Giant Bombcast Giant Bomb Game of the Year 2010: Day Four

I was hoping Brad would bring up Shattered Memories for best story but he got hung up on that cornball Starcraft 2 nonsense.

" Quote from Brad's own Five Star review of Mass Effect 2:

 

The story gains momentum and intrigue from this fundamental shakeup, and you get a more colorful cast of characters to work with thanks to the relative lawlessness you're operating in. There's a breakneck pacing to working on the fringes of the galaxy, and of galactic society, that really grabbed me and pulled me right along for the ride. 
 

To then turn around and say this game doesn't belong on the list of best story of the year...  And then in this podcast you say it's story is disjointed!  You have ZERO credibility and I have lost all respect for you.
 
ME2 has the best story of 2010, hands down.
 
I am done with these GOTY podcasts.  Too much emotion and personal agendas, not enough honesty and integrity.

"

"Quote for Brad's own Five Star review of Mass Effect 2:

 

The story gains momentum and intrigue from this fundamental shakeup, and you get a more colorful cast of characters to work with thanks to the relative lawlessness you're operating in. There's a breakneck pacing to working on the fringes of the galaxy, and of galactic society, that really grabbed me and pulled me right along for the ride. 
 

To then turn around and say this game doesn't belong on the list of best story of the year...  And then in this podcast you say it's story is disjointed!  You have ZERO credibility and I have lost all respect for you.
 
ME2 has the best story of 2010, hands down.
 
I am done with these GOTY podcasts.  Too much emotion and personal agendas, not enough honesty and integrity.

"

He did the same thing with the discussion regarding best add-on. In his review and in the ME2 podcast (January) he said he thought the game's combat was up there with the best third-person shooters. But when he wanted Minerva's Den to win best add-on, he severely downplayed ME2's combat. 

He did the same thing with the discussion regarding best add-on. In his review and in the ME2 podcast (January) he said he thought the game's combat was up there with the best third-person shooters. But when he wanted Minerva's Den to win best add-on, he severely downplayed ME2's combat. 

Yeahhh, the DS-only award was kind of a joke this year.

" @ryanwho:   How many 5 star games did Brad review this year?  Maybe you should take the blinders off fanboy. "

" @roughneck117:  whether or not I agree with it is really not the issue...I haven't played either.  It's HOW the game won.  and it's obvious he didn't convince them of anything..they gave in because the argument went on FAR too long.  hence why that entire category should be scrapped because having ONE person whine until he got what he wanted totally renders the ENTIRE PURPOSE of these "debates" invalid and pointless.  Frankly I don't care which one is better..it's HOW the decision was made (more like given into) that is the issue here.  and I see it started again with ME2 with him even though everyone agree'd before that argument started that Red Dead was the winner.  wow..seeing a totally, uncool, side to him now. "

Also, Brad's argument against Mass Effect 2 is bull. It isn't the best story because you couldn't have your perfect ending? And because of a stupid final boss? Please. It's as if he's going out of his way to bring down Mass Effect 2 so Starcraft will win or something. 

I definitly don't agree that ME2 had a great story, but Brad's objection to it is heavily flawed on a basic level.  His argument isn't a story one.  Its a character design one.  If the game tells you in just text that the reapers are liquidating humans and using the remains to build a human shaped reaper because they believe humans are the most advance race of this current galactic cycle, that sounds fine.  And that is what the story is.  The fact that the reaper looks like a terminator is all character design, and ME2 has plenty of bad character designs aside from that as well.  With Brad's logic, I can argue against the story by saying those dog shaped robots look retarded as does all the helmets for the Turian Blue Suns. 

" I was hoping Brad would bring up Shattered Memories for best story but he got hung up on that cornball Starcraft 2 nonsense. "

  I definitly don't agree that ME2 had a great story, but Brad's objection to it is heavily flawed on a basic level.  His argument isn't a story one.  Its a character design one.  If the game tells you in just text that the reapers are liquidating humans and using the remains to build a human shaped reaper because they believe humans are the most advance race of this current galactic cycle, that sounds fine.  And that is what the story is.  The fact that the reaper looks like a terminator is all character design, and ME2 has plenty of bad character designs aside from that as well.  With Brad's logic, I can argue against the story by saying those dog shaped robots look retarded as does all the helmets for the Turian Blue Suns.   

Nice. RDR.

I would also like to say how disappointed I am with how Brad's been acting to get his way in these arguments. I'm perfectly fine with him thinking Minerva's Den was best DLC and Read Dead Redemption was best story. But I would have been even more okay with it if, instead of contradicting, screaming, and strong-arming himself to the top, he had instead worked better on coming up with concise and reasonable arguments for his choices. He spent most of his time arguing why other popular picks did not deserve to be up there.  
 
Yeah...just a bit of a bummer.

Kinda bummed that Nier didn't get a mention for best story, I can think of few I've enjoyed more ever. I guess its the nature of four guys not being able to play all games but the same few games seem to be the only ones gedtting any props

They mentioned that the extra costumes in Enslaved are gamebreaking. Well, you're not allowed to use them until you finish the game once so they don't  really break the game.

" Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon came out last year guys. For as much time as you spend mocking digital Nintendo releases, you don't seem to pay attention to the boxed ones.  Also, Brad's argument against Mass Effect 2 is bull. It isn't the best story because you couldn't have your perfect ending? And because of a stupid final boss? Please. It's as if he's going out of his way to bring down Mass Effect 2 so Starcraft will win or something. "

" @CouncilSpectre: Yeah, I'm not slamming Brad on petty semantics and that means we're getting married later. You're a goddamn retard. "

I really don't see anything too unreasonable today.
 
Brad debates and argues why he doesn't think ME2's story isn't that great, everyone disagrees and he kinda relents, though they acknowledged a few of his points, and then everyone else agreed that RDR's story is better.
 
So why is everyone bitching?

" Quote from Brad's own Five Star review of Mass Effect 2:

 

The story gains momentum and intrigue from this fundamental shakeup, and you get a more colorful cast of characters to work with thanks to the relative lawlessness you're operating in. There's a breakneck pacing to working on the fringes of the galaxy, and of galactic society, that really grabbed me and pulled me right along for the ride. 
 

 http://www.giantbomb.com/mass-effect-2/61-21590/reviews/

To then turn around and say this game doesn't belong on the list of best story of the year...  And then in this podcast you say it's story is disjointed!  You have ZERO credibility and I have lost all respect for you.
 
ME2 has the best story of 2010, hands down.
 
I am done with these GOTY podcasts.  Too much emotion and personal agendas, not enough honesty and integrity.

"

Does anybody actually legitimately enjoy MAss Effect's Main Story?IDK reallly what the hell it is...something about reapers. But how they write the characters, side missions, is part of the game's overall story. So they deserve to be in the conversation. 

ME1 had a decent main story.
ME2 had some interesting side stories but the main story was kind of a joke.

Don't really give a shit who shares my opinion, but it seems that Brad's rose tinted goggles are finally starting to clear up in regards to ME2

" Brad needs to shut the fuck up, all his arguments are absolutely baseless.  and to you guys who said end of RDR > ME2:  negative. Riding around spamming a button to ride a horse while listening to mundane banter between you and your kid for TWO hours was awfullllll, it's too bad the damn kid didn't get murdered at the end for all the grief it caused me. "

 Jeff sounds more noticeably frustrated in this podcast

Red Dead wins because of the encroachment of industry? and the grand beautiful diverse fully built universe with loads of deapth in ME2 is ignored, the best sci-fi experience put to game just flat out ignored, seriously? If ME2 is being reduced to 'Get a team, fight the badies' then surely RDR must be reduced to 'Get home'. Ridiculous. Fuking ridiculous. RDR's story is literally just Western Movie cliches, granted that's why I had loads of fun with it but no way is that best story of the year material. Man, they should really not have rushed this out in one day. 
And another thing, in yesterday's bullshit DLC argument Brad even said that the best thing about Shadow Broker was it's awesome story and that it didn't win because it had more combat than story, which also I think is daft - I didn't think there was anything wrong with ME2's combat at all, I thought it superior to GoW FFS.

" @ArbitraryWater said:

" Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon came out last year guys. For as much time as you spend mocking digital Nintendo releases, you don't seem to pay attention to the boxed ones.  Also, Brad's argument against Mass Effect 2 is bull. It isn't the best story because you couldn't have your perfect ending? And because of a stupid final boss? Please. It's as if he's going out of his way to bring down Mass Effect 2 so Starcraft will win or something. "

Wait, they're pissing all over Fire Emblem? They just gave me a reason to listen to this. Or beat them up, I'm not sure. "

We're cooking crack in SPACE!

" @Turambar:   You've just given me one less reason to listen to the Bombcast :P. And Vinny, if you're reading this (you aren't, but let's pretend that he is), Shadow Dragon was released last year. There was a Fire Emblem released this year, but unfortunately, it was a Japan-only affair. Fuck. "

 SAM FISHER/MICHAEL IRONSIDE IMPRESSION OF THE YEAR GOES TO: 
 
JEFFFFF GERSTMANNNN!!!

surpised Ryan didn't mention brotherhood for best story.                                

"I have not played RDR, and am not taking "sides".  But just like the past three days, all of Brad's arguments are baseless and the way he presents them is rude and inconsiderate.  He was consistently foolish in the ER of Deadly Premonition and chose to blame the game (which is poor) instead of his own self, while Vinny was playing just fine.  He then uses his own failures to stop any discussion of the game.  He's reminding me of a few of my friends who latch on to a certain game and never let go, regardless the greater discussion at hand.  He talks shit about a game he previously gave FIVE STARS to in an effort to get "his" thing to win, as if it were a child and he the close-minded parent.  It's fine to have discussion and disagreement because that's what all these podcasts are about.  Through all of 2010, however, Brad keeps crossing the line and by now I and others have such little respect for the guy that I'd have no problem with him no longer being a part of Giant Bomb come the new year. "

Solution to all the problems people are having with Brad: 
 
  http://www.giantbomb.com/profile/brad/
 
It wasn't hard to find, and it's easy to post on his wall.  If you have concerns with the guy, bring it to the man.  Otherwise, it's all just hyperbole and for personal benefit, so shouldn't even be made.