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Metal Gear Scanlon

Metal Gear Scanlon: V: The Phantom Pain: The Trailers

It took us a year to get Drew up to speed. Now, let's confuse the hell out of him with speculation.

Drew Scanlon attempts to go on as many sneaking missions as he can find.

Aug. 20 2015

Posted by: Jason

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it's not Campbell becpause hes off running the soup kitchen for the diamond dogs u guys ugh Dan I can't believe u didn't kno

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@who42knows: The FOB stuff is completely optional. I don't plan on doing it really at all during my first playthrough really. We do know that the notification gets sent the moment the invasion starts, not if/when the invader gets spotted by your guards. I'd guess that since the HUD goes away during cutscenes, the notifications do as well and you'll get pinged once you're out. The only other thing that makes sense to me is that your base would be temporarily uninvadable while your'e in a cutscene. We'll find out soon though I guess!

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@ricobanderas: man, I'm as stumped as you are - I don't think it's Campbell either... maybe a new character? Would be weird to not have heard of him before though...

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@zabant: Great post, just wondering about the hair colour thing. Was there no mention of hair dye in the original MGS1 briefing vids? I remember Snake cutting his hair short, but I thought he changed the colour as well? I guess if what you say is true then I was confused by the artwork on the briefing tapes. So Liquid and Solid naturally have different hair colour?

@purpleeye: This should help:

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@edmundus: The official explanation for the hair differences between solid and liquid is the different gene expressions, a result from activating the dominant genes in one clone and the recessive genes in another.

Big Boss carries the genes for having both blonde and brown haired children.

Considering in MGS1 it's very clear that Solid has never met Liquid and isn't even aware he's a clone or even has a brother, it shows that the final shot in the trailer is not of BOTH liquid and Solid.

In fact, it's a duplicate of the exact same model, including the jackal teeth necklace (In liquids backstory he talks of hunting jackals in the middle east)

In all likelihood it's a hallucination, could be solidus also, thought I doubt it.

Liquid grew up in England and at some point ended up in the middle east, it's never stated when he left the UK.

Solid is a true born american and never left the US till he was already a soldier.

That final shot is of Two Eli's (Liquids). People saying it's solid are taking part in wishful thinking, and at worst begging for fanservice.

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Like Dan, I don't really quite understand Jeff's concerns that there won't be enough of a Metal Gear-y narrative in this game. It's just that everything around the main narrative is so much bigger that it's not so narrowly focused on.

Mild spoiler from review event twitter stuff today:

Also from stuff that was posted to twitter today, Jeff was wrong about the hospital sequence on the Bombcast this week. The hospital sequence wasn't in the E3 demo because they weren't showing basically any story or tutorial stuff...

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I want Dan and Drew to get a christmas bonus.

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Makes me sad this'll most likely be the last real Metal Gear game, such a wonderfully crazy franchise. Still, we've had a damn good run.

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Full circle. Well done.

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Get hyped.

The one with the New Order tune is my fave. Gotta rep fellow Mancs.

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What a year, thank you so much for doing this.

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It never ends It Never Ends IT NEVER ENDS DROWN IN METAL GEAR SCANLON

@zabant But I thought Solid cut his hair and had it's colour changed before the infiltration of Shadow Moses? Check out the briefing video for MGS1.

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I hope they play the original Metal Gear games now and stealth upload that too. Thank you for all the videos this year guys. Seriously considering the steam version of MGS:V.

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@mikerd said:

Also, yeah, probably worth mentioning that Solid Snake was never blond... I mean, who knows, Kojima could totally retcon that in TPP, or his hair from when he was a child could theoretically have darkened over time (it happens), but I think Dan was inferring something from the MGS 1 briefing stuff that wasn't meant to be implied.

Totes was. They specifically mention his blonde hair in the briefing. It was rumoured Kojima attempted to retcon it in Twin Snakes but I'm guessing he either re-retconned it back to blonde or just never did it, but yes. 100% Solid Snake has natural blonde hair.

I will put $1 on it.

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That Elegia trailer is so goddamn good.

And also, thanks again for Metal Gear Scanlon, Drew, Dan and Jason! This was good... wasn't it?

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I don't think that's Liquid Snake either to be honest.

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I haven't seen most of those trailers and man, all those characters and the music gave me the goosebumps.

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@allodude said:

Bwahaha yes! NEVER ENDING CONTENT!

In 2015 - Big Ryckert and Solid Scanlon established an Outer Heaven where subscribers would always have content.

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NOT YET SNAKE, IT'S NOT OVER YET

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I don't know why Dan is confused by Snake being in cahoots with the evil-looking dude with the megalomaniacal plan. You do realize this is the MGS where Big Boss turns heel, right?

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Dan looked so alarmed at Drew's lack of how numbers work.

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@quadrophrenic said:

I don't know why Dan is confused by Snake being in cahoots with the evil-looking dude with the megalomaniacal plan. You do realize this is the MGS where Big Boss turns heel, right?

You do realize this evil-looking dude destroyed Snake's motherbase, tortured and killed his people, not to mention almost killed and maimed him and his right hand man, right?

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Man awesome work Drew, Jason, and Dan pumping these MGS videos like this. Thanks a ton.

Also yeah those trailers did have some pretty great music.

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Lol Dan you big oblivious goof, of course it's Miller.

Also, regarding the question of "does anyone else have their voice actor changed for this game," Ocelot is newly voiced by Troy Baker. Regardless of your feelings on the change with Big Boss, this one definitely makes sense. Ocelot is too old to have the boyish voice of MGS3, and not old enough to have the raspy accent of the games later in the timeline.

Not to be 'that guy' who has to justify Kiefer Sutherland with some abetrary argument, but following that logic, it does makes sense that Hayter isn't the one who voices Big Boss. He's 10 years older than in Peace Walker and they did change his voice in MGS4, so with that in mind I guess it makes some amount of sense? I of course know Kiefer also voiced Big Boss in Ground Zeroes, although he barely had any lines in that game.

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The elusive Miller continues to thumb his nose at the authorities. Swaggering about in a garish new hat, he seemed to say, "Look at me, Dan Ryckert! I have a new hat!"

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The nurse (13m) is Donna Burke!

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I was totally uninterested in V until watching this video. Damn you Kojima and your batshit video games

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Woo!

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I'm hoping so hard that Drew plays Metal Gear Rising. I know Dan didn't love it but I need to see Drew's reaction to the craziness of that game.

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Lots of Bowie vibes.

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@thainatos: You have at least one tape to hunt down in TPP

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So, as someone who hasn't played any Metal Gear, is the overall story really so complicated as Dan makes it out to be?

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The 'Quiet is an older & now transgender Chico' rumour is actually my favorite speculation at the moment. The age matches up, the eye colour & the motivation behind cutting out his own tongue & the cryptic reply from Kojima on his account regarding criticism about Quiet's sexist character design.

Of course that doesn't explain the fading mascara reminiscent of The End or why she can now blink dagger but hey, it'll be fun finding out! ;p

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Man MGSV is such a good looking game, damn.

I got Ground Zeroes eventually but only ended up watching a friend play through it, I should play it myself, get some stuff done and familiarize myself with the controls before 5 comes out.

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@tr0n said:

So, as someone who hasn't played any Metal Gear, is the overall story really so complicated as Dan makes it out to be?

Just by playing the games? Yeah, very much so. I'm sure it can make more sense if you go around reading Wikis etc., but making it all make sense by just playing the games is hard.

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Hey, what about the awesome Quiet Trailer? :(

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@tr0n said:

So, as someone who hasn't played any Metal Gear, is the overall story really so complicated as Dan makes it out to be?

It can be, if you want to put specific characters under a microscope to deduce their motives. It's really no more complicated than any given spy movie or spy series like Jason Bourne / James Bond if you look at it from a distance.

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This hype wrap-up could have used a little horse poop for a stinger, but otherwise good job. I hadn't seen the last two trailers, I think I'd officially entered a hype-neutral state by then, thinking the reveal of open world Afghanistan was enough for me. Had no recollection of this Eli character, for example.

And as someone who never played Peace Walker, after watching that supercut I'm curious if the arm Big Boss gets attached is Zadornov's.

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That guy is like 100% miller

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"Miller the elusive". Oh Dan, Metal Gear Solid may be your favorite franchise, but you are surprisingly ignorant about it. I haven't played any of the games in years and even I know more than you.

I think he's on point with the whole Solid Snake being blonde thing, though. If he wasn't blonde before, they probably retconned it into it being the case now.

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Every day is Metal Gear Solid day here on Giantbomb.com!

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Dan doesn't know if Skullface is bad. Didn't he rape Paz then have Chico do it. Also ordered to have bombs put inside her. What planet is he from. Seems pretty f,'n bad to me.

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I'm convinced Dan is Miller to Drew's Snake. He continues to feed him misinformation, seemingly by accident, but perhaps there is a dark intention in it all. Is Dan really on our side? Do we know for sure he isn't a triple agent with Game Informer and Gamespot?

Can we trust Dan..?

I would go so far as to say that he is Liquid pretending to be Miller. Only a true bad guy would force other to play Mario Party.

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Dan doesn't know if Skullface is bad. Didn't he rape Paz then have Chico do it. Also ordered to have bombs put inside her. Seems pretty f,'n bad to me.

Oh, he knows he's bad. What he's wondering (as well as everyone else) is why exactly they're showing him talking with Big Boss in neutral to good terms and hanging out with him like it's no biggie.

He might be "good" in the sense that he will be an ally to us in the game. Or at a shaky ally.

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Hm, somehow I never caught on that Zero was speaking in that one trailer. Neat.

I wish Dan had let Drew infer on his own things about the trailers before telling him. I know you're excited, Dan, but it would have been cool to see if Drew picked up on Psycho Mantis and Liquid before telling him.

Miller is truly the Clark Kent of Diamond Dogs. Slap on a new coat and hat and not even a missing arm and leg will reveal your true identity.