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Quick Look: Borderlands

Giant Bomb rolls four deep in this look at some Borderlands co-op.

Sit back and enjoy as the Giant Bomb team takes an unedited look at the latest video games.

Oct. 14 2009

Cast: Jeff, Ryan, Brad, Vinny, Drew

Posted by: Brad

In This Episode:

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Looks good but does anyone else think that having only one action skill per character really sucks?I know they can be embellished by some passive skills but there doesn't seem to be much to differentiate between the classes.

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This game looks like it would be great to play with some friends online. Does it have local multiplayer as well?

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Looks like the PC crowd is really stoked. I can see why since it seems to be waayyy cheaper than the 360/PS3 version.  I wish the console game prices would drop.  We're in a Recession, dammit.

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Totaly pumped for this game. thanks for the quick look giantbomb!!!

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Just checked Amazon's best seller list, Borderlands has moved UP in the pre-order purchases.  Looks like it's gonna get good sales regardless of what anyone here thinks.

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@Lind_L_Taylor said:
" @Branthog said:
" @Lind_L_Taylor said:
" @Branthog said:

" I am really baffled by those of you saying "OMG GOTY! PRE-ORDER! LAUNCH DAY BUY!". Are we watching the same thing or do you know a lot more about this game than everyone else? I mean, the vibe I got from it was that it looked like a developer's first time off the bench, producing a rather generic "me too" game. I didn't see much variety and it looked uninspired. I don't hear much story, so far and I'm really tired of "kill random wildlife with different names like EVIL wolf and fantasy-named-goat-creature to level up!".   It'd be great if I find that I'm wrong, but seeing this game in action has taken it so far off of my "that looks like something I might buy" radar that it may as well be in another galaxy. I'm not saying it is crap or that it will suck, but that the impression it gave me is that I should expect to find this for $20 in the bin next to Wii Bass Fishing Expedition at the local Shop n' Save. "

You certainly do talk a lot of shit. I checked out your Achievements & I see that you have played Alone in the Dark as well as Kengo: Legends of the Nine. In fact, you have played a TON of shitty games!!  Also, I see that you have played a FEW AAA games & from the look of it you BARELY played any of them. Do you rent games only?  I mean Christ, look at Fallout 3...that was GOTY and you scored a D on it?!?!  Or was it Not-Applicable? I say you need to stop whining & go play some games for a change as your claim about being "the expert of fine game playing" doesn't match the reality of your Achievement list.   Judging from your Achievement List, if Borderlands is a shitty game, then it's right up your alley!
 
Not that I feel the need to justify gaming habits to someone all disproportionately butt-hurt over someone's comments on a game, but:
 
Advocating for a game by nit-picking a gamer's habits (as tracked by 360 achievements, no less!) is pretty idiotic non-sense. However, since you asked -- no, I haven't played many of those games that you're talking about. They show up because the discs were at one time put into the console to verify that they worked after being purchased (note the lack of any points). And since that leads to your other question, no I don't rent games and never have. I only buy games. And I buy a lot of them (because though I have little time for gaming and sometimes go for months without playing -- at least on a console -- I like to collect them as well as hardware).And you're right - I haven't finished Fallout 3 yet. As my entire collection of games and consoles (and a lot of other stuff) was stolen in a home invasion awhile back and I've been slowly replacing the entire collection from scratch over the past year. While I would have liked to replace Fallout 3 right away, I decided to put it off until the GOTY edition came out so I could get all the DLC included in the price (and hurrah! it just arrived by UPS last night!).  Anyway, you clearly see by my two messages that I would love for Borderlands to be amazing, but have very deep doubts based on seeing this actual gameplay and what I have been hearing about it most recently. The fact that I have watched a number of trailers and interviews here and elsewhere over the past year and still didn't have a clear idea of what the fuck the actual gameplay or genre was speaks volumes about the game, if you ask me. People usually want their potential audience to know what their product is about and like. I'd like nothing more than to find out in another week that all the people whose opinions I put stock in were having the time of their life with this game and be motivated myself to then pick it up -- but I have high doubts about that happening. I have a very luke-warm feeling about it all and I am, as mentioned, seriously baffled how these two camps -- who have presumably consumed about the same content over time regarding this pending game -- can vary from "this looks boring and I'm confused; don't have much hope for this one" to "oh my god, I'm jizzing my pants right now and am pre-ordering a dozen copies". "
 A likely story, Branthog. I'll be watching your Achievements for the rest of the year & I'll be expecting progress, otherwise take your sharpie & write your name on the Wall of Shame!  I've read every comment in this thread. It's got heavy, heavy mixed reactions.  Pretty much the same kind of reaction that happened with Too Human last year.  I wonder if the trend for this game will be the same for Borderlands. That would be too bad as the hype was pretty good.  Too Human had some massive hype behind it too. I still remember the kids on Gamespot using Too Human graphic sigs on the message boards...at least up until the game was released & then they disappeared...haha. "
I thought LittleBigPlanet was GOTY
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@kagekage said:

" @Lind_L_Taylor said:

" @Branthog said:
" @Lind_L_Taylor said:
" @Branthog said:

" I am really baffled by those of you saying "OMG GOTY! PRE-ORDER! LAUNCH DAY BUY!". Are we watching the same thing or do you know a lot more about this game than everyone else? I mean, the vibe I got from it was that it looked like a developer's first time off the bench, producing a rather generic "me too" game. I didn't see much variety and it looked uninspired. I don't hear much story, so far and I'm really tired of "kill random wildlife with different names like EVIL wolf and fantasy-named-goat-creature to level up!".   It'd be great if I find that I'm wrong, but seeing this game in action has taken it so far off of my "that looks like something I might buy" radar that it may as well be in another galaxy. I'm not saying it is crap or that it will suck, but that the impression it gave me is that I should expect to find this for $20 in the bin next to Wii Bass Fishing Expedition at the local Shop n' Save. "

You certainly do talk a lot of shit. I checked out your Achievements & I see that you have played Alone in the Dark as well as Kengo: Legends of the Nine. In fact, you have played a TON of shitty games!!  Also, I see that you have played a FEW AAA games & from the look of it you BARELY played any of them. Do you rent games only?  I mean Christ, look at Fallout 3...that was GOTY and you scored a D on it?!?!  Or was it Not-Applicable? I say you need to stop whining & go play some games for a change as your claim about being "the expert of fine game playing" doesn't match the reality of your Achievement list.   Judging from your Achievement List, if Borderlands is a shitty game, then it's right up your alley!
 
Not that I feel the need to justify gaming habits to someone all disproportionately butt-hurt over someone's comments on a game, but:
 
Advocating for a game by nit-picking a gamer's habits (as tracked by 360 achievements, no less!) is pretty idiotic non-sense. However, since you asked -- no, I haven't played many of those games that you're talking about. They show up because the discs were at one time put into the console to verify that they worked after being purchased (note the lack of any points). And since that leads to your other question, no I don't rent games and never have. I only buy games. And I buy a lot of them (because though I have little time for gaming and sometimes go for months without playing -- at least on a console -- I like to collect them as well as hardware).And you're right - I haven't finished Fallout 3 yet. As my entire collection of games and consoles (and a lot of other stuff) was stolen in a home invasion awhile back and I've been slowly replacing the entire collection from scratch over the past year. While I would have liked to replace Fallout 3 right away, I decided to put it off until the GOTY edition came out so I could get all the DLC included in the price (and hurrah! it just arrived by UPS last night!).  Anyway, you clearly see by my two messages that I would love for Borderlands to be amazing, but have very deep doubts based on seeing this actual gameplay and what I have been hearing about it most recently. The fact that I have watched a number of trailers and interviews here and elsewhere over the past year and still didn't have a clear idea of what the fuck the actual gameplay or genre was speaks volumes about the game, if you ask me. People usually want their potential audience to know what their product is about and like. I'd like nothing more than to find out in another week that all the people whose opinions I put stock in were having the time of their life with this game and be motivated myself to then pick it up -- but I have high doubts about that happening. I have a very luke-warm feeling about it all and I am, as mentioned, seriously baffled how these two camps -- who have presumably consumed about the same content over time regarding this pending game -- can vary from "this looks boring and I'm confused; don't have much hope for this one" to "oh my god, I'm jizzing my pants right now and am pre-ordering a dozen copies". "
 A likely story, Branthog. I'll be watching your Achievements for the rest of the year & I'll be expecting progress, otherwise take your sharpie & write your name on the Wall of Shame!  I've read every comment in this thread. It's got heavy, heavy mixed reactions.  Pretty much the same kind of reaction that happened with Too Human last year.  I wonder if the trend for this game will be the same for Borderlands. That would be too bad as the hype was pretty good.  Too Human had some massive hype behind it too. I still remember the kids on Gamespot using Too Human graphic sigs on the message boards...at least up until the game was released & then they disappeared...haha. "
I thought LittleBigPlanet was GOTY "
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_3#Awards
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meh. Maybe I'll rent it some day. 

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the commercial makes the game look so badass.  But this quicklook does the exact opposite for me :/

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Ummmmm....SO GLAD I PRE-ORDERED!
 
Been stoked for this game since day one, and to finally see it get played in a larger chunk then a couple minutes is nice.  Confirms that I am going to love this game.  Just need the 26th to roll around to cruise with my homies and get some epic phat loots!

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@Lind_L_Taylor said:
"Looks like the PC crowd is really stoked. I can see why since it seems to be waayyy cheaper than the 360/PS3 version.  I wish the console game prices would drop.  We're in a Recession, dammit. "

Hasnt that ended?
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This game looks like the perfect blend of action and RPG that I really wanted Too Human to be. I've been cautiously watching this game, but this Quick Look has made this game a guaranteed buy for me. Next to Brutal Legend, this will probably be the sleeper hit of the year.

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@VisariLoyalist: 
Real life doesnt look good anymore after uncharted 2
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Whats really promising about this quick look is the fact that they were all playing it together and apparently having a good time doing it. Dueling for a gun?!?!?!?! Thats a way to solve differences

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Awesome.
The rocket launcher "Leviathan" is named after L3VIATH4N from the GBX forums.  That's community support for you.

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for some reason, im wishing they could incorporate some kind of PIP screen so we can see them play while doing quick looks and such

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ME WANT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *plz*

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Sort of like L4D  with mole rats instead of zombies. Ostensibly open world but really on rails. Cell shading this game looks like a horrible mistake. No where near as bright and clean as Crackdown. Why such cartoonish heavy outlines? Very distracting. Kinda Gameboy Advance on a big screen. Frame rate looks solid, though.
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WOW! This looks really good! Must play :-) Thanks for the quick look guys.

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does this game have random enviroments? either way itll be awesome

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i think this looks pretty great. i'm glad i have it preordered.

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Damnit, is it Tuesday yet?!?!

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I want to like Borderlands and everything I've seen so far is good but gotta admit, what I saw here, seemed pretty boring.

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People that think gameplay is boring..
I thought the same about games like Diablo and World of warcraft.. but once you play it..
You're hooked..TRUST ME !
This game looks epic..
Borderlands all the way !

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@Branthog said:
" @Lind_L_Taylor said:
  I've read every comment in this thread. It's got heavy, heavy mixed reactions.  Pretty much the same kind of reaction that happened with Too Human last year.  I wonder if the trend for this game will be the same for Borderlands. That would be too bad as the hype was pretty good.  Too Human had some massive hype behind it too. I still remember the kids on Gamespot using Too Human graphic sigs on the message boards...at least up until the game was released & then they disappeared...haha. "
If you've read many of my posts over the month's you'd be well aware of my unfortunate situation. Not only did they take all of my consoles, games, and accessories, but one of my three $3,000 Apple Cinema Displays, GPS, digital camera, medication, eye glasses, wallet, identification, java badge for the office, the keys and lojack fob for my mustang, and a bunch of other stuff. I caught them in the process of stealing one of my many laptops tha has a damaged screen and is used as a headless VPN server or else they'd have probably escaped with a whole lot more.  All totaled they got around $25,000 in their haul. Fortunately, I have renter's insurance so the stuff I have receipts for should be covered (eventually) though that doesn't help with certain titles that are difficult to find now. *sigh* -- I actually was so frustrated with the violation that I was about to give up gaming on consoles at all because it was going to be such a challenge to start over from scratch.
 
Anyway, I agree with the heavy mixed reactions about this game and your comparison to Too Human. When I was replying to your original message, I was actually thinking the strong opposite reactions from people reminded me of Haze -- and that is what I had in my head when I was describing how I felt what I was seeing was something I'd find i the bargain bin next to Wii Bass Fishing. Your more succint comparison to Too Human is better, though, because that is a game where everyone had high expectations and in the end at least half of people truly despise it and half absolutely love it. I have not played it, but my reaction to Too Human pre-release was pretty similar to my reaction to Borderlands, here. I, like many, had a very strong " I don't get it - it looks okay, but a little generic and uninspired and uninteresting" feeling. The exuberant expectations leading up to launch of some people truly astounded me and I felt there was something they were getting from all of the information that I was not.
 
I wonder how much of these reactions (especially the positive ones) are due to what people hope the game is and what it seems to aspire to be versus reactions based on the actual game and content itself. Meaning, how much of it is "I really want this game to be awesome, therefore it all stokes my fires".
 
Personally, I have absolutely no positive expectations for Borderlands and fear it really will be a big let-down for most people. If it really lives up to the hype, I'll be more than eager to hand over my cash and give it a go once we've seen what it's really truly all about. And if I have a good time, I'll probably end up having a couple copies of it (one for 360 and one for PC). "
 
Yeah that sucks about your stuff.  I'm always afraid that will happen to me. I have renter's insurance as well, but after last year when Hurricane Ike dropped the ceiling in my bedroom, I found out how stingy the insurance companies are about giving you money. They had this "depreciation" thing on the policy that I didn't know about so I only got about 1/3rd of the amount of money I had claimed.  Fortunately, I was there when the leak came in & I was able to pull out the Xbox, all the games, & my expensive stereo equipment as displayed in my mini-bio. Although if I were to lose it all today, I'm sure State Farm would tell me it isn't worth all that much. Thank you, State Farm!
 
I do like the controversy surrounding Borderlands, which might lead me to buy it to see if I'm one of those people that appreciate it despite any quality issues.  Last year, I just said "fuck it" & bought Too Human anyway, I think for $60 (I may have had some gift cards or something to help pay it).  It was alright to play, but after a month or so I found myself yelling at my TV in disgust for dying all the time. What really pissed me off is seeing an Achievement pop-up for dying 100 or 200 times. It was telling me that the game developers knew people were gonna suck at this....so you have to wonder: why did they put in the Unstoppable Achievements?!  Maybe it was trying to be like Demon's Souls.
 
The good news is that I don't see the frustration happening with Borderlands.  It appears to be a fun & relaxing rpg/shooter/satire thing.

@Branthog said:

" @kagekage said:

I thought LittleBigPlanet was GOTY "
I'm actually ignorant of the process used to determine GOTY and exactly what it encompasses, because it seems numerous games are labeled as GOTY. Is there a GOTY per platform? Or per genre? Or can anyone call their game GOTY? I was wondering this same thing earlier (becuase I bought a copy of LBP GOTY edition yesterday with Amazon's 3-for-2 sale to replace my stolen copy, along with Prototype and Infamous).
 
@Lind_L_Taylor said:
" Just checked Amazon's best seller list, Borderlands has moved UP in the pre-order purchases.  Looks like it's gonna get good sales regardless of what anyone here thinks. "
I'm not sure how those numbers are derived, precisely (do only recent pre-orders count toward a title or all pre-orders, ever?), but I agree it looks like they're going to do well, financially. Whether a lot of those buying the game will look back upon the game positively a few days, weeks, or months down the line remains to be seen. Assassin's Creed had very high sales, yet probably more than half of those who played it look back on it and think "wow, that was painfully repetitive and boring" -- including myself, who couldn't even force myself to finish the game.  More interesting, to me, is that Dragon Age is much further down the list than Borderlands (behind even NBA 2K10 and FIFA Soccer 2K10). Of course, so is Forza 3.  I guess we'll start to get some answers in another four days. :) "
Yeah, I'm interested to see how it turns out.  Assassin's Creed had huge hype & stellar reviews...then a few months later all this negativity popped up about the game.  I'm interested in Dragon Age as well.  I loved NWN1/2 so with Bioware behind it, I'm counting on it to be a great RPG that I'll be spending several months on.
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God damn european release date. I have to wait until October 23rd to play this game

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give me my wave, jackass

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Borderlands looks awesome.
 
Can anyone tell me how I can download these vids???

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can anyone tell me how to download this vid?

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OMG I CANNOT WAIT FOR THIS GAMe...the art style looks sooo badass.

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Game looks like it will be a ton o' fun.

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@MiamiRedHawks said:
"This game looks like it would be great to play with some friends online. Does it have local multiplayer as well? "

Yes, it has 2-player split-screen.
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I just realized that I envisioned a game pretty much exactly like this when I was 12, I wanted a game like this...now I'm not so sure I'm that into it.

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I'll pass. rather play Uncharted 2.  Kinda reminds me of Fallout a little. 

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the game looks to be quite fun! i just hope it is as fun playing alone as it would be with friends in co-op!

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I wish these game review sites would stop ass kissing Borderlands (particularly giant bomb). I feel like I'm being forced to like this new IP.    
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@Starsimon:  That is HYSTERICAL. You are HYSTERICAL.
Sites like Giant Bomb are doing all of this coverage because THEY are interested in the game. If you don't want it, than don't watch it!
And sign me up as interested in the game. Who's gonna get that game on Steam? Let's co-op!
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I don't really like how you have to look down and point at every individual drop, then hit the button to pick it up. With this being such a loot heavy game, that's going to get a bit tedious. I wish it would just automatically pick up ammo when you walk over it, and only make you aim and hit a button to pick up weapons.

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the alien cannon thing description says omg in binary that
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What platform is this Quick Look on?

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@Wraithken said:
" What platform is this Quick Look on? "
360 probably, load times seemed too long for PC and there are some bad frame drops.
 
I have a feeling this game is going to run badly on PS3.  I hope I'm wrong but Unreal engine 3 games usually favor 360 and here it looks like frames hit the teens regularly.
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Can't wait for the game!

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@Starsimon: Have you played borderlands yet? People may be talking good things about it because its actually fun to play. 
 
This game just looks awesome. One of my favorite games I played at PAX for sure.
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This looks really good.  I think I might check it out.

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@Tatimus said:
" Looks boring? This looks like diablo 2 without the ability variety but much more awesome. My PEINS is pretty much rock hard after watching this video. Sure, it's probably pretty boring singleplayer but so was Diablo. The guy who says you cant upgrade your gun... Sure you can, you just have to loot a better one, and there are probably some class mod chips that improve your weapon proficiency. Can't wait to play this with my buddies. "
As a long-time Diablo fan I disagree. It's got the OCD loot grinding sure, but the action has a long way to go. Diablo 2 had a fairly large variety of enemies and kept you fighting hordes of enemies at a time. This game seems to keep you fighting the same enemies and even on max players the groups of enemies are fairly small but with large health.
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I hope the single player campaign. can be as hot as the co op experience...   *finger crossed*

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I dunno how you dudes can complain about lack of variety, enemies, and the like when all you have seen from this vid is one area from the game. ONE AREA, thats it...

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 @Wraithken said:

" What platform is this Quick Look on? "

 
Guess this is the 360 version. Button prompts and Jeff mentioning achievements suggests so.