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    Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4

    Game » consists of 5 releases. Released Jul 10, 2008

    Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 is a role-playing game developed and published by Atlus for the PlayStation 2. It is chronologically the fifth installment in the Shin Megami Tensei: Persona series. Like its predecessor, its gameplay combines a traditional role-playing game with elements of a social simulation. Its critical and commercial success spawned a sizable media empire, including several spinoff titles.

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    #1  Edited By the8bitNacho

    This first paragraph will likely push most of you away, which is fine.  Being a writer, I understand why people look down on fanfiction.  In some cases, it's lack of creativity and originality by the authors.  The primary reason, however, is that anyone can write fanfiction and dump it into a huge pile on the internet, making it hard to discern what's good an what isn't.

    Believe it or not, there are a few exceptional fanfic writers out there.  They do it because they enjoy it, and for no other reason.  Whereas to some of us, all of the work that goes into these things may seem like a waste of time, I think gamers as a collective understand all too well how easy it is perceive a hobby as such.  After all, we confront that same outside mindset every day from our parents, spouses, friends and even our enemies.

    That being said, I'd really like it if all of you checked out computer-geekz's Persona 4:  Simulacrum over at FanFiction.net.  The story is a continuation of Persona 4, taking place seven years after the end of the game.  It's written extremely well, and the story seems (almost) as if it could actually be a follow-up to its source material.

    Obviously, given the open ended nature of the social linking process, some compromises had to be made.  The main character--Souji--has a voice and a personality here.  His relationships with the Investigation Team are all pre-determined by the author, seeing as it'd be difficult to allow the reader to select through text.  This shouldn't be too much of a problem though, as everything is written from an unbiased and extremely believable point of view.

    Given Persona 4's relatively niche audience, this story isn't getting a lot of attention from the robust fanfiction crowd, so I'm just trying to throw some good will his way.  I've enjoyed the story, and I hope the mass of Giant Bomb's Persona fans will as well.

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    #2  Edited By Baillie

    I'm guessing it isn't finished yet?

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    #3  Edited By the8bitNacho
    @Baillie: No, it isn't finished yet.  I believe he's trying to update weekly, though the most recent update took 2 weeks.
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    #4  Edited By Baillie

    I've read the first 5 so, I'll carry on later, thanks for this.

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    #5  Edited By Nasar7

    Nice find, thanks for this. And you're right, Fanfiction is still looked down upon today as gaming was 20 years ago, and it's even more niche.

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    #6  Edited By keyhunter

    Boooo, fanfiction, boooooooo.

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    #7  Edited By ArbitraryWater

    You said Fan Fiction. That word is taboo. Also, there is a massive spoiler for the game within the first few paragraphs. That is all.

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    #8  Edited By iamjohn

    Ha ha!  Fanfiction.

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    #9  Edited By eirikr

    I loathe the name Souji Seta, but I can understand its necessity in a context like this. Still, I think it could have allowed more creativity to use a first-person narrative and have people not refer to him by anything specific, like in the game.

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    #10  Edited By Vect

    Read it before. Certainly better written than others I've read.

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    #11  Edited By the8bitNacho
    @ArbitraryWater said:
    " You said Fan Fiction. That word is taboo. Also, there is a massive spoiler for the game within the first few paragraphs. That is all. "
    Assuming people take the time to read the first post, they'd know straight off that a follow-up piece to the game itself will contain spoilers.  If they're too lazy to read the post, well quite honestly, I don't care if the game is spoiled for them.
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    #12  Edited By Baillie

    Search & Replace Souji Seta with Charlie Tunoku.

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    #13  Edited By Jedted

    This sounds interesting, i might check it out once the ER is over so i don't spoil the story.

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    #14  Edited By FluxWaveZ
    @Eirikr said:
    "I loathe the name Souji Seta, but I can understand its necessity in a context like this. Still, I think it could have allowed more creativity to use a first-person narrative and have people not refer to him by anything specific, like in the game. "

    Exactly, I think it would be way more interesting if they made it in a way that he didn't have to be called by his name (all the time), just like in Persona 4.
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    #15  Edited By FrankCanada97

    I was reading this before, really has that professional quality.

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    #16  Edited By Vect

    While I don't have an issue with the name Souji, I do believe that Charlie Tunoku is a way more awesome name.

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    #17  Edited By yetiantics

    Definately will read this later on. Its actually looks pretty good.
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    #18  Edited By Ping5000

    Fan fiction generally brings negative connotations in my mind, but huh, I'm really enjoying this.

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    #19  Edited By EvilTwin

    The reason I don't like fan-fiction isn't because of a lack of creativity and originality, even though those may be ubiquitous throughout fan-fiction (I wouldn't really know).  I'm just stuck in the very rigid canon of everything.  If it isn't part of the canon it doesn't exist to me.  Probably unfortunate for me, but that's the way it is. 

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    #20  Edited By FluxWaveZ
    @EvilTwin said:
    "The reason I don't like fan-fiction isn't because of a lack of creativity and originality, even though those may be ubiquitous throughout fan-fiction (I wouldn't really know).  I'm just stuck in the very rigid canon of everything.  If it isn't part of the canon it doesn't exist to me.  Probably unfortunate for me, but that's the way it is.  "

    I'm pretty much the same way.  It warps my vision on what the story and characters really are like.  I mean, Souji has a personality in that fan fic. that I really don't see him fitting as and Yukiko is the girl Souji loved so much?  Really?  I guess you just have to see these as stories that the person has created and not as stories of what the person guesses could happen next.
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    #21  Edited By ArbitraryWater
    @EvilTwin said:
    " The reason I don't like fan-fiction isn't because of a lack of creativity and originality, even though those may be ubiquitous throughout fan-fiction (I wouldn't really know).  I'm just stuck in the very rigid canon of everything.  If it isn't part of the canon it doesn't exist to me.  Probably unfortunate for me, but that's the way it is.  "
    I am also the same way. Be glad that you have (probably) never read a Star Wars Expanded Universe novel. I read some when I was in middle school, and they read like bad fan-fiction. Especially the ones that are supposed to be episodes 7-9 (The emperor uses his evil dark jedi magic to revive himself? What?) Hell, episode 1 and 2 are like bad fan-fiction (3 was ok.), except that they were written by George Lucas himself. 
     
    Despite this diatribe, I can at least tell that this Fan Fic is well written, even though It's sort of painful for me to read it
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    #22  Edited By the8bitNacho

    Obviously I'm not asking anyone to change their opinions or views on fanfiction here.  It's generally set in stone whether or not you can stomach the concept, no matter how well written or conceived.  I'm just asking you to set it aside and try to read a chapter or two and see if it hooks you.  
     
    To those that have been reading and enjoying, I'm glad!  Makes me glad I brought this to the attention of the community and managed to get the author a couple more readers.  Makes it worth it.  The story is not complete yet, so if you reach the "end" and want to read more, I'd personally make a fanfiction.net account and subscribe so that you can be alerted by email whenever a new chapter goes up.
     
    To those that have been saying that it would be better from a nameless, first-person perspective, I honestly have to disagree.  Then again, that stems from a bias I have toward mute main characters in video games.  It drives me insane.  Also, having read everything presently published, I really don't think it would have been as effective from a first-persona point of view.

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    #24  Edited By eirikr
    @Kombat said:
    To those that have been saying that it would be better from a nameless, first-person perspective, I honestly have to disagree.  Then again, that stems from a bias I have toward mute main characters in video games.  It drives me insane.  Also, having read everything presently published, I really don't think it would have been as effective from a first-persona point of view. "
    But in this context, he wouldn't have to be mute. That's merely a gameplay device. There are ways of creatively writing around a character's name if he doesn't have one. The name Souji Seta is nowhere in the game, therefore it is not his name.
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    #25  Edited By Vect

    For example: There's the Let's Play of Persona 3 of Something Awful works sorta like a fanfiction. The guy uses the name Minato Arisato for the MC and he writes the LP as if it's his Livejournal. He gives him a relatively fleshed-out personality, that of a snarky Emo who through the power of Hanging Out With People To Get Magic Powers becomes more the Messianic Figuretype he's meant to be by the end.      
     http://lparchive.org/LetsPlay/Persona3/    

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    #26  Edited By the8bitNacho

    Minato Arisato -- like Souji Seta -- is the name provided for Persona 3's protagonist in the game's official manga adaptation.
     
    Admittedly that is a pretty cool idea.  Given the narrative that Simulacrum is going for, it wouldn't have worked at all for this particular story, but I'd like to see something similar from the Persona 4 angle.

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    #27  Edited By cdfishman

    anything is better than the jurassic park fan fiction i saw the other day.

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    #28  Edited By herreno

    Read up to chapter 7 and It is pretty interesting so far.

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    #29  Edited By eirikr
    @Kombat said:
    " Minato Arisato -- like Souji Seta -- is the name provided for Persona 3's protagonist in the game's official manga adaptation.
    Yes, but it's not in the game, which is my whole beef with it. I feel having an official name when the primary medium doesn't cheapens and kinda pisses on your own experience. In a "glad you enjoyed it, but here's what REALLY happened" sort of way.
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    #30  Edited By Metroid545

    you got me, my ADD only allowed me to read the first paragraph before dropping a quick reply and moving on with my life.

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    #31  Edited By Curufinwe
    @Kombat: Thanks for posting this.  I almost never read fan-fiction not because I hate in on principle, but I love P4 enough to give this a read.
     
    I found out the official name of the MC prior to the game's release and used it when I played, so Souji Seta works for me.  But it didn't bother me in the slightest to hear that the canon name of P3's MC was Minato Arisato even though I was dozens of hours into playing P3 as Sousuke Tanazaki when I heard it.
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    #32  Edited By the8bitNacho

    Honestly, I also steer clear of fanfiction the vast majority of the time.  After finishing Persona 4 with the true ending, however, I felt the need for more.  More exposition into the lives of these characters that I had just spent 70+ hours with.  I wasn't done with them.  Due to the open-ended nature of the social linking system, allowing the player to select their best friend and even their girlfriend(s), Persona 4 seemed to me like the ultimate game for fanfiction.  I was disappointed when I found that very few pieces for the game actually exist, but because of that I came across this gem rather quickly.

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    #33  Edited By FluxWaveZ
    @Kombat said:
    "Honestly, I also steer clear of fanfiction the vast majority of the time.  After finishing Persona 4 with the true ending, however, I felt the need for more.  More exposition into the lives of these characters that I had just spent 70+ hours with.  I wasn't done with them.  Due to the open-ended nature of the social linking system, allowing the player to select their best friend and even their girlfriend(s), Persona 4 seemed to me like the ultimate game for fanfiction.  I was disappointed when I found that very few pieces for the game actually exist, but because of that I came across this gem rather quickly. "

    But you have to understand that the continuation of the story by fans is in no way what the writers had intended for the potential future of these characters.  I think that's why most people (including me) do not like fan fiction.  Because it's the continuation of the story of how a fan sees it, not the actual writers.
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    #34  Edited By the8bitNacho

    Doesn't matter in the least to me.  I simply wanted to bring this to the attention of the massive Persona 4 fanbase inhabiting Giant Bomb so that maybe this guy could get a little more recognition for this apparent labor of love.  I fully understand that this is not "canon," but as there isn't likely to be a "canon" continuation to the Persona 4 story, I don't have a problem viewing it as such.

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    #35  Edited By nick69

    That's a good read, even though I just finished the first chapter. Ha, I've got a long way to go. 
     
    Thanks for posting this.
     
    Edit: Now I'm into Chapter 6, the one thing I don't like about this, is the fact that you change perspective's in this story. Like you go from souji, to naoto, to souji, then to nanako. But whatever, still a good story.

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    #36  Edited By Bartman3010

    I've got a few problems with it. I will say, it started out really cool, kind of mysterious. Its a nice take on what happened to the Shadow World after the game is finished. 
     
    Though in later chapters, it kind of goes in circles, with characters arguing with each other, and constantly saying the same damn thing in their head over and over again in terms of "jealousy" and there are moments where its like the writer just threw his arms up and just said "Okay, whatever, lets just wrap that part up already!" Then theres issues of names being mixed up in some parts. Some of the suffix words like kun, chan and senpai were not used correctly, I think. Its also much darker than the story in the game itself, which is kind of a downer, but it probably works with the context of the story and the character of Seta/Charlie
     
    Still, hope he gets a chance to finish it. I'd like to see how this plays out.
     
    PS, Bonus points if Chie branded the main character with "Charlie" as a nickname or something.

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    #37  Edited By Bartman3010

    Actually you know what? I'm gonna decry about the characters in the story, so skip this post if you dont want to be spoiled about it. 
     
    Why does Chie feel the need to rely on holding a firearm? I figure she would get it back, then return it to work thanks to her martial arts mentality, like she would say "Guns are for chumps, I can always hold a crane stance against a bullet any day." Or something to that effect. She also gets knocked the 'eff out several times in the story. Only to immediatley get back up like it was nothing, at least most of the time anyway. I wouldnt make such a big deal about it, but when something major happens to her down the line, the story kind of runs with it....then drops it. As if its like "Yeah, this isnt going as well as I had hoped..." Meanwhile, Yosuke is pretty violent torward Charlie/Seta. So when the main character just doesnt feel like having to reason with Yosuke as if he really is that stubborn. Which causes some discussions later in the story to be long winded and...go nowhere. Like when Charlie is caught at his house, he could've playfully implicated that his big master plan was willing to share the food he was working on when he got done making it.  When Yosuke and Chie eventually snap to, they dont seem as emotionally attached to Charlie as the other characters did. They dont seem to want to try and apologize to their friend they havent seen in years. Also, Naoto just doesnt seem as punctual as she is in the game. Using big words and sentences to deliver across that shes a very sophisticated and intelligent person.

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    #38  Edited By nick69

    So is chapter 13 the ending for simulacrum? I feel like it just left me hanging, with no real closure. 

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    #39  Edited By TheSovereign

    Well, I'm about half way through and it isn't that great. The writing isn't bad, but it isn't outstanding either. I find it kinda boring. As for the content, the author actually gripped me in the beginning, but the story has now dissolved into a bunch of assholes arguing with each other. My main problem is that it doesn't match the experience I had with the game (watching the endurance run). I've familiarized myself with Charlie, the crazy womenizer. I think its actually not a good idea to write fan fics for games like Persona. I am not pleased, but I don't have beef with Fan Fiction, it allows people to develop their own writing skills. Having a prefab set of characters with a general idea what they'll do is a great way to learn what you must do with your own creations.

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    #40  Edited By FrankCanada97
    @nick69: No it isn't finished yet.
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    #41  Edited By FrankCanada97

    New Chapter is up.

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    #42  Edited By Bartman3010

    If you havent read up to chapter 14, disregard this post
     
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    Man, Chie really loves that gun. Knock on her door, she'll probably greet you after she pumped you full of lead.
     
    Still doesnt seem right....

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    #43  Edited By the8bitNacho
    @Bartman3010: As a cop, you're trained to defend yourself from a distance and avoid physical combat with a hostile.  You never know what some psycho is going to pull on you, or what they're capable of.  Obviously with a fleeing assailant, it's a different story.
     
    ---Thoughts on Chapter 14 (spoilers)---
    I was admittedly a little worried about where the story is going at the conclusion of the previous chapter.  The idea of Souji and his Shadow fusing together was a bit off-putting, but I was actually glad to see that the Shadow had more of a malicious intent than was initially apparent.  The end of the chapter was definitely interesting, and I can't wait to see what's actually going on with Inaba.  
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    #44  Edited By OwnlyUzinWonHan

    Usually I laugh at my sister for reading em, but this fan fiction's actually alright. I think I care for it more than I would something else because I felt really close to the characters by the end of P4, so it's probably me being excited for more situations than it is good writing.

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    #45  Edited By bulletstorm

    :( Man this is rough, this is not how I'd have liked to imagine things happening after the end of Persona 4... De-press-ing.

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    #46  Edited By FatalError

    I've read the first two chapters so far and I'm really liking it.

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    #48  Edited By LiquidPrince

    Should be named Charlie Tunoku or my character Takashi Matsumo.

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    #49  Edited By FluxWaveZ

    So after watching today's episode of the Endurance Run, I think there's a certain mistake in the fan fic.  The signed photo of Rise is signed "Rise" in the fan fic. but in the game the photo Rise actually gives the main character is signed "Risette".
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    #50  Edited By mrfluke

    lol talk about a minor detail you noticed. not bagging on you ( done with that shit) just props for being in depth  
     
    im reading it and yeh its not bad id pay 2 see this story be presented in some sort of downloadable episodic format

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