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Giant Bombcast Giant Bomb's GOTY 2011 Deliberations: Day Three

Dec. 28th 2011

Supplies begin to run low and panic sets in as we frantically decide Best Competitive Multiplayer, Best Use of Nolan North, and more!

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Awesome!

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Go!

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Sweet! Right when I get to the gym. Perfect timing!

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Todays' podcast brought to you by Ocean MediaStrategy Marketing Inc.

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THE THIRD

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Best Competitive Multiplayer: BATTLEFIELD BATTLEFIELD BATTLEFIELD BATTLEFIELD BATTLEFIELD

edit: jeff: what about apples to apples?

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Aaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwww yeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Theeere it is .... it's... it's wonderful!

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Sweet, day three!

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I call bullshit on Ryan's additions to the Battlefield discussion. Battlefield in general is immensely harder to get into, be good at, and have fun with than any other competitive multiplayer shooter that has came out recently. Not saying it shouldn't have won, because i agree with that decision. But saying that BF3 isn't downright frustrating to play online is a load of junk.

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@Phished0ne: It's an opinion y'know.

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@depecheload said:

@Phished0ne: It's an opinion y'know.

Yeah...your point being? my comment was an opinion too.

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Wait, what video is Brad talking about when he talks about Battlefield 3? Anyone got a link or information about that?

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If I ever play KOR, I'm going to play smuggler class.

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@Phished0ne said:

I call bullshit on Ryan's additions to the Battlefield discussion. Battlefield in general is immensely harder to get into, be good at, and have fun with than any other competitive multiplayer shooter that has came out recently. Not saying it shouldn't have won, because i agree with that decision. But saying that BF3 isn't downright frustrating to play online is a load of junk.

Why do you believe that Battlefield is more difficult to get into than other competitive multiplayer shooters?

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I'm really confused about the Northies section.

Aren't the spheres in Portal 2 only heard during the final boss for about a couple minutes? So the loud music, explosions and the fact that you are trying to beat the boss quickly means that you can barely hear what they are saying. The only reason I even know about the spheres and their funny dialogue is because I went and listened to them on Youtube afterwards.

I don't see how that's the best use of Nolan North in a game. Unless I missed something major in Portal 2.

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Most brain-numbing overuse of a word in comments 2011: "opinion". 

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@Phished0ne said:

I call bullshit on Ryan's additions to the Battlefield discussion. Battlefield in general is immensely harder to get into, be good at, and have fun with than any other competitive multiplayer shooter that has came out recently. Not saying it shouldn't have won, because i agree with that decision. But saying that BF3 isn't downright frustrating to play online is a load of junk.

I would also point out that BF3 on PC is broken as far as I'm concerned. I can barely connect to a match and when I do, 50% of the time it disconnects before the match finished. That right there means that BF3 doesn't even make my top 10 games of the year.

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@atomic_dumpling said:

Most brain-numbing overuse of a word in comments 2011: "opinion".

Couldn't agree more. But it's more of how it's used as the catch all excuse of "It's all, just, like, opinion, maaaaaaaaaaaaan."

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And you guys don't think Skyrim even makes the top 3 for best looking game of year?

Wow man, I couldn't disagree more with your choices this year.

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@chilibean_3 said:

@Phished0ne said:

I call bullshit on Ryan's additions to the Battlefield discussion. Battlefield in general is immensely harder to get into, be good at, and have fun with than any other competitive multiplayer shooter that has came out recently. Not saying it shouldn't have won, because i agree with that decision. But saying that BF3 isn't downright frustrating to play online is a load of junk.

Why do you believe that Battlefield is more difficult to get into than other competitive multiplayer shooters?

due to the large size of the maps it makes it extremely easy to be picked off by snipers from across the map as soon as you spawn. Also, when the game first released the flashlights were op, you shouldn't be able to be blinded by flashlight in broad daylight. That may have been patched though, i haven't played the game since release.

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I'm surprised that these guys haven't seen what EA is doing to Bioware. They are trying to turn them into "Blizzard".

Blizzard is the MMO titan and RTS titan.

EA now has Bioware in front of the hot new MMO and in a little while they will be attempting to put them in front of a hot new RTS.

it's so transparent and obvious.

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Dead Space 2 getting it's props! That game deserves more recognition that it's getting.

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Btw no Ryan, Witcher 2 isn't a huge world. It's 3 linear environments. Essentially its a bunch of corridors with high res textures decorating it. I think you guys should have actually played more of these games before sitting down to talk about them in depth.

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@atomic_dumpling said:

Most brain-numbing overuse of a word in comments 2011: "opinion".

Couldn't agree more. But it's more of how it's used as the catch all excuse of "It's all, just, like, opinion, maaaaaaaaaaaaan.

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Internet forums: too many Lebowski's, who can't chill out and abide.

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DROP A BOMB ON IT!

On a related note, why is Gears of War 3 not in the competitive multiplayer list? I think its a better package than even BF3.

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Need longer podcasts and more arguments. That is all.

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...I like Baird...

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Best name for a award goes to Giant Bomb for the Check Yourself Before You Wriggety-Wreck Yourself award.

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Scumbag Giantbomb, talks about competitive multiplayer, doesn't talk about fighting games with great online like Ultimate MvC3, SSFIV AE or KOF XIII.

But I guess in the end I agree Battlefield should win so it doesn't matter too much.

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Man, I'm really getting tired of people giving Bioshock: Infinite a pass and saying it isn't really a sequel. It takes place in an isolated, American-created city, involves a civil war stemming from radical political ideologies, has one hand dedicated to plasmids and the other dedicated to weapons...

If Infinite isn't a sequel, then Black Ops wasn't either.

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@Plasma said:

Scumbag Giantbomb, talks about competitive multiplayer, doesn't talk about fighting games with great online like Ultimate MvC3, SSFIV AE or KOF XIII.

But I guess in the end I agree Battlefield should win so it doesn't matter too much.

Competitive multiplayer doesn't require online though. Seriously :/. And the online does suck in all of those games. (nor does giantbomb care about those 3 games. Maybe Street Fighter but that's not really a 2011 game).

But Starcraft II, the obvious winner. I don't even play Starcraft II but cmon, have you seen that scene?

You've let me down Brad. I am shocked.

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Not that I think it would win or even be nominated, but just a tiny bit surprised that Child Of Eden didn't make their best looking game deliberations, even as a mention. I mean, space whale people! That game is how I show off my home theater projection system...

PS. Whoops, my bad! I thought they were done discussing this, and there they go and bring up the space whale. Faith in the GB crew restored!

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@VincentLonga said:

Todays' podcast brought to you by Ocean MediaStrategy Marketing Inc.

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@Tan: remember that starcraft 2 came out last year. the award was for best competitive multiplayer for a game that was released this year.

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@Tan said:

@Plasma said:

But Starcraft II, the obvious winner. I don't even play Starcraft II but cmon, have you seen that scene?

You've let me down Brad. I am shocked.

Tricky to make a case, given that Starcraft II was technically a 2010 game. But yeah...

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@Phished0ne said:

@chilibean_3 said:

@Phished0ne said:

I call bullshit on Ryan's additions to the Battlefield discussion. Battlefield in general is immensely harder to get into, be good at, and have fun with than any other competitive multiplayer shooter that has came out recently. Not saying it shouldn't have won, because i agree with that decision. But saying that BF3 isn't downright frustrating to play online is a load of junk.

Why do you believe that Battlefield is more difficult to get into than other competitive multiplayer shooters?

due to the large size of the maps it makes it extremely easy to be picked off by snipers from across the map as soon as you spawn. Also, when the game first released the flashlights were op, you shouldn't be able to be blinded by flashlight in broad daylight. That may have been patched though, i haven't played the game since release.

I have never ever ever been killed by a sniper "across the map as soon as you spawn" ... In fact, I have been killed by snipers less than by any other class. Also: The flashlights were annoying but hardly a real problem since not a lot of people use them (from what I saw in around 150 hours) ... sure, you get killed because of them from time to time but nothing that stands out.  
 
And saying the game is "downright frustrating" because of 2 things you don't like doesnt seem like a well informed and valid opinion to me.
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Incredibly sad to not see Ghost Trick get any mention for Best Looking Game. Would it have a chance at winning it against The Witcher 2, Dead Space 2 and Rayman? Not a chance; but it would've been nice to see it at least mentioned, cause damn that 2D character art animates well.

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@DexterKid said:

And you guys don't think Skyrim even makes the top 3 for best looking game of year?

Wow man, I couldn't disagree more with your choices this year.

I'm playing Skyrim on my super rad PC which plays it on high at 60 fps; no way does it look as good as Rayman, uncharted, witcher 2...

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@DexterKid that's just like your opinion man
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@Duffyside: I'm more getting tired of "Everything is awesome, but nobody is happy"

N-no....no....A lot of the big sequels this year were creatively bankrupt and lazy. They're letting developers off to easily.

@DexterKid: I think Deus EX Human Revolution, Alice: Madness Returns, Catherine, Shadows of the Damned, Battlefield 3 and Outland all look markedly better than Skyrim. And so do their picks. Glad they didn't let hype cloud their judgement on that one.

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The first angry outburst of GOTY deliberations 2011 goes to Jeff. Looking forward to the rest of the podcasts and many more "what the fuck are you even talking abouts."

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@Phished0ne said:

I call bullshit on Ryan's additions to the Battlefield discussion. Battlefield in general is immensely harder to get into, be good at, and have fun with than any other competitive multiplayer shooter that has came out recently. Not saying it shouldn't have won, because i agree with that decision. But saying that BF3 isn't downright frustrating to play online is a load of junk.

Sure, if you care about "getting good." But it's incredibly easy to load up Battlefield 3, jump in a jet and have a lot of ridiculous fun. If you want to get "pro gamer" about it, then maybe you're right but on a pure fun to time spent scale, Battlefield is second to none.

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Anybody feel like everybody forgot that Deus Ex came out this year?