlash was quick and full of hate. I was pretty put out by the idea of a reboot instead of a direct sequel, but after watching the trailer a few more times, I got excited, and when I saw the comments of pure hate, I decided to come up with some reasons to give it a chance.



 
 
1. The Tone Works
If you look at all the Devil May Cry games --accept for 2 because that one didn’t match up and is discounted by more than a few fans—the tone is that of Dante being a tough, trash talking, quick witted and all around badass character. The creators instilled those characteristics throughout each game. Even in 2 where Dante was almost lifeless, the player still knew that he was tough because he could slice through enemies with ease (maybe a little too much ease, but still). 
 
The new Dante looks to be absolutely no different. Regardless of whether you think Dante should be smoking or not, he still looks like he kicks as much demon butt as ever and he’s still doing it with style. Look at the trailer again; whenever Dante starts fighting he burns one demon he has in a headlock with a cigarette, then rushes head first into a group of these monsters and uses his pistols at close range. That sounds like the Dante that everyone knows and loves right? In other words, this Dante isn’t emo; this Dante isn’t a Twilight character because those two things are defined by your actions not your haircut, and his actions seem pretty brutal here.




If this is emo: 




 Then so is this by definition:




The new music works as well. Now, this is obviously a matter of preference. The music in the first 4 games fit well with the gothic setting, but not with Dante’s attitude. “Taste the blood; taste your fate; swallow your pride with your hate.”  This does not personify Dante’s Devil may care attitude in the least. The old music was too brooding; it worked, but only just and sort of became a joke by the 4 game. Now the new music seems to go along perfectly with Dante’s attitude and the setting. It’s fast paced; it’s hard; and it’s cool.




2. This Fits Perfectly With References to Dante’s Past
Dante never goes into detail about his past. No one does. There’s a vague reference in the 3 game about he and Vergil meeting a year before the events of that game, but that’s it. In the 3 game, it is implied heavily implied that Dante is reluctant of the demon powers he has inherited from his father, Sparda and that Vergil wants as much as he can have. With that in mind, it makes sense that Dante would be an extremely troubled teen. At this point in his life we have no idea if his mother has been killed or if Vergil has turned (for lack of a better phrase) to the dark side. If these two things have happened, it seems pretty clear that Dante would be angry and rebellious. His parents are MIA and his brother is evil. This fits into a possible explanation for his white patch: he wants to reject the demon side of himself and dyes his hair to cover it up (that’s an early assumption, so it’s probably incorrect). Also, people seem upset that he’s a smoker in this depiction, and no matter how he felt about smoking once he was an adult, as a teen, he probably cares a lot less about his body (as most teens do). Besides smoking, how does he take all this aggression he has out? By killing demons of course! He’s not bottling it all up like an “emo” kid would do; he’s doing what Dante does, and that means killing a lot of demons with style. Now, once he got most of this aggression out of his system he could easily turn into the more sarcastic and smart mouthed demon hunter of DMC 3. All-in-all this fits Dante’s persona much better than most people seem to think it does.


This DOES make sense:




3. Everything is Still in Place
What does every DMC fan remember about the iconic and amazing DMC series? White hair, Ebony and Ivory, big swords (named Rebellion, Force Edge, Red Queen, and Yamato), plenty of creepy demons to kill, and an awesome front man that’s what. And guess what? They’re all still here. 


The white hair is hard to spot, but it’s in this picture and every subsequent screenshot (I promise):



 (See it's on top of his head, I'm not making it up)




The twin pistols:

(They're Even Black and White Here)




The Big Sword and a decent shot of the new creepy demons:

(Well here it;s a scythe, but I mention the weapon changing a little later.)




And the tough character:

 (Yeah, I know this is polarizing)


In other words, this is still your Devil May Cry; it’s just been given a visual overhaul and not even a huge one. The refinements are just to make Dante look younger; that’s all. 


4. Combat Looks Promising
Take a look at some of the action from the trailer; ignore the look of Dante; just focus on the action.
Dante is shooting demons at close range; this isn’t new to the series which should make the naysayers happy. Something that is new is the melee system. Dante’s new “sword” is changing from pole arm, to sword, to a some kind of chain weapon watch at 1:22; see how it looks like a sword and then changes to be the chain weapon? This would make sense as Ninja Theory’s Heavenly Sword employed this kind of system. Also, he’s using these different forms of the weapon to tear up the environment pretty hard. This is exciting. It could make the action even more brutal than it’s ever been. 


Speaking of Heavenly Sword, Ninja Theory can do action quite adequately. The overlooked and under appreciated (by gamers) debut title from Ninja Theory shows how capable the team is at making action very fun and engaging. With multiple combo options and different types of weapon variations for each type of enemy that comes, they really made something special, especially considering that it was their first title (as Ninja Theory). We’ll have to see how Enslaved: Odyssey to the West shapes up, but they have my confidence.



 (So I hear this was a pretty good debut)


5. It’s Really Way too Early to Tell
Despite all these reasons I’ve come up with here (and the various hate comments that have popped up), the fact is that it’s just too early. All of this hate and hope are based on a trailer for a game that is more than likely in extremely early stages of development. There’s not one frame of gameplay here; the trailer is less than two minutes long; and it’s all just speculation at this point. The whole thing is just that people are very attached to this series. Anything that Ninja Theory and Capcom could have put out at this point (or any for that matter) would be met with criticism and hate, but it’s just too early to know if this game will be good, and isn’t that the whole point?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwIFRl1Fo-U

Watch that first if you haven't seen it. Otherwise what follows will make no sense.





When the new Devil May Cry game was announced at the 2010 Tokyo Game Show, the new Dante was also revealed, and of course, the internet user backlash was quick and full of hate. I was pretty put out by the idea of a reboot instead of a direct sequel, but after watching the trailer a few more times, I got excited, and when I saw the comments of pure hate, I decided to come up with some reasons to give it a chance.



 
 
1. The Tone Works
If you look at all the Devil May Cry games --accept for 2 because that one didn’t match up and is discounted by more than a few fans—the tone is that of Dante being a tough, trash talking, quick witted and all around badass character. The creators instilled those characteristics throughout each game. Even in 2 where Dante was almost lifeless, the player still knew that he was tough because he could slice through enemies with ease (maybe a little too much ease, but still). 
 
The new Dante looks to be absolutely no different. Regardless of whether you think Dante should be smoking or not, he still looks like he kicks as much demon butt as ever and he’s still doing it with style. Look at the trailer again; whenever Dante starts fighting he burns one demon he has in a headlock with a cigarette, then rushes head first into a group of these monsters and uses his pistols at close range. That sounds like the Dante that everyone knows and loves right? In other words, this Dante isn’t emo; this Dante isn’t a Twilight character because those two things are defined by your actions not your haircut, and his actions seem pretty brutal here.




If this is emo: 




 Then so is this by definition:




The new music works as well. Now, this is obviously a matter of preference. The music in the first 4 games fit well with the gothic setting, but not with Dante’s attitude. “Taste the blood; taste your fate; swallow your pride with your hate.”  This does not personify Dante’s Devil may care attitude in the least. The old music was too brooding; it worked, but only just and sort of became a joke by the 4 game. Now the new music seems to go along perfectly with Dante’s attitude and the setting. It’s fast paced; it’s hard; and it’s cool.




2. This Fits Perfectly With References to Dante’s Past
Dante never goes into detail about his past. No one does. There’s a vague reference in the 3 game about he and Vergil meeting a year before the events of that game, but that’s it. In the 3 game, it is implied heavily implied that Dante is reluctant of the demon powers he has inherited from his father, Sparda and that Vergil wants as much as he can have. With that in mind, it makes sense that Dante would be an extremely troubled teen. At this point in his life we have no idea if his mother has been killed or if Vergil has turned (for lack of a better phrase) to the dark side. If these two things have happened, it seems pretty clear that Dante would be angry and rebellious. His parents are MIA and his brother is evil. This fits into a possible explanation for his white patch: he wants to reject the demon side of himself and dyes his hair to cover it up (that’s an early assumption, so it’s probably incorrect). Also, people seem upset that he’s a smoker in this depiction, and no matter how he felt about smoking once he was an adult, as a teen, he probably cares a lot less about his body (as most teens do). Besides smoking, how does he take all this aggression he has out? By killing demons of course! He’s not bottling it all up like an “emo” kid would do; he’s doing what Dante does, and that means killing a lot of demons with style. Now, once he got most of this aggression out of his system he could easily turn into the more sarcastic and smart mouthed demon hunter of DMC 3. All-in-all this fits Dante’s persona much better than most people seem to think it does.


This DOES make sense:




3. Everything is Still in Place
What does every DMC fan remember about the iconic and amazing DMC series? White hair, Ebony and Ivory, big swords (named Rebellion, Force Edge, Red Queen, and Yamato), plenty of creepy demons to kill, and an awesome front man that’s what. And guess what? They’re all still here. 


The white hair is hard to spot, but it’s in this picture and every subsequent screenshot (I promise):



 (See it's on top of his head, I'm not making it up)




The twin pistols:

(They're Even Black and White Here)




The Big Sword and a decent shot of the new creepy demons:

(Well here it;s a scythe, but I mention the weapon changing a little later.)




And the tough character:

 (Yeah, I know this is polarizing)


In other words, this is still your Devil May Cry; it’s just been given a visual overhaul and not even a huge one. The refinements are just to make Dante look younger; that’s all. 


4. Combat Looks Promising
Take a look at some of the action from the trailer; ignore the look of Dante; just focus on the action.
Dante is shooting demons at close range; this isn’t new to the series which should make the naysayers happy. Something that is new is the melee system. Dante’s new “sword” is changing from pole arm, to sword, to a some kind of chain weapon watch at 1:22; see how it looks like a sword and then changes to be the chain weapon? This would make sense as Ninja Theory’s Heavenly Sword employed this kind of system. Also, he’s using these different forms of the weapon to tear up the environment pretty hard. This is exciting. It could make the action even more brutal than it’s ever been. 


Speaking of Heavenly Sword, Ninja Theory can do action quite adequately. The overlooked and under appreciated (by gamers) debut title from Ninja Theory shows how capable the team is at making action very fun and engaging. With multiple combo options and different types of weapon variations for each type of enemy that comes, they really made something special, especially considering that it was their first title (as Ninja Theory). We’ll have to see how Enslaved: Odyssey to the West shapes up, but they have my confidence.



 (So I hear this was a pretty good debut)


5. It’s Really Way too Early to Tell
Despite all these reasons I’ve come up with here (and the various hate comments that have popped up), the fact is that it’s just too early. All of this hate and hope are based on a trailer for a game that is more than likely in extremely early stages of development. There’s not one frame of gameplay here; the trailer is less than two minutes long; and it’s all just speculation at this point. The whole thing is just that people are very attached to this series. Anything that Ninja Theory and Capcom could have put out at this point (or any for that matter) would be met with criticism and hate, but it’s just too early to know if this game will be good, and isn’t that the whole point?
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He still looks like Hilary Swank, sorry.

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You posted the very reason the new Dante isn't fine: 
@ultimatepunchrod said:

"

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And that's a still. In motion, he's even worse. It's like they went out of their way to make him move in as gay a fashion as possible. 
 
Also, Ninja Theory are fucking incompetent. The Enslaved demo is just embarrassing.
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I'm going to let you ppl in on a little secret. Did you know the president of ninja theory looks similar to this character. What he did was he pasted his head on there and called it dante. It's an outrage, this sort of shit won't stand if everyone knew.  
 
I mean if being a mediocre developer wasn't enough, probally destroying gameplay, he has the nerve to place his head on dante. That's totally bullshit, considering their hairstyle is even the same.

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sadly the only two DMC games i played are the worse games on the series (DMC 2 & 4) so a reboot is fine by me

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He looks kind of bad ass. I am looking forward to this game though.

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@Icemael: Yep, that's "gay" but old Dante's half opened trench coat exposing his abs is TOTALLY straight.
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This is the picture HitmanAgent47 was talking about

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@Icemael:  I don't think anyone  with a Soma Cruz avatar has the right to diss a character for being "gay" looking.
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Well, maybe young Dante was emo?

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@InfamousBIG said:

" He still looks like Hilary Swank, sorry. "

This.
 
I'll still buy it if it has tight combat and over the top boss fights though.
 
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@Lemoncookie01said:

" This is the picture HitmanAgent47 was talking about "

Rofl. 
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@Lemoncookie01:  Wow, is that for real? That's a really good likeness.
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@Milkman: Devil May Cry 3's Dante was easily the worst version of the character, both visually and personality-wise (with the possible exception of 2's -- I stopped playing after the first boss, so I wouldn't know).

Well, I guess I should say "was the worst version of the character" now that the series is getting raped in the butt a second time. 
 
@Nexas said:
" @Icemael: I don't think anyone  with a Soma Cruz avatar has the right to diss a character for being "gay" looking. "
There's a big difference between an androgynous metrosexual and an annoying teenage punk rocker "I'm too cool for school" douchebag who moves like a ballet-dancer wannabe.
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@Lemoncookie01 said:
" This is the picture HitmanAgent47 was talking about
"
Vanity. Gotta love it. 
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@Lemoncookie01 said:
"This is the picture HitmanAgent47 was talking about
"

Yeah, i'm totally offending he can take a perfectly designed character and totally put his own stamp on it. He's not even competent enough for vanity.  
  
Also, I mean poor guy, he's probally crying himself to sleep seeing how ninja theory, who can only make a less than 80% game on gamerankings take over and butcher his series with mediocrity. That's what you get trying to appeal to a western audience by outsourcing your game to an mediocre developer. I haven't seen anything this destroyed since silent hill homecomming.

In a series of tweets where fans ask him his thoughts on the new younger Dante, he responds the following:
“I miss him, too… RT @nss_13_ @PG_kamiya I miss the Dante you made,” read the first tweet.
“I’ve been sad since Dante left me. RT @nss_13_ @PG_kamiya It’s sad to see what you started turn this way,” read another.
The last tweet read: “Whatever. RT @Solivagant @PG_kamiya #DmC, by Ninja Theory? Do you think they will “evolve” the action game from your Bayonetta standard?”
I guess we’ll see how it all turns out in 2011.

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@Icemael i really liked the DMC 3 version of Dante. i think the best looking one in terms of style and costume (ironically) was 2. even the devil trigger in 2 was really cool looking. The first game's dante looked cool when i first played it, but upon re-visitation (and unlocking the original costume in 3) i just couldnt get over how short the dang trench coat was. it didnt quite look right. i like all the character models though and i think if too many people complain about this and it turns into an Infamous 2 situation then we will kind of rob ourselves of what this new version could hold. 
 
and in general i really dont understand all the hate for Ninja Theory. Enslaved looks awesome and Heavenly Sword was a great game. it was a bit short, but it was extremely good.
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@ultimatepunchrod: I find that statement absolutely absurd. Sure it might appeal to playstation fanboys and the character designs was decent. It's not only too short, it's just too mediocre. At least devil may cry 4 had a higher score at 84%, why let someone else more incompetent make your game? It's going to be a disaster on the level of prototype because it's probally going to be similar.
 
Gamerankings:  80.65%

 

 

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@ultimatepunchrod said:
" and in general i really dont understand all the hate for Ninja Theory. Enslaved looks awesome and Heavenly Sword was a great game. it was a bit short, but it was extremely good. "
Have you played the demo? Poor framerate, jaggies everywhere, shitty camera (the combat camera is especially bad -- it makes Ninja Gaiden's seem like the most user-friendly in the world), overly long "platforming" sequences that consist of you press X a bunch of times, and a combat system that's shallow even by Western action game standards.
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This new Dante looks great, I do agree. That big sword he's using is still Rebellion, if you look close enough you'll see the design in that trailer. I also love the addition of him smoking. Not only does he smoke, he has a demonic... THING in a headlock, and puts out his cigarette on it's face. How awesome is that? 
 
I don't understand why people don't like change. It really baffles me. I mean it's not like they're changing DMC into an RTS - they're just giving it a fresh new look with a new character and a new development team. They will hopefully take the things they learned from their past development history with Heavenly Sword and Enslaved and further better themselves. 
 
Personally, I would have loved a new DMC that focuses more on Nero and where he fits into Sparta's bloodline. But this one looks awesome as hell, and I love how the setting of the trailer was in a somewhat modern, grungy, almost dystopian city. 
 
I really don't get the whole "He's gay" thing though. He is the exact opposite of gay looking, I think you're getting it mixed up. This is gay looking:

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Does that look anything like how this new Dante acts? He's ripping demons apart, throwing cars at them, shooting them to bits. If you want something to bitch about at least find something legit.
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@Nexas: lol did you accidentally "reply" to me first?  Cause I got that in my inbox. 
 
I was all like, "Who the fuck is Soma Cruz?  And how does he resemble De Niro so closely?"
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@Lemoncookie01 said:
" This is the picture HitmanAgent47 was talking about
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Pic isn't loading for me; can someone upload it to their GB profile?
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@Icemael said:
" @Milkman: Devil May Cry 3's Dante was easily the worst version of the character, both visually and personality-wise (with the possible exception of 2's -- I stopped playing after the first boss, so I wouldn't know).

Well, I guess I should say "was the worst version of the character" now that the series is getting raped in the butt a second time. 
 
@Nexas said:
" @Icemael: I don't think anyone  with a Soma Cruz avatar has the right to diss a character for being "gay" looking. "
There's a big difference between an androgynous metrosexual and an annoying teenage punk rocker "I'm too cool for school" douchebag who moves like a ballet-dancer wannabe. "
Haha are you effing serious?? Yeah androgynous metrosexual is such a HUUUGE step up from teenage punk.
Do you even hear what you're saying right now? If they day comes i get this upset over a trailer for a game i'm gonna stop playing videogames altogether.
If you don't like the new Dante that's fine that's your right but to use androgynous metrosexual as a reason why old Dante was so much more badass is laughable.
Why don't you chill out an wait for the damn game before you start getting all butt hurt.
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@ajamafalous: Uploaded to mine
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@audiosnag said:
" If you don't like the new Dante that's fine that's your right but to use androgynous metrosexual as a reason why old Dante was so much more badass is laughable. "
Old Dante wasn't androgynous.
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@Lemoncookie01 said:

" This is the picture HitmanAgent47 was talking about

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Initially I would've just said take out the hair flap and lose the cigs and he should be fine
 
Now I just want that character design burned and buried...the nerve of that guy putting his hideous likeness on a well known character he knows nothing about
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" @ajamafalous: Uploaded to mine "
Thanks bro.
 
 
Also, lol at that picture. Makes me hate new Dante even more.
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@Icemael said:
" @audiosnag said:
" If you don't like the new Dante that's fine that's your right but to use androgynous metrosexual as a reason why old Dante was so much more badass is laughable. "
Old Dante wasn't androgynous. "
No he had long whispy white hair and an exposed chest.
Don't get me wrong i like old Dante but strictly looking at his character design he was your standard anime looking japanese character. He would have been just as at home in a Final Fantasy game. It was his attitude that sold him. This trailer shows a lot of ass kicking and i'm on board for that. The game could very well suck and that would be a shame but if it ends up being good and people ignore it cause of a haircut, that would be an even bigger shame.
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@audiosnag said:
" @Icemael said:
" @audiosnag said:
" If you don't like the new Dante that's fine that's your right but to use androgynous metrosexual as a reason why old Dante was so much more badass is laughable. "
Old Dante wasn't androgynous. "
No he had long whispy white hair and an exposed chest. Don't get me wrong i like old Dante but strictly looking at his character design he was your standard anime looking japanese character. He would have been just as at home in a Final Fantasy game. It was his attitude that sold him. This trailer shows a lot of ass kicking and i'm on board for that. The game could very well suck and that would be a shame but if it ends up being good and people ignore it cause of a haircut, that would be an even bigger shame. "
He only had an exposed chest in 3, and I couldn't stand that version of him (mostly due to the personality, but still).

And the reason I'm dismissing this game isn't Dante's new look, but the new developer.
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I've always like the DMC series. I'm not against the idea of the reboot, and I personally have no issue with the look of Dante. If they can rationalize it in that he's super young and inexperienced in this game then I'm fine with that. To me what matters it the gameplay, so this is another wait and see for me.

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@Lemoncookie01 said:
" This is the picture HitmanAgent47 was talking about
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I really wish you didn't post this. Now any hope of me liking this game has been extinguished. I'd be annoyed every single second of looking at his stupid face. DMC4 was already pretty weak - I think right now is the exact instant that I've lost interest in the series altogether.
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Wow, some gamers a really shallow it's kind of sad.

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What about his voice? Is Reuben Langdon still doing Dante's voice? Didn't really sound like him in the trailer. I really liked Langdon's voice as Dante.
 
I assume he's probably still gonna be doing the motion capture, though. 
 
Either way, I still think the new Dante looks dumb. I'm also confused if this game is simply a prequel or an actual reboot, 'cause I really don't understand why the DMC series would need a reboot.

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@ultimatepunchrod

 If you look at all the Devil May Cry games --accept for 2 because that one didn’t match up and is discounted by more than a few fans—the tone is that of Dante being a    

except??? 
 
Dante's new look is shitty. I don't care what excuses you come up with, he still looks like shit and no amount of writing will change anyone's mind.
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I'm just doing the smart thing Like I have since the trailer was released. Wait for gameplay.

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Not that I think he looks totally stupid, but I don't see how it makes sense for him to have a "younger look". He doesn't age does he? So how far back does this have to be to have him look so drastically different? It doesn't seem like in the trailer he fights in a much different atmosphere than the other DMC's. It doesn't make sense to me.
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You realize this just makes the redesign that much more awesome, right?
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There's a big difference between an androgynous metrosexual and an annoying teenage punk rocker "I'm too cool for school" douchebag who moves like a ballet-dancer wannabe. "
I'm so glad we cleared that up.
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All I get from the replies to this post is that it's only OK when Japanese-designed characters look gay.

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@ultimatepunchrod: I find that statement absolutely absurd. Sure it might appeal to playstation fanboys and the character designs was decent. It's not only too short, it's just too mediocre. At least devil may cry 4 had a higher score at 84%, why let someone else more incompetent make your game? It's going to be a disaster on the level of prototype because it's probally going to be similar.
 
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You do realize scores don't matter to anyone other than the companies themselves? Whatever scores they racked up in the past doesn't mean their future efforts will suck, nor is it a guarantee of quality either. This whole thread is entirely subjective. Some people like the new look, some people don't, others don't care and just want the same type of action as before. What we have so far is a bunch of moving images to fast paced ATR-esque music that reveals nothing about what the game will be like. The least anyone can do is wait for the game to come out BEFORE judging it. "
Hey! Someone with reason!
 
Just wait and see what they do. If it does indeed suck then fire away, however it could end up being awesome too. As long as I get to air juggle some demons then it's all good.
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@dudeglove said:
" @HitmanAgent47 said:
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@ultimatepunchrod: I find that statement absolutely absurd. Sure it might appeal to playstation fanboys and the character designs was decent. It's not only too short, it's just too mediocre. At least devil may cry 4 had a higher score at 84%, why let someone else more incompetent make your game? It's going to be a disaster on the level of prototype because it's probally going to be similar.
 
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You do realize scores don't matter to anyone other than the companies themselves? Whatever scores they racked up in the past doesn't mean their future efforts will suck, nor is it a guarantee of quality either. This whole thread is entirely subjective. Some people like the new look, some people don't, others don't care and just want the same type of action as before. What we have so far is a bunch of moving images to fast paced ATR-esque music that reveals nothing about what the game will be like. The least anyone can do is wait for the game to come out BEFORE judging it."

It's not subjective, it's statistics and ninja theory is a mediocre developer. I was just supporting my statement with facts. That's like saying haze developer's next game is going to get better, they are strike out artist, incapable of anything good. I mean playing heavenly sword, a medicore game that depends on cheezy gameplay mechanics.
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He looks like an heroin addict who turns tricks with old dudes. 
 
 
So par for a japanese character.

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@dudeglove: probally rent. I'll skip it if it's under 84% though, can't play every trash that comes out.
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@HitmanAgent47 said:
It's not subjective, it's statistics and ninja theory is a mediocre developer. I was just supporting my statement with facts. That's like saying haze developer's next game is going to get better, they are strike out artist, incapable of anything good. I mean playing heavenly sword, a medicore game that depends on cheezy gameplay mechanics. "
 
Maybe this will be Ninja Theory's 1st massive selling title.  Like Infinity Ward didn't really hit it BIG 'till MW1 came out. Same goes for Gearbox with Borderlands. (One thing is for sure, Enslaved will be this year's BG&E.)
 
Ooooor maybe this will be like DR2, where you can't even tell that it's being done by another dev. studio.
I think that is the approach Capcom is currently going, when they're outsourcing sequel development to western studios.
 
 
Oooor maybe secretly DMC was always meant for the current generation's Twilight crowd.
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@niamahai: silent hill homecomming was the same thing, they outsourced it because they wanted more of a western audience. Look how well it turned out.
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@HitmanAgent47 said:
" @niamahai: silent hill homecomming was the same thing, they outsourced it because they wanted more of a western audience. Look how well it turned out. "
maybe this time it would be different!
Think of the possibilities! Health regen!
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@HitmanAgent47 said:
" @dudeglove: probally rent. I'll skip it if it's under 84% though, can't play every trash that comes out. "
How did you choose 84% as your quality threshold?