Metal Gear Scanlon: 3: Part 12

Hey, we won't be able to say that Drew's playing it wrong, because he won't be interacting with it very much.

Damn, I forgot what a complete Kojima rollercoaster this sequence is, its like a supercut of every action movie ever.

Drew going HAM.

This game is immensely more fun if you actually learn to play it. It's not Drew's fault, because the game just doesn't seem interested in explaining all the cool stuff you can do.

For example:

- You can lean left/right/up in first person view

- You can "aim" in third person view, and mow down enmies if you're caught

- You can "freeze" the enemies (and move around them in aim 3rd person view)

- you can CQC/Grab enemies, then throw them down and freeze them

also, my favourite:

- You can CQC/Grab an enemy and execute a Cig Spray/Napkin attack to put them to sleep

copy&paste from the previous video, sorry

MGS 4 is probably the best playing of the games up until Ground Zeroes, because it has more modern and sensible controls. So in that regard it's fine. However, it is in the unenviable position of having to both explain the MGS world post-MGS2 as well as explain fucking everything hat has been brought up in the MGS series up to that point. So of course the end result is a game that, while controlling well, is a goddamn mess in terms of everything else. If people thought MGS 2 was out there, MGS 4 elevates it by turning the bullshit up to a new level. Long, long strings of boring cutscenes that exist only to explain nothing in the most boring way possible, characters being driven through the mud, and the worst narrative in the series. And the narratives have never been great so MGS 4 really lowered that bar.

There are some okay moments in MGS 4. The first chapter is actually really cool. But holy shit it is a chore of a game.

The cure system is so dumb. It completely kills the momentum and intensity of the bossfights having to dig out bullets and rub ointment on wounds.

At least it'll be more bitching about the game, and not bitching about Drew and Dan.

@darkbeatdk Or you could just wait until after the fight to cure yourself.

I replayed MGS4 last month for the first time in 4 years and I completely disagree with you. It's an incredible game that deserves every accolade it got. The only thing I found "bad" about it was the framerate and the shooting is a little too slow.

I never knew the original camera was so awesome like that! I specifically waited for subsistence so I had no reason to switch. I cracked up waaayyy too much at that, it was also really cool.

My problem with MGS 4 is largely its narrative and how the later chapters are structured. The game opens strong and then it falls off a cliff while at the same time turning a series with flimsy narratives and weak characters into a series with a narrative as solid as wet paper with characters having conclusions that are as unearned as the story leading up to them.

There's one great moment in the game and it is only so effective because it is fanservice.

MGS 4 deals largely in fanservice, but it's service that you want to send back to the chef because it's undercooked.

ocelot is an annoying little turd. stop it with your one trick, you pony.

Best one yet, that action sequence was super epic.

Thank God Dan insisted on basic camera for that sequence, there have been plenty of fights I just intuitively could tell were more difficult in 3D (I've never played Subsistence), particularly the Fury fight. Having defined lanes from a specific perspective in that fight is so helpful.

As for the rest of the stuff I read in these comments, this chase sequence is amazing (and since I've never played MGS3 in anything other than a single sitting, it's very cathartic to experience after a fairly long, slow, methodical burn...when playing MGS3 for yourself instead of web content), it's a shame Drew only just now realized every boss in these games is video games to the UTMOST degree (and I'm not sure he realized EVERY boss behaves that way), and I really enjoyed the change of pace with the Eva segment every time I played the game.

But I also always tried to get the most out of Metal Gear, and would often call everyone in my codec every time I entered a new room let alone new area or when I acquired new gear.

So glad I saved this episode for tonight, only an hour and a half wait for the finale!

can't wait

Man, Drew actually switched from Rocket Propelled Grenades to hand grenades.

There's no reason to ever use the Cure menu during a boss fight. Curing doesn't restore health; it only reduces the red part of your health bar (which happens from the right, NOT the left). Health regeneration is so slow, even with full stamina, it's not going to help you during a boss battle. Curing is for the open world segments *in between combat*.

During the Volgin fight when Drew was curing every 5 seconds, it didn't help him one bit. It only extended his time with Volgin.

I found the MGS4 controls and general action awful and convoluted when I played it ~5 years ago. The fact that they're 'better' than the controls in previous MGS games is hardly a compelling argument.

I think the likes of 2 and 3 hold up far better today since they get a more generous allowance for being 'old'.

Man, 42:25 is the coolest. But when those horns come in at 58:07, that's when I went "I fucking love Metal Gear Solid 3, god dammit."

And of course.... hulking, fast nuke tank comes at Drew. "Maybe a grenade...."

Yeah, you nailed it. Those are the things Drew could've done with knowing.

I had to try so many goddamn times for the frog he accidentally got at 50:35 lol

@49th said:

RIP Mission J Frog

He had a mission.

And it was to win our hearts.

@dancinginfernal said:

@49th said:

RIP Mission J Frog

He had a mission.

And it was to win our hearts.

Mission success. :')

Sigint sounded a bit unclear when he talked about Volgin.

"Watch out for Volgin's sharkattack!"

No, really! You sort of hear that! >_<'

oh god, he didnt get the sneaking suit. these boss fights might be painful to watch

Ocelot is such a whiney brat in this game. He's still a whiney brat later but just looks a bit cooler.

Aww.. I just realized Drew missed the sneaking suit.

man when the theme kicks in man

Haven't watched Metal Gear Scanlon 3 yet, but I got to the big sequence shown in the last part of this video today and immediately came here to make sure Drew used the original camera. One of the coolest action set pieces ever.

MGS3 Part 13

Honestly I think Splinter Cell Chaos Theory is much better than MGS3, but that’s just my opinion.

After 3 games of seeing a dude defeat Metal Gears, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say maybe they aren't well designed weapons.

Ocelot's hand gestures really get to me, and I don't know why. They're just so silly it's hard to consider him "cool"...

Fun fact: the Philosophers' Legacy was used to create the NWO.