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Giant Bombcast 649: Courtnite

Alex Navarro joins us from NYC to talk Madden 21, Outriders, Mortal Shell, Spiritfarer, Rogue Legacy 2, next year's new Switch, the DC FANDOME, the latest on Apple v. Epic, and rollicking debates on foods like mustard, soda, and, uh, Vicks VapoRub?

The Giant Bombcast is the world's most beloved video game podcast, and now it's available in video form.

Aug. 25 2020

Cast: Brad, Alex, Ben, Jan

Posted by: Brad

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Hmmm, did they miss the Black Myth's trailer?

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Alex in Bombcast a mix-upI didn’t expect.

this lockdown West and East collab is great

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Hmm, needs more cowbell

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Jan did get Courtnite slipped through then eh?

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That surprise "cameo" was hilarious lol

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37:30 for some spicy sam sandwich

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Damn hope Jeff and Jason are alright

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@janman and other dudes near the fires, rinse off those ashes on the car regularly. They will etch and damage the clear coat if left on there.

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I've heard rumors of Washington Football Fans ordering their jerseys through DHGate. I have a feeling that none of that money goes to Dan Snyder.

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The offscreen Sam cameo is an all time great moment of pandemic-era GB.

@jeff & @unastrike: Thinking of you guys. Hope you and your families are well.

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I do like people passionate about Video Games. Preach Sam!

I'm not sure it could ever happen but I'd absolutely love having all the crew's partners/housemates hosting, even if it's just the intro or between breaks or something.

And most importantly no one acknowledge anything.

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I watched more of that fandome than I really should have but I don't know how you come away from either of those games positive. They look like the most shitty boilerplate licensed games they could be

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Spiritfarer is amazing and so much more than I expected. I didn’t even think about this one, another Game Pass Game I wouldn’t have touched without that.

Madden 21 ist broken for me, there were like 23 fumbles in one game I’ve played and even more interceptions, it’s ridiculous. And it’s a shame that it’s never gonna be patched, because they don’t do that. Also the career mode looks and feels much worse than in 20?

So Im gonna Play NFL2K on Xbox again I guess?

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This episode made me laugh a lot.

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the drinks with lemon in them tasted like the soda with lemon scented cleaner in them.

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Alex's partner came with the fire LOL

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I'd like to report to Alex that Dream Theater reuniting with their old drummer is not just important to him, but also that it does not seem to be the case

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Vaseline and Honey? WTF?

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Is Jeff okay?

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Regarding Epic. vs. Apple:

There is a great YouTube channel called Hoeg Law on YouTube (he's a lawyer / head of a law firm) with an entire series of videos breaking down EVERYTHING about this case. It's fascinating!

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Ben is absolutely correct, we need the return of Pepsi Blue

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Hope Jason and Jeff are ok.

Also, Sam bringing the thunder was great.

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I'm troubled both by the Vicks story and more so by a routine search about it finding that it isn't all that uncommon.

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omg, I was thinking of trying to bring up Among Us to them. I have been watching a shit load of big Twitch streamers play it and it is extremely entertaining to watch. I really don't know how the crew will handle it. Since it's a very aggressive game and I just can't imagine them yelling at each other like that.

https://www.animemusicvideos.org/lists/usedmusic.php

Linkin Park by a mile, but it seems to stop having AMVs listed at some point. I am sure there's nothing new people would have started using however

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Holy shit Alex is in trouble! Laughed way hard at that moment.

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I wrote a whole bunch of stuff but Token error so in short - I thought that Snyder cut trailer looked pretty interesting because I can't think of another time when a fully released movie was recut in such a dramatic way and presented again. It's a very fascinating situation to see how it will turn out because you will essentially get a real directors-ass-cut on this one.

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The original Rogue Legacy absolutely had a downward strike, and it sounds like the new one functions much the same. I guess maybe the new game focuses more on it as a core mechanic? In the old game I remember it seeming like a thing I should have been using had I been better at the game, but I mainly just flailed around.

In fact, if I'm not mistaken there was an option to have it trigger just by pressing down in mid-air (i.e. without having to press the usual attack button), suggesting it was seen as a pretty key thing.

Obviously it doesn't really matter and people forget stuff which is fine, but it's kind of weird to hear them make such a big deal about something which in pretty sure was largely identical in the original as if it's some grand innovation.

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Sam: "Heard you was talkin' some shit!"

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So are fruit salads, pasta salads, and potato salads considered not to be salads because they don't have lettuce?

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Dream Theater put out a pretty decent record recently, Distance Over Time. And Mike Portnoy's not back in the band, but he did play drums on John Petrucci's new solo album (out this Friday!) So that's a pretty cool reunion.

I like Ben's "no more movies over 2 hours" platform.

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If Epic can set up shop on the app store, does that mean that Coke can set up beverage kiosks inside privately owned supermarkets and mom and pop shops and then sell soda cheaper? Cause that's how this works if taken into the non-digital realm... I still have no idea what Epic thinks they're doing here.. Are they really so oblivious as to think that the phones aren't just displays for the store? Like... sony and nintendo etc don't make a lot of money off of the devices, it's all about the store.. If you bypass their cut, guess what? Sony doesn't make any money... If you bypass Apple's cut, guess what? Apple doesn't make the money they need to fill up their money vault, err, I mean do R&D for the next phones. Apple makes about 5-6 new CPUs within the lifespan of a console generation... It's not like they're not spending money on the platform.

I lost so much respect for Epic and Sweeney after this. His idiot tactic is a longshot that, if it goes through, will mean we're likely done with high-end consoles after this generation. Maybe even mid generation as Sony and co can no longer keep doing this for free.
So ridiculously dumb. I agree that Apple's(and others) cut is way too high, but this is just super stupid. Money got to the dude's head. He'll write about this in his memoirs "After a celebratory two year coke binge my brain was pretty much done. My ego was bloated and amplified my delusions, in the end I thought I could set up shop in another shop and have justice on my side. Maybe the lowest point in my profesional life and ultimately a much needed wakeup call."

This shit just makes me angry. Idiocy mixed with greed AND awkward theatrics is just too much.

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3 bananas cut to rounds with penut butter.

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You eat jello shots, which are typically made with vodka. So you are drunk haha

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I once had a banana that was like two bananas had grown together, and it got to be too much for me before the end, surprisingly.

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If Epic can set up shop on the app store, does that mean that Coke can set up beverage kiosks inside privately owned supermarkets and mom and pop shops and then sell soda cheaper? Cause that's how this works if taken into the non-digital realm...

I believe Epic would argue they would setting up shop beside the App Store, not in it, by being able to operate their own payment processing (and potentially their own servers for update delivery and what not). If we're going to go down in meat-space analogies, I think Epic and Sweeny's argument is that if your iPhone is a street, they can't open an alternative, competing store on the same street as the Apple App Store.

Theatrics aside, I'm still holding on to possible positive of (somehow) smaller developers are able to gain a bigger cut if Epic manages to win its lawsuit. How long I'm holding on to that given how ugly lawsuits get is an open question. If anything, it's kinda fun watching the drama and unearthed dirt unfold from afar.

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Fantastic show!

Brad--great work on the Wausau, WI pronunciation. You nailed it.

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@jamesm said:

The original Rogue Legacy absolutely had a downward strike, and it sounds like the new one functions much the same. I guess maybe the new game focuses more on it as a core mechanic? In the old game I remember it seeming like a thing I should have been using had I been better at the game, but I mainly just flailed around.

In fact, if I'm not mistaken there was an option to have it trigger just by pressing down in mid-air (i.e. without having to press the usual attack button), suggesting it was seen as a pretty key thing.

Obviously it doesn't really matter and people forget stuff which is fine, but it's kind of weird to hear them make such a big deal about something which in pretty sure was largely identical in the original as if it's some grand innovation.

In 2 they now use it as a traversal mechanic as well as an offensive tool. There are certain objects you can 'bounce' off with the downward strike to scale vertical areas etc. There is definitely a greater emphasis on it.

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Really surprised Ben hadn't even hit a boss in Rogue Legacy 2. I've found the boss room in a lot of runs and I still haven't gotten past the third world in Scourgebringer, which seems like a much harder game. I also bounced back to Rogue Legacy 1 and turns out, both games are just about as brutal. I actually feel like I survive in RL2 much better.

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@eribuster: Wouldn't in this scenario the street be privately built and maintained by Apple? Because as I understand it, you are paying the 30% premium because you are opening up a store on a very well kept, trendy street because you want to sell to those specific customers using that particular street.

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How did you guys miss brighter, less reflective, and bigger bezel less screen as a potential upgrade to the Switch? Seems to me like that would be the biggest deal, if they could manage that. It’s practically impossible to see darker games during the daytime and even the brighter ones aren’t the easiest to see. Then there’s that huge bezel, if they could find a way to eliminate that and fill it with more screen they could have a bigger screen and keep the same form factor.

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@benpack if you're really serious about frozen pizza, you can invest in a $60 pizza steel to cook your $10 frozen pizza. Price to value is questionable, but I got one and it made a huge difference.

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@csl316: Why no more movies over 2hrs long? There are so many great movies that are over 2hrs long and are better for it. This smells of the same stink as no more games over 8 hours, it's just a subjectively rubbish statement. I love a ton of long movies, YouTube videos (one of my favourites is a 7hr+ essay on Death Stranding. As far as games go, if a game is good I will put 100s of hours into it and love the experience.

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@csl316: Why no more movies over 2hrs long? There are so many great movies that are over 2hrs long and are better for it. This smells of the same stink as no more games over 8 hours, it's just a subjectively rubbish statement. I love a ton of long movies, YouTube videos (one of my favourites is a 7hr+ essay on Death Stranding. As far as games go, if a game is good I will put 100s of hours into it and love the experience.

Stink and rubbish, because of Ben's silly joke? Alright then.

But yeah, now that you mention it, games are too long now, too.

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Someone should make a Giant Bomb AMV

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Never ceases to amaze that the amount of hyperbole Zack Snyder things bring out in people.

Edit: Not taking any digs at the guys, their jokey hyperbole just reminded me of the response in general.